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Top IRS official will invoke Fifth Amendment
LA TIMES ^ | May 21, 2013 | By Richard Simon and Joseph Tanfani

Posted on 05/21/2013 12:40:53 PM PDT by 11th Commandment

Edited on 05/21/2013 12:48:43 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.

Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.

Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.

DOCUMENT: The Inspector General’s report on the IRS

“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” said a letter by Taylor to committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa, R-Calif. The letter, sent Monday, was obtained Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: irs; loislerner; loislernerirsscandal; official; pleadfifthirsscandal; pleadthefifth; teaparty
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Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening
1 posted on 05/21/2013 12:40:53 PM PDT by 11th Commandment
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To: 11th Commandment

Why bother? It’s not like they can remember anything.


2 posted on 05/21/2013 12:41:44 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: bgill

Someone taking the 5th and still has a job!!


3 posted on 05/21/2013 12:42:23 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: 11th Commandment

If it will get to the White hut , immunity works for me.


4 posted on 05/21/2013 12:42:41 PM PDT by DCmarcher-976453
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To: 11th Commandment

She just opened Pandora’s Box.


5 posted on 05/21/2013 12:42:41 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: 11th Commandment

She’s guilty.

In fact, she’s probably committed criminal acts at the behest of her WH orders.

If this is the tip of the berg, the base must be the size of Mt. Everest.

Left, right or Indie, this can’t stand. This is a rogue government at this point accountable to no one and obeying no laws.


7 posted on 05/21/2013 12:44:08 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: 11th Commandment

Drag her in front of the panel, and the cameras, *anyway*. Make it a campaign event! Carefully craft the questions so that every “I refuse to answer” becomes an Obamao administration mea culpa.

Crooked b!tch.


8 posted on 05/21/2013 12:44:30 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: 11th Commandment
Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening ...

...on the grounds that by giving honest answers she might tend to incriminate herself. That is to say, she might implicate herself as having been involved in criminal activity.

9 posted on 05/21/2013 12:44:35 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: 11th Commandment

No accountability. AS USUAL.


10 posted on 05/21/2013 12:44:39 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: 11th Commandment

Enhanced interrogation techniques are called for.


11 posted on 05/21/2013 12:44:46 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: bgill

Using the same rationale used by this administration,THAT’S ALL WE NEED TO KNOW.


12 posted on 05/21/2013 12:44:54 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: 11th Commandment

If she takes the 5th, she obviouly knew her actions were criminal.


13 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:03 PM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer
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To: 11th Commandment
Invoking the 5th in a city that won't honor the 2nd.

Pathetic...

14 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:08 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: reagandemocrat
She just opened Pandora’s Box.

Yup. She knows she is in deep kimchee, and is clamming up.

However, this might be a good thing. The FBI has her in their sights, and can offer her immunity in exchange for testimony about what she really knows.

15 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:11 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: US Navy Vet

Right on, Bro! Thought I’d get in before somebody lectures you about civility.


16 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:13 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: 11th Commandment

Better than exec privilege. Popcorn time either way. The charade is over. We been had and they been caught.


17 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:21 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: 11th Commandment

I’ve been wondering when we’d start hearing the 5th Amendment invoked. And I bet there will be more of it in various investigations as the evidence piles up.


18 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:25 PM PDT by Will88
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To: 11th Commandment

I suspect that getting the most damaging witnesses to clam up is precisely why Holder ordered a criminal investigation


19 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:42 PM PDT by Stingray51
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To: 11th Commandment

Select committee and special counsel long overdue.


20 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:44 PM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: 11th Commandment
Our Lords and Masters are not accountable, nor do they feel they owe anything to us. She will smile with glee as she leaves the hearing, knowing that she will face no consequences whatsoever, and that We The People will simply put up with one more grotesque violation.

all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism

21 posted on 05/21/2013 12:45:58 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: 11th Commandment

WOW! And further down the rabbit hole we go.


22 posted on 05/21/2013 12:46:09 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Drag her in front of the panel, and the cameras, *anyway*.......”

Yep!


23 posted on 05/21/2013 12:46:14 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: DTogo

Or apparently the first -see ap/fox


24 posted on 05/21/2013 12:46:44 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: 11th Commandment

That’s what happens when you can’t ,...ahem claim executive privilege.


25 posted on 05/21/2013 12:46:46 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: 11th Commandment

Will this affect her current job of administering Obamacare for the IRS or is this just a career enhancer?


26 posted on 05/21/2013 12:47:02 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: 11th Commandment

At least she’s being honest, rather than saying she doesn’t recall. She’s tacitly admiting guilt.


27 posted on 05/21/2013 12:47:05 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 11th Commandment

Subpoena the underlings, offer them immunity to talk and implicate their bosses and take it as high up the food chain as you can (hopefully, Zero will be there in the net, too!).


28 posted on 05/21/2013 12:47:16 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: 11th Commandment

5th amendment invocation says they believe there may have been a crime they committed, which automatically should result in a special prosecutor.


29 posted on 05/21/2013 12:47:19 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: 11th Commandment

Nothing “improper” about fixing an election.
It’s criminal.


30 posted on 05/21/2013 12:47:23 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 11th Commandment

Oh my.


31 posted on 05/21/2013 12:47:34 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Jim Robinson; RedMDer; DJ MacWoW; The Cajun; musicman; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; deoetdoctrinae; ...

Her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd notified Issa!

They’re all guilty.

“You know what” rolls downhill.


32 posted on 05/21/2013 12:47:40 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Should we waterboard her before or after? I say both to make sure her story doesn’t change.


33 posted on 05/21/2013 12:49:08 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Steely Tom
Testifying before Congress is a Civil proceeding.

There is no 5th amendment protection in a civil proceeding.

When someone refuses to answer a question in a civil proceeding, the answer is deemed to be whatever the questioner says it is.

The person is also held to be in contempt.

34 posted on 05/21/2013 12:49:15 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: 11th Commandment

Sounds like she knows she’s already on the Pardon List for January 19, 2017.


35 posted on 05/21/2013 12:49:27 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 11th Commandment

The Obama admin and his Minions can try to destroy the 2nd amend all day. Mount an attack after attack the 1st... but by God, they will stand-up and die for dear leader as they invoke the 5th!!!

Liberals...Selective amendment syndrome.


36 posted on 05/21/2013 12:49:29 PM PDT by Autonomous User (Pain Fades. Chicks Dig Scars. Glory, lasts forever.)
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To: 11th Commandment

Well, 48 hours from “nothing happened” to “I decline to answer on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me.” That’s quite a slide.


37 posted on 05/21/2013 12:49:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 11th Commandment

Isn’t that pretty much an admission that they KNOWINGLY broke the law?


38 posted on 05/21/2013 12:50:22 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Drag her in front of the panel, and the cameras, *anyway*. Make it a campaign event! Carefully craft the questions so that every “I refuse to answer” becomes an Obamao administration mea culpa.
Crooked b!tch.”

Yup, haul her in front of Gowdy et al and make her take the 5th 100 times if you have to. Get her on the record. Make her sweat a lot, threaten her with jail time as a message to her colleagues! Stop being so nice to these people. Screw Ingram and his disgusting ilk! Kick their asses!


39 posted on 05/21/2013 12:50:58 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: 43north

BOTH, Bitch is IRS, DOESN’T DESERVE ANY “Mercy”!


40 posted on 05/21/2013 12:51:04 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: 11th Commandment

There is more than just this going on. Someone somewhere has been turned.

Abolish the IRS!


41 posted on 05/21/2013 12:51:08 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: 11th Commandment
Top IRS official will invoke Fifth Amendment

Guilty as hell and doesn't want to end up in an alley with a bullet in her head for implicating the kenyan usurper.

42 posted on 05/21/2013 12:51:19 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Pray THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA will be delivered from the evil unGODly forces)
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To: 11th Commandment

She might get tossed out soon. It’s embarrassing to Bambi when his stoolies won’t lie for him.


43 posted on 05/21/2013 12:51:19 PM PDT by BAW (We are the Resistance.)
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To: 11th Commandment

Is she sure it’s the 5th Amendment? After all, she admits she isn’t very good at math.


44 posted on 05/21/2013 12:51:39 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: Billthedrill

Next to nothing happened....


45 posted on 05/21/2013 12:51:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: 11th Commandment
Even I know that you don't have to claim the fifth, you just do what Hillary does:

"I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall."

How hard is it?

46 posted on 05/21/2013 12:52:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: 11th Commandment

Well, if she is going to play the game, let’s get it on the nightly news.

My understanding is that you cann’t selectively take the 5th, you have to take it on every question.

Therefore, the very first question should be, “Did you get direct orders from President Obama to use the power and force of your office to go after his political enemies?”

Answer, “I take the 5th.”

Follow up, “So in order to prevent incriminating yourself in a felony, you are taking the 5th.”

Answer, “I take the 5th.”


47 posted on 05/21/2013 12:52:22 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 11th Commandment

Some prominent journalist, if they haven’t already, needs to label this IRS audit/AP wiretap cloud of scandals as “Obama’s War on the First Amendment.”


48 posted on 05/21/2013 12:52:23 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Dan(9698)

bttt


49 posted on 05/21/2013 12:52:35 PM PDT by advertising guy (America is bein killed w/o one bullet bein fired.........from either side)
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To: Steely Tom

ah but conspiracy or acting alone?


50 posted on 05/21/2013 12:52:47 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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