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Senate panel OKs tax-welfare benefits for newly legal immigrants (incl Gramnesty & Flake)
The Washington Times ^ | 5/20/2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 05/21/2013 1:59:59 AM PDT by markomalley

The SenateJudiciary Committee voted Monday to allow illegal immigrants who get legal status to begin collecting tax-welfare payments, as the panel spent a fourth day working through amendments to the massive immigration bill and party-line splits began to emerge.

In one major change, the committee voted 17-1 to make a third drunken-driving conviction a deportable offense for the newly legalized immigrants if at least one of those offenses occurs after they are approved for legal status.

But immigrant-rights groups called that a rollback of due-process rights for the immigrants and said a drunken-driving incident shouldn’t cost someone a chance at citizenship.

“We cannot and will not support hard-line proposals that take away discretion and limit an individual’s ability to pursue the pathway to citizenship,” said Paromita Shah, associate director of the National Lawyers Guild’s National Immigration Project.

Overall, the committee continued to maintain the delicate balance struck by the “Gang of Eight” senators who negotiated the 867-page bill: Quick legal status for illegal immigrants, but delaying citizenship rights until after the administration spends more money on border security, puts in place a new electronic verification system to check workers’ status, and enacts an entry-exit system to check visas at airports and seaports.

In previous days’ action, two Republican members of the Gang of Eight — Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Jeff Flake of Arizona — joined with Democrats to block a series of GOP amendments to stiffen the bill’s security.

But on Monday, the two Republicans sided with their party colleagues on key questions on giving illegal immigrants public benefits.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: flake; immigrantlist; immigration; rino; senate

1 posted on 05/21/2013 1:59:59 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

and we knew this would happen


2 posted on 05/21/2013 2:07:31 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: markomalley

You support Amnesty Liberal GOP....you get socialism for Illegal Aliens

Time to primary Graham...we will have to wait to primary Flake


3 posted on 05/21/2013 2:08:58 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: markomalley

It’s insane to allow anyone to immigrate if they can’t support themselves. If they can’t they should be immediately deported. If they have family here then their families should be responsible for them or they should be deported.


4 posted on 05/21/2013 2:10:27 AM PDT by JMS
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To: JMS

Any American citizen that believes this government (either party) represents our interests is delusional. The drop in our standard of living can be directly attributed to illegal immigration; Obama’s Bolshevism is just the icing on the cake.


5 posted on 05/21/2013 2:26:27 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley

I must have missed the previous story where we eliminated the debt and have a lot of extra cash.


6 posted on 05/21/2013 2:33:41 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (Socialism is slavery)
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To: markomalley

I hate the GOP - what a worthless party.


7 posted on 05/21/2013 2:38:21 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: markomalley

The unemployment rate will grow exponentially.
Sad for teens, seniors, and any other group needing a low level job.
It’s all part of the plan to destroy the American economy.
And the idiot voters still support these socialist bastards they have put in power.


8 posted on 05/21/2013 2:39:08 AM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: 9422WMR

The unemployment rate will grow exponentially.”

You obviously do not understand how this works. If any of them have jobs, they will be counted as newly employed additions to the work force with jobs created by BO causing the rate to go down.

Those that don’t have jobs won’t have any effect on the rate because they were not counted with any group before because they, after all, “officially just got here”.


9 posted on 05/21/2013 2:57:28 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: JMS

And if they’ve had three drunk driving offenses that just happen to have come while they were illegal rather than legal. This whole thing is insane—get them out of this country now!


10 posted on 05/21/2013 3:02:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: GlockThe Vote
I hate the GOP - what a worthless party.

The GOP has become Enemy #2 in the nation.

They vote to gut the military, but they vote yes to Trillions in new handouts for illegals.

How the GOP Learned to Love Defense Cuts


11 posted on 05/21/2013 3:31:27 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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12 posted on 05/21/2013 3:56:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: markomalley

I certainly hope this ends Sen. Rubio’s propaganda ad on AM radio. ...”no federal benefits”...my ass.


13 posted on 05/21/2013 4:01:06 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: markomalley
In previous days’ action, two Republican members of the Gang of Eight — Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Jeff Flake of Arizona — joined with Democrats to block a series of GOP amendments to stiffen the bill’s security.

Hot Mic: Schumer Organizing Immigration Votes with 'Our Republicans'

14 posted on 05/21/2013 4:01:38 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: markomalley

These people are insane.

They are destroying our Country.


15 posted on 05/21/2013 4:10:34 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: GeronL

Cheap labor has to be subsidized somehow. But not to worry, they’ll use the cuts to Social Security to fund it.


16 posted on 05/21/2013 4:53:03 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: markomalley; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”The SenateJudiciary Committee voted Monday to allow illegal immigrants who get legal status to begin collecting tax-welfare payments, as the panel spent a fourth day working through amendments to the massive immigration bill and party-line splits began to emerge.
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In one vote, Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, tried to prevent anyone but citizens and green-card holders from being able to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, which uses the tax code to transfer money to the poor.
But Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, said that would deny the tax credit not only to legalized immigrants but also refugees, asylum-seekers and other legal workers.
And Sen. Mazie K. Hirono, Hawaii Democrat, said denying the tax credit to legalized immigrants would hurt their children, many of whom are U.S. citizens.”

No word from Rubio on this. He did his dirty work.

17 posted on 05/21/2013 4:57:24 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: markomalley


18 posted on 05/21/2013 4:59:58 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: sickoflibs

Pubbies are just as relentless to sell us down the river as the RATs are. Willing accomplices.


19 posted on 05/21/2013 5:21:06 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: markomalley

Tax-welfare benefits?

But ‘conservative’ Rubio’s ‘conservative’ commercial to ‘conservatives’ said that this new immigration bill would NOT reward illegals with benefits.

Poor Marco, the old dogs — McCain, Schumer, Gramnesty — pulled the wool over his eyes, again. Just like they did with the ‘secure the border first’ canard.

[Feel like a used fool, Marco? You should. You got pwned.]


20 posted on 05/21/2013 5:27:52 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: markomalley

This is about driving wages down into the gutter.

The elite bastards that come up with this garbage are bent on destroying this country and turning it into a 3rd world hell hole while they live in their gated communities.

Record unemployment and these fools want to import 10’s of millions more uneducated drains on society and the taxpayer.

Every damned one of them is a liar.


21 posted on 05/21/2013 5:48:10 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: sickoflibs

Rubio was the designated RINO who helps the Democrats get their way. What is the word for the wife who helps her husband stay on drugs or something?


22 posted on 05/21/2013 5:49:05 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: markomalley; l8pilot; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; ...
Linda Graham is worse than a puke.

Everybody in South Carolina that wants to see him reelected, raise your hand.

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23 posted on 05/21/2013 5:54:24 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: upchuck

Graham did really well on gun control but a one trick pony won’t get the job done these days.


24 posted on 05/21/2013 6:21:27 AM PDT by BattleFlag (The right to self defense, one without which none others matter)
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To: markomalley
"In one major change, the committee voted 17-1 to make a third drunken-driving conviction a deportable offense for the newly legalized immigrants if at least one of those offenses occurs after they are approved for legal status. But immigrant-rights groups called that a rollback of due-process rights for the immigrants and said a drunken-driving incident shouldn’t cost someone a chance at citizenship."

Let me get this straight in my mind: MADD and others have been saying for years that we need to strengthen our drunk-driving laws. Yet, Illegal Aliens can have up to 3 before they are deported? How many Illegals do you think actually wind up in court and have to go through the already stringent process? They simply ignore the process or run back to Mexico.

There are stats that show many DUI accidents are caused by immigrants. This is insane.

25 posted on 05/21/2013 6:52:52 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: markomalley
If this thing passes in any form, we are done, finished, as a nation. The very first thing these illegal aliens will do it lawyer up - at tax payer expense - and run to the court saying it is discrimination that they have been denied the full bill of rights since they are now "LEGAL" and the court will overturn every single on of these restriction INCLUDING THE PROHIBILTION ON VOTING. The RAT party knows this, the GOP not so much. The GOP is so naive and continue stumbling over themselves trying to "buy" hispanic votes.

This will go down in the history books as the fall of America - not even Muslim Manchurian candidate Obama and Valjar can do this much damage. Even if I am wrong on the downing of America, it will most certainly signify the death of the Republican party.
26 posted on 05/21/2013 7:04:13 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: markomalley
This is called "Plantation Building"....putting able people on welfare. What are the rules? Billboards should go up along our borders with the rules...it is probably too late as thousands will try to cross for the reward the gang of 8 has given them...regardless that the reward is a sentence of slavery.
27 posted on 05/21/2013 7:09:05 AM PDT by yoe
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To: WinMod70
I certainly hope this ends Sen. Rubio’s propaganda ad on AM radio. ...”no federal benefits”...my ass.

Isn't it obnoxious? I listen to am talk all day and these ads (NOW WITH RYAN) run every 10-12 minutes - it drives me CRAZY.
28 posted on 05/21/2013 7:30:13 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

Don’t know for sure but I’m betting those ads are taxpayer funded.


29 posted on 05/21/2013 7:52:57 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: sickoflibs; markomalley; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; ...

” No word from Rubio on this. He did his dirty work. “

Rubio is as bad as McCain.


30 posted on 05/21/2013 10:00:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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