Skip to comments.Ex-Diplomats Report New Benghazi Whistleblowers with Info Devastating to Clinton and Obama
Posted on 05/21/2013 1:01:08 AM PDT by Pharmboy
More whistleblowers will emerge shortly in the escalating Benghazi scandal, according to two former U.S. diplomats who spoke with PJ Media Monday afternoon.
These whistleblowers, colleagues of the former diplomats, are currently securing legal counsel because they work in areas not fully protected by the Whistleblower law.
According to the diplomats, what these whistleblowers will say will be at least as explosive as what we have already learned about the scandal, including details about what really transpired in Benghazi that are potentially devastating to both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Stevens mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming insurgents with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.
Hillary Clinton still wanted to proceed because, in part, as one of the diplomats said, she wanted to overthrow Gaddafi on the cheap.
This left Stevens in the position of having to clean up the scandalous enterprise when it became clear that the insurgents actually were al-Qaeda indeed, in the view of one of the diplomats, the same group that attacked the consulate and ended up killing Stevens.
snip... likened it to the Mike Nichols film Charlie Wilsons War about a clueless congressman who supplies Stingers to the Afghan guerrillas. Its as if Hillary and the others just watched that movie and said Hey, lets do that! the diplomat said.
He added that he and his colleagues think the leaking of General David Petraeus affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell was timed to silence the former CIA chief on these matters.
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You don’t arm your enemy and then expect them to treat you like a friend. You would think RATS would have figured that out. But noooooooo.
General Petraeus should have known better than to join an administration as criminal in nature as this one.
Treason? You betcha.
Illegal. State Department can't do that, see: Iran Contra.
This might be what the WH is reportedly sitting on that has them “terrified.”
Wait...you mean 0bamaClintonRice lied when they said that Stevens was in Benghazi to “modernize a hospital”?
I find it difficult to believe they would be that stupid. I don’t find it difficult to believe that we were trying to buy the man-portable anti-aircraft missiles the rebels secured when they overthrew the regime. There were thousands of SA-7’s and other versions in country before the uprising ever began.
NATO had full air superiority in Libya and that is a large part of what allowed the rebels (likely worse people than the regime) to win the ground war. I fail to see the need or advantage of giving stinger missiles to the rebels. It would not make sense and the risks are too great. What if they shot down NATO aircraft? OTOH - I can see our State Department and CIA attempting to secure items like this that were all of a sudden all over the place.
Big story if true, but color me skeptical. The State Department does not possess stinger missiles - the Defense Department does. I would be stunned if they could keep that quiet - it only takes one whistleblower.
The part about Africom having assets in place to act quickly is likely in my opinion and the failure to act remains the most surprising part of the Benghazi story to me. My best guess is that someone in the White House decided based on known facts at the time that the political risks of a failed rescue operation outweighed the rewards of rescuing our people. They likely thought nobody had been killed and if we rescued folks the real story would come out that they were paying massive amounts of cash to the rebels we supported to buy the anti-aircraft stuff.
Speaking of that.... wonder what happened to all that cash? A few clever men could create an attack like this and possibly walk away with millions - especially if that is why Stevens was in town. I will take my tinfoil hat off now.
Pretty wild stuff, but it does tie up the loose ends (including HRC’s “concussion”).
You make some excellent points, but I would bet that money and missiles were involved in some way. Stay tuned, and don’t put the tin foil hat in storage just yet.
What is coming and how much will stick?
Potentially, you could have a very long list
The key is that something was so important that a U.S. Ambassador needed to be in Benghazi, while the CIA who was there (1 mile away!) wanted or had no part in the original operation.
Mustard gas?! Known Al Qaeda bad guys being feted by Stevens?
It was so important that the White House didn’t want to call in the Defense Department or even Hostage Rescue when the op went bad.
If you open the gate and walk away so that anyone can take what is inside, then are you supplying weapons to the opportunists?
How many of these weapons are floating around now and in whose hands?
Bad gamble on the part of the administration.
I would not put it past this White House crowd to REALLY "silence" these whistleblowers over Benghazi-gate, if you catch my drift, prior to any sworn Congressional testimony that would cause the power-drunk-yet scared in D.C. great heartache. I pray for the safety of these brave people, if they are out there and have damaging goods on the higher-ups. Get out the popecorn, hope and pray.
and “popcorn” for you non-Catholics...... ;-)
Still haven’t heard testimony of anyone that was in the ground. There were 30+ at the consulate and/or annex. Where are the Repubs on this?
Suppose they wanted them dead, dead men tell no tales. If they survive they might say what they were involved in, that necessitated their rescue. Exploring possibilities here.
Petreaus should have known better than to put himself in a position of compromise.
Five years ago I said what you just said, in essence, on a blog. It wasn’t typical politics - it was a coup.
The people who are behind Valerie Jarrett will kill anyone who gets in their way.
If you haven’t seen the following, take a look. It is interesting to say the least.
Africa Command (AFRICOM) was swirling in scandal before and after Benghazi.
The Obama campaign took money from Al-Queda, Hezbulla or the Muslim Brotherhood in the election. Stevens was there to negociates the payback for that
Paula Broadwell worked in military intelligence and married her husband in a castle in Germany. Her birthday is 11/9, the same day that Petreaus resigned and the reverse of 9/11. Her maiden name is Kranz. Would guess her religion from that though the guess could be wrong. She also worked for the FBI in counterterrorism. Which brings us also to the event planner and her sister that she was apparently worried about Petreaus spending time with who were of Arabic descent. Can read what one wants into all of that and one may or may not be right.
t was so important that the White House didnt want to call in the Defense Department or even Hostage Rescue when the op went bad.
Both Hitlery and the Clown need to be diminished beyond electoral influence or redemption.
Video of Paula Broadwell defending Petraeus on Benghazi.
If this is true I guess Glenn Beck had it right . He said it was an arms exchange and buyback. You know, one of those rightwing conspiracy theory thingys.
Perhaps, but we have theorized worse here in FR, already - such as transferring poison gas to the Syrian rebels to use against Assad and blame on him in a false flag operation (the counter was that WMDs were already in Syria) or transferring weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood for shipment to the Gaza strip to be used to attack Israel, or a botched kidnapping to set up an exchange for the blind Sheik, for instance.
Notice that Broadwell hired an attorney who dealt with the fallout of the Watergate scandal while Kelley hired an attorney who dealt with Lewinsky.
Lewinsky met with Clinton after he met with Arafat, or between meetings or something..
David Petraeus ordered lover Paula Broadwell to stop emailing Jill Kelley David Petraeus reportedly tried to rein in his mistress after federal agents discovered that she had sent a string of harassing emails to a Florida socialite.
From left: Gen David Petraeus, Scott Kelley and his wife, Jill, and Holly Petraeus are shown at the 2010 Gasparilla parade in Tampa, Florida. Photo: Tampa Bay Times
By Jon Swaine, Florida and James Orr in North Carolina7:30PM GMT 12 Nov 2012
Paula Broadwell, the former CIA directors biographer and lover, allegedly sent threatening messages to Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old social liaison for the US military in Tampa, triggering the FBI investigation which led to Gen Petraeuss downfall.
When Mrs Kelley, a family friend of the Petraeuses, learned from the FBI that the anonymous messages were coming from Mrs Broadwell she turned to the former general for help. Gen Petraeus then urged Mrs Broadwell to stop, according to the Washington Post.
Mrs Kelley reportedly went to the FBI in early summer after she began receiving the emails. The relationship between the general and his biographer is believed to have ended in July.
On Sunday Mrs Kelley, who insists that the former CIA director is just a close friend who is like a grandfather to her children, was identified as the woman Mrs Broadwell believed was her rival. Mrs Kelley was silent yesterday after hiring Monica Lewinsky's former crisis manager.
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Neighbours and friends yesterday supported the mother-of-three's strenuous denials that she had engaged in anything other than friendship with the 60-year-old retired general. "She would say he was kind of like a grandpa to her girls," said one, who asked not to be named. Mrs Kelley, whose role as "social liaison" is unpaid, was a frequent guest at Central Command functions. After being presented at one event with a certificate naming her an "honorary ambassador" for allied nations, she began using the title minus the "honorary", according to The Associated Press.
She and her husband hosted Mr Petraeus at a party on their lawn for Tampa's annual Gasparilla parade in 2010. He arrived with a 28-car motorcade. Other guests included Pam Bondi, Florida's Attorney General and a close ally of Mitt Romney, the former presidential candidate. Mrs Kelley is believed to have sparked the inquiry after receiving messages from anonymous email accounts that reportedly warned her to "back off" and to "stay away from my guy".
. She has hired Abbe Lowell, a formidable white-collar attorney who defended John Edwards, the former US presidential candidate, against corruption charges that were dropped earlier this year. Mrs Kelley also recruited Judy Smith, a Washington-based crisis manager and former spokesman for George W. Bush, who represented Ms Lewinsky after her affair with Bill Clinton. Neither Mr Lowell nor Ms Smith returned requests for comment.
Mrs Kelley, who has an identical twin sister, comes from a Lebanese family that moved to Philadelphia in the 1970s. Her parents are believed to have run a restaurant and a vehicle registration company in nearby New Jersey. Her alleged harasser, Mrs Broadwell, has come under intense scrutiny since Gen. Petraeus submitted his resignation on Friday. The former military officer and fitness fanatic, whose husband is also a senior medic called Scott, has not been seen since news of the scandal broke. Details of her apparent relationship continued to emerge yesterday, however, with reports that Gen Petraeus took her with him on a government-funded trip to Paris in July last year. The US defence department did not comment.
Mrs Broadwell has reportedly hired Robert Muse, a prominent Washington criminal attorney who dealt with the fallout of the Watergate scandal, to represent her.
No one was at the Broadwell's family home in an upmarket area of Charlotte, North Carolina, on Monday. Later on in the evening, FBI agents were seen searching the home. It was not clear why. A spokesman for Charlotte Radiology Breast Centre, where Dr Broadwell works as a radiologist, refused to comment on his whereabouts. He "was not seeing patients today," she said.
Well, Her Hindness pushing for arming people who tied in with the Muslim Brotherhood when Weiner’s wife’s (her personal assistant) mother is tied into the Muslim Sisterhood (kinda the MB’s ladies’ auxiliary), and every destabilized regime in North Africa ended up in MB hands...well, that isn’t a surprise, it’s a syndrome.
David Petraeus scandal widens to include Barack Obama's cabinet
The crisis over General David Petraeus's resignation reached Barack Obama's cabinet for the first time as it was claimed the US Attorney General knew about the affair for months but kept it secret until the day of the presidential election.
General David Petraeus shakes hands with Paula Broadwell in this 2011 photograph. Photo: AP
By Raf Sanchez, Washington7:58PM GMT 12 Nov 2012
Eric Holder, the head of the Justice Department, was reportedly told in the late summer that FBI agents were investigating the former CIA director's sexual relationship with Paula Broadwell, his biographer.
The information was kept inside the Justice Department until last week, even though FBI agents had already discovered classified information on Mrs Broadwell's computer.
Allegations that one of the President's closest allies had known about the affair fuelled theories of a cover-up as the scandal expanded to include a second woman and continued to shake Washington.
Mrs Broadwell's father said his daughter was the victim of an attempt to hide "something else entirely", while friends of Gen Petraeus suggested a link between the resignation and his scheduled appearance later this week before a Congressional committee investigating the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Mr Holder was told of the investigation into Gen Petraeus several months ago but it was not until Nov 6 that officials informed James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, who immediately urged Gen Petraeus to resign.
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Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department has officially commented but in private briefings insisted there was no obligation to inform the White House because it had already determined there was no breach of national security.
However, when FBI agents confronted Mrs Broadwell in September they seized a computer they believed she used to contact Gen Petraeus and found secret documents stored on it.
FBI agents were seen searching the Broadwell home in North Carolina on Monday night. It was not clear why. Both Mrs Broadwell and Gen Petraeus admitted their affair during interviews with the FBI but both denied that he was the source of the classified material, according to the Journal.
The nature of the files is unknown but in a speech at the University of Denver in late October, Mrs Broadwell seemed to suggest she was privy to insider knowledge about the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi. The 40-year-old claimed Libyan militia members had been imprisoned in a small CIA building near the consulate, a theory that was not public at the time and has since been denied by the agency.
Any suggestion that the Justice Department kept its investigation in Gen Petraeus's affair secret to prevent it from becoming an election issue could be hugely damaging to the Obama administration.
Peter King, a Republican congressman who sits on the House intelligence committee, described the situation as a "crisis of major proportions" and the FBI had been "derelict in its duty" by not immediately informing the White House.
"Once the FBI realised that it was investigating the director of the CIA or the CIA director had come within its focus or its scope, I believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president," Mr King told MSNBC. "Not to protect David Petraeus, but to protect the president."
Paul Kranz, Mrs Broadwell's father, suggested that his daughter was being targeted as part as part of a broader cover-up.
"This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out," he told the New York Daily News outside the family home in North Dakota.
A friend of Gen Petraeus questioned the "very suspicious" timing of the resignation, less than a week before the Benghazi hearings. "A lot of very senior people in the administration did not want him to give that evidence," the friend said.
Senator Dianne Feinstein, the Democrat chair of the Senate intelligence committee said there was "absolutely not" any link between the two and that the President had "no choice" but to accept Gen Petraeus's resignation after it was offered on Thursday. Mr Obama will be forced to answer questions about the affair during a press conference at the White House on Wednesday, his first since the election.
Gen Petraeus has not been seen since stepping down on Friday but told friends Mrs Broadwell was his only mistress and that his wife Holly was "furious" at his infidelity after 38 years of marriage.
"He had a huge job and he felt he was doing great work and that is all gone now," Steven Boylan, a former Army Colonel and ex-Petraeus spokesman, told ABC News.
Meanwhile, the CIA and Congress remained locked in a standoff over whether Gen Petraeus would appear before the House and Senate intelligence committees to testify on his former agency's role in the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi.
Immediately after his resignation on Friday, the CIA announced he would no longer attend the hearing and that Michael Morell, the agency's acting director, would be sent instead.
Mr King has called the former general "an absolutely essential witness" and demanded that he still appear, while other Republicans last week raised the possibility of issuing a subpoena to force him to testify.
The whole buyback idea could be complete BS to try to assign a noble motive to what they were doing.
Just like Fast and Furious was a buyback, they were just giving the arms to narco-terrorists.
In general, this is the way liberals think, and specifically, this is Obama's belief. liberal foreign policy can be likened to Nicholas Berg, who thought his good intentions toward the enemy and his affinity for their cause would shield him from harm.
We all know what happened to him.
or the guy who went to live with the grizzlies
Do you believe Obama and Hillary went into Libya on trumped up bs to oust Quadaffi? It was illegal,first of all,We were using The jihadists to oust the dictator,who flew the NATO missions to prevent Quadaffi from attacking the Alqueda terrorists in Benghazi?Americans,we then went in with Stevens and VIA operatives to try and get these weapons back and the jihadists turned on us. Sounds perfectly plausible to me with the Muslim sympathizers we have running this train wreck,just think of the reaction if this had become public before the election.
Hillary is now a private citizen,if she was a republican the press would be camped on her front doorstep 24/7 hounding her to get anewers. Do you think all these reports of snooping on reporters has anything to do with information like this? I do
Al Qaeda with Stingers is a sobering thought. Thanks, low-info voters!
transferring the weapons to Syrian rebels that is.
“What is coming and how much will stick?”
In the end the most egregious crimes will simply be downplayed as “white people’s complaints about Obama” instead of treated as the serious matters that they are. “Obama the Myth” has become much more important than “Obama the incompetent affirmative-action puppet installed to advance the Bolshevik agenda”. He believed his own hype until he was “corrected” on his “gay marriage” stance; the handlers pulled him aside and reminded him that he was simply a token, and better obey (which he did).
remember that it is State, not DOD, that must approve all exports of any item on the ITAR list...which means they can approve direct transfers of these items into Libya and distribute them...through shell companies just like CIA must do (if they do it with the correct paperwork)
DOD, CIA, anyone other than State must get State’s approval...
Former diplomats, hmmm....one of whom served in Iraq in 2004....hmmm.. with Petraeus?....hmmm....
Have been saying he got set up. Notice that she walked away not just unscathed but with a proud,”I did it”, attitude.
It’s why females make good spies.
And thanks to John "there is nothing to fear" McCain.
As a Christian, I am not supposed to hate. This is as hard for me as anything that has come at me - not to hate that man. Patriots knew in our gut, that Obama was very bad news for our country.
“.....was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming insurgents with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.”
Whoaaa! If this is true then it kinda explains the rumor that the CIA is upset for taking it on the chin. They were against the missiles being given in the first place, they’re over ruled, then their explanation of what happened is altered, and they’re blamed.
My only question...in fact many are asking...General Petreaus...have you no courage to stand up and tell the truth? Why are you silent? Why are you in your silence supporting the people who betrayed you?
If true, what is being revealed here could complete the circle-it could give us the answer to the question as to why, up until now not satisfactorily answered, there never was any thought given to rescuing those in danger after the ambassador was murdered.
So, we would then have at least two dead Americans who died in the name of protecting dear leader’s election chances.
Extra-legal activity? Check.
Treason. Provable treason. Hillary and Obama.
Of course but they had to get rid of Quadaffi first