Skip to comments.FOX CABLE NEWS IS REPORTING 24 3RD GRADERS HAVE PERISHED IN OKLAHOMA.
Posted on 05/20/2013 4:54:37 PM PDT by stockpirate
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Oh I understand what you mean. We have 9 old tall pine trees lining the driveway along the side of the house. They are line trees so the town told us they do not want to cut them down. (probably a tree hugger). They probably a good 100 years old. Nobody wants to lose their home but at least with a hurricane you get 3 weeks notice to get away to save your life whereas with a tornado you have seconds to only minutes to get away.
Regarding property damage, there’s no difference and in fact you’re less likely to get hit by a tornado than a hurricane but I my comment was referring to saving one’s life.
I sure do hope all is better for you now.
Some good news on a bad day.
Choked me up... the dog was all she had left, and she thought it was gone.
Miracles do happen...sometimes.
To all the doubters out there: MIRACLES DO HAPPEN!!!
Schools are regrettably not the fortresses of safety many would like to believe.
Condolences and prayers to Oklahoma.
Certainly there are plenty of options for individuals. My post was with respect to what is possible for commercial and community shelters.
And it was based on what the commercial construction companies had advised to folks around here.
We have a basement bedroom which has a loft next to the bed.
The kids are able to sleep and play on top of the loft, and if needed we can all sit under the loft for protection from the debris as well as a reinforced area.
So we are better off than many in our town, and certainly better off than the first ten years when we lived in a trailer.
Oh I agree. It sounds like building basements in that area would be cost prohibitive.
If I lived in tornado alley, even if I had a basement, I’d still want a crush proof vault in it...with some provisions.
Sure you can. Better than being crushed by debris or drowning in the runoff. I lived in tornado alley and I knew what to do almost before I could walk.
Pretending to hide inside a school building is not "going to ground".
If it's moving to your left, run 90 degrees to your right and look for a low spot. If it's moving to your right, run 90 degrees to your left and look for a low spot. If it appears to not be moving either left or right, pick one direction 90 degrees from the direction you are facing and look for a low spot. Every child in tornado alley probably already knows this, or should - presuming they are not ordered into a corner of a building built by the lowest bidder by an authority figure.
Exactly, and the building they were ordered to stay in by authority figures became a weapon of mass destruction.
Sure you can, if you're not ordered to stay where you are by government authority figures.
A lot of these kids would have been a lot better off in the open and on the ground in a low spot.
It’s better than sending children running out into the streets, where 100% would be killed.
Running with your head turned like that would generate a big pull through your fascia and mess with gait, proprioception, the vestibular system, etc. Is 45 degrees the practical limit for that, besides just keeping your eye on things?
Out there, in some of those state, they have a county dirt road matrix that surrounds the sections (square miles) so you could zig zag.
I know that's the big limit for applying the maneuvering board to land, but tornados usually don't run parallel to the roads either where you take off at a right angle. I just wanted to show how you'd solve it geometrically.
Not necessarily, Mr. Authority Figure.
Yes it is. Simple fact. You may not survive an F5 inside a building, a basement, or even a bunker, but you100% won’t survive it if you are outside above ground. What exactly do you think a 3rd grader would do if you told them there was a tornado and that they should run away?
Think of tornadoes like artillery fire. You don’t survive in the open.
Of course, I remember that, too, from grade school. Still, I believe any of those kids didnt stand a chance. I imagine a top F-5 tornado is impossible to run from. Though I wonder about the kids they sent to a nearby church. How much advance time did they have? Though they might have had time to run, the school is still a safer place to to take cover.
If I had known about them years ago (did they even exist years ago?) I would already have one. Being older and retired, It’ll take a while to get the bucks.
You dont have to run far. Usually behind a cheerleader. They make for good cushions.