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FOX CABLE NEWS IS REPORTING 24 3RD GRADERS HAVE PERISHED IN OKLAHOMA.
FOX NEWS ^ | 5/20/2013 | Fox News

Posted on 05/20/2013 4:54:37 PM PDT by stockpirate

NO LINK ON THEIR WEBSITE YET,


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 3rdgraders; deathtoll; moore; notbreakingnews; oklahoma; storm; vanity
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To: Vermont Lt

Bury your head? =)


461 posted on 05/21/2013 8:11:38 PM PDT by Styria
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To: elkfersupper

You have got to be kidding. You don’t run from a twister almost two miles wide.


462 posted on 05/21/2013 10:21:52 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: SampleMan
Yes it is. Simple fact. You may not survive an F5 inside a building, a basement, or even a bunker

Exactly. That is why every kid raised in tornado country was and should be taught to get flat in a low spot or a culvert and stay there until it's over. That's what I was taught.

Had my elementary school teacher told me to cower in the corner of a government building built by the lowest bidder, I would have taken my chances on the open prairie.

463 posted on 05/22/2013 3:01:27 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: InvisibleChurch
the school is still a safer place to to take cover.

A ditch is a safer place to take cover.

464 posted on 05/22/2013 3:03:16 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: RobbyS
You have got to be kidding.

No, I have survived several of them by getting flat in a low spot away from potential flying debris.

The last place I would want to be would be a government building constructed by the lowest bidder.

465 posted on 05/22/2013 3:08:16 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

whata bout a basement in a school?


466 posted on 05/22/2013 3:13:20 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: InvisibleChurch
whata bout a basement in a school?

Still a government building built by the lowest bidder.

A lot of these kids drowned. What better place to do that than in a basement?

467 posted on 05/22/2013 3:22:38 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

http://www.ktul.com/story/22392743/update-10-children-killed-in-moore-tornado

...Five of the children’s cause of death was listed as “mechanical asphyxia.” The Medical Examiner’s office noted that mechanical asphyxia can refer to drowning, but in this case all the deaths were due to suffocation...


468 posted on 05/22/2013 3:26:53 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: elkfersupper

a ditch? i understand the idea of a ditch is that the tornado “hops” over it, but still, I think under the circumstances there was no good option


469 posted on 05/22/2013 3:28:52 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: InvisibleChurch
I think under the circumstances there was no good option

Well, then you need to move you and yours to tornado country. It then becomes self-explanatory.

470 posted on 05/22/2013 3:39:16 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: jjotto
Okay, buddy or lady or whatever you are, but I can still say that if I were a 3rd-grader with free will (which I once was and does not exist anymore), I would have taken my chances in the open.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

471 posted on 05/22/2013 3:44:22 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
Okay, buddy or lady or whatever you are, but I can still say that if I were a 3rd-grader with free will (which I once was and does not exist anymore), I would have taken my chances in the open.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

So you are telling us that you’ve rode out EF5 tornados out in the open? Yea, sure that’s the ticket.

472 posted on 05/22/2013 4:22:37 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: elkfersupper

i live in indiana . what I’m saying is that THIS particular tornado, an F5, wasn’t going to leave many survivors . I don’t think the kids running at 90deg angles or lying in a ditch were going to survive this tornado. If you do, well, fine.


473 posted on 05/22/2013 4:53:49 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: elkfersupper
That is why every kid raised in tornado country was and should be taught to get flat in a low spot or a culvert and stay there until it's over. That's what I was taught.

You were taught wrong. Laying flat on the ground is only what you do if there is absolutely no other option. Anyone laying flat on the ground during that Oklahoma twister would just be dead.

Had my elementary school teacher told me to cower in the corner of a government building built by the lowest bidder, I would have taken my chances on the open prairie.

First, those kids were miles from open prairie, second if you are out on the open prairie and get hit by an F5, you're dead.

I don't think you have any inkling of what 250mph winds do to people and things. I've seen people tossed like rag dolls by 100mph winds.

474 posted on 05/22/2013 5:27:49 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: elkfersupper

Well, I will be heading for my local bank which has a vault.


475 posted on 05/22/2013 8:19:08 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
Well, I will be heading for my local bank which has a vault.

1) They won't let you in there.

2)They won't let you in the vault.

476 posted on 05/23/2013 2:46:08 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: MD Expat in PA
So you are telling us that you’ve rode out EF5 tornados out in the open? Yea, sure that’s the ticket.

Well, I have an 85-year-old uncle who was with me.

If you want 3rd-party confirmation, I guess I could buy him a computer, guide him through the signup process, explain the protocols to him and let him do that.

477 posted on 05/23/2013 2:52:35 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: SampleMan
You were taught wrong.

Do not speak to me about things of which you have no knowledge.

I'm sitting outside Moore, OK with a 5th wheel in tow, which I intend to deliver to my cousin, who lost everything but the slab on his house.

I'm doing this because his and his family' s recovery from this will take months if not years and housing will be in short supply.

If not for the people with select-fire weapons and military tanks preventing my progress, I would already be there.

I am 61 years old and have lived in "tornado alley" all my life. I'm just relating the facts. You can like them and agree with them or not. Does not matter to me.

Fact remains that those people survived by doing exactly what I described.

They're still missing an 18 year old, but she is smart enough to have survived and will be fine.

478 posted on 05/23/2013 3:21:21 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
Do not speak to me about things of which you have no knowledge.

Of destructive force, effects on people in the open, and tornadoes, I have plenty of knowledge.

Physics are a fact, your age and location don't mean much. I find that people that are wrong at 30 are generally wrong at 60 too. I've had a lot of people insist that they are safer getting thrown clear of an accident than being belted in too. At a certain point you just let people do what they want, as long as they aren't forcing their silliness on others.

So you hold onto the grass, and I'll get in the basement.

479 posted on 05/23/2013 4:01:24 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan
At a certain point you just let people do what they want, as long as they aren't forcing their silliness on others

Agreed.

So the authority figures at that school did not force their silliness on elementary school kids.

480 posted on 05/23/2013 4:20:45 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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