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Severe Weather Outbreak, Day 2 (OK TX KS MO MI for starters) - Moore, OK devastation

Posted on 05/20/2013 12:46:11 PM PDT by dirtboy

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To: dirtboy

Storm related fatality in Springdale, AR.

Debris hit a vehicle, killing a 19 year old male.


701 posted on 05/20/2013 8:19:27 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: greeneyes
I am sure that the first responders are just as impatient and frustrated as we are.

Agreed - sadly - just my guess - and again, sadly - they will likely be finding bodies from those houses that were wiped slick down to the foundation for a few days...a ways away...and not always in one piece....prayers.
702 posted on 05/20/2013 8:23:30 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: greeneyes

There was one who died in Texas last week whose body was on the street and the intestines were strung out on the street. I think I have that right. Nothing could have saved that person.


703 posted on 05/20/2013 8:25:37 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: DJlaysitup

Well, that does happen sometimes. They will likely be reprimanded if they do. They have to remember that they can’t help anyone if they fall victim to falling debris too.


704 posted on 05/20/2013 8:26:50 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella
there is a protocol to be followed before you can set foot on Johnny's property. Without the protocol, you are dead. It's a pass “item” instead of pass “word”.

Heh....now that's original. I'll make sure to find out what the proper protocol is before approaching La Casa JRandom :-)

705 posted on 05/20/2013 8:28:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TomGuy

The NC Baptist Men have offered assistance, and have responders on alert and ready to go to Oklahoma.


706 posted on 05/20/2013 8:30:16 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Marcella

That’s very true. Sadly from the pancake description, That’s probably going to be true of the children buried under this rubble.

Ok the wind started picking up here, and now we have rain, thunder and lightning, so it’s our turn for what remains. I am going to shut down in a minute and head for the basement bedroom for tonight.

OOPs. Just lost the satellite feed. If the lightning gets to close I’ll be unplugging the computer. In case I don’t post any more tonight.


707 posted on 05/20/2013 8:30:55 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Well, that does happen sometimes. They will likely be reprimanded if they do. They have to remember that they can’t help anyone if they fall victim to falling debris too.

I know - and you are right...but it would be frustrating.
708 posted on 05/20/2013 8:32:22 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: dirtboy

Looking at that little boy pulled from the rubble, it’s amazing any of those kids survived.


709 posted on 05/20/2013 8:33:53 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: greeneyes

I feel bad for the folks likely buried (to some degree) in their houses..thankfully there does not appear to be very many fires.


710 posted on 05/20/2013 8:35:57 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: greeneyes

Stay safe, don’t want to lose you.


711 posted on 05/20/2013 8:38:16 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: dirtboy

Couple of unusual tornado videos....both audio and video.

Here’s a too close for comfort video...in the debrie field with it coming directly toward the guy... Moore OK.... Visual and audio...

https://www.facebook.com/28storms/posts/614008051945039#!/photo.php?v=10200597107263068&set=vb.1021001701&type=2&theater

Debris from Moore Ok Tornado fell in Branson, MO. 250 miles

5 minutes of footage into a minute,....watch it spin back up at the end as well...creepy!
showing the mile-wide tornado roaring through the suburb.

http://www.komonews.com/home/video/Time-lapse-Massive-tornado-makes-path-of-destruction-in-OK-208200091.html?tab=video&c=y


712 posted on 05/20/2013 8:50:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: Marcella

ROTFLMAO


713 posted on 05/20/2013 8:52:20 PM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA)
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To: Marcella

Ditto that.LOL

I have a pretty safe bed room located near the back of the basement. It has a loft next to it that the kids use to play on, but can also sleep on.

If we have a little warning, we can all scramble under the loft. Inside basement area with double walls and very sturdy loft to catch falling debris. We keep an axe and a sledge hammer there too. Just in case we have to hack our way out.

Tornadoes are not to be messed with. With all the EF5s we may have to look into hardening things even more.


714 posted on 05/20/2013 8:54:52 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: bgill

Awesome, I raise my glass to you!

My gggg uncle was Erastus “Deaf” Smith.

Also related to Thomas Miller, Alamo defender, Gonzales, TX. He was one of the 31 that rode in as reinforcements.


715 posted on 05/20/2013 8:55:52 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: DJlaysitup
I feel bad for the folks likely buried (to some degree) in their houses..thankfully there does not appear to be very many fires.

Good chance of rain there tonight and tomorrow morning. Apparently a northern cold front has setup and the warm humid air from the south is rising and then rain falls. From KFOR.

They might need sump pumps and generators.

716 posted on 05/20/2013 8:59:24 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: DJlaysitup

Debris from Moore Ok Tornado fell in Branson MO. 250 miles away.


717 posted on 05/20/2013 8:59:52 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

The time compressed video appears to be at the tail end of the tornado. Notice how it appears to be pulsating just before it shrinks into a rope and vanishes.


718 posted on 05/20/2013 9:08:23 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: bgill

....”The water level where I am is too high for a basement. Even a storm shelter would be a close call before hitting water”....

I understand the ground in the Moore area doesn’t make underground a good idea.

I had a home that sat on the water table.....we concreted the entire basement a second level up with a sump pump.....but when a hurrican hit it crept over that second level even with the sump pump in operation.


719 posted on 05/20/2013 9:15:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: dirtboy

I think that’s the photo of the shelter the owner spoke of on the news, saying.... it took four men on the inside to hold that door from being ripped off.....and the outside handle was all mangled from the tornado ripping at it.


720 posted on 05/20/2013 9:19:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: Strategerist

It was reported the school was built in the 60’s. Also that many of the students had been moved to a nearby church.....makes you wonder if they didn’t have time to move them all as hoped for. We will know in time...and how many students were in the school this day.

My take is they all did what could be done under the circumstances and what they had.

Update:..

51 dead ...21 children from Fox interview.

40 more in transport to hospital.

via Fox


721 posted on 05/20/2013 9:28:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: dirtboy

I’ve never seen anything like that signature. It’s chilling just watching it on radar.


722 posted on 05/20/2013 9:33:03 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: DJlaysitup

Interviewed individual was saying that even though they were in an underground concrete shelter....the force of the tornado was ripping at the door allowing debrie to enter the shelter, and hitting them, as they hung onto the door...

I think none are in a position to judge how people prepared or handled this storm....for ‘everyone’ who went through it was all about surviving no matter how the picture might be painted by those who didn’t.


723 posted on 05/20/2013 9:35:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: justa-hairyape

Yes, I found it fasinating...it’s the only video I’ve seen yet that has it condensed into a minute...but really gives an amazing take...it looks like it was taken from a plane as well.

I also saw a picture taken of the cell from an airplane window on ‘top’ of it.

It’s really quite amazing the photos and videos that were taken of this particular tornado. I still get the chills seeing it’s rotation and how ‘violent’ it was.


724 posted on 05/20/2013 9:52:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Interviewed individual was saying that even though they were in an underground concrete shelter....the force of the tornado was ripping at the door allowing debrie to enter the shelter, and hitting them, as they hung onto the door...

Yeah - I've lived through some heavy weather - but nothing like this. Even if you have a full basement you still have to get under the stairs - or better - have a dugout.
725 posted on 05/20/2013 9:57:31 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: greeneyes

....”We keep an axe and a sledge hammer there too. Just in case we have to hack our way out”.....

Good thinking ahead like that.

Stay safe and let’s hope you don’t have to go through more than rain and wind.


726 posted on 05/20/2013 10:02:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: 21twelve
I’m on channel 4 and they are passing along messages from kids in the hosptial looking for parents, talking with red cross where supplies can be had, etc.

Talking about the “refugees” (10,000+) just walking to... somewhere.... I think the only way to handle that is for folks that can, with undamaged homes invite folks in. I guess I would favor those with small kids, and perhaps still sleep with one eye open. But blankets and pads on the living room floor, sharing some food and water for a night or two until roads open up, etc.

I heard/saw that too. One of my sons told me he did too. He said he saw clip of the people walking to ????, but he wasn't sure there were "10,000". Now, I can't find the story anywhere. I was trying to follow up on it. All those people whose homes were destroyed had to go someplace. I also heard that the University of Oklahoma opened its doors as a shelter; but how would they get there? I haven't seen the first bus loading people off to anywhere. The cars in Moore appear to be a mangled mess. Where are all those displaced people? What happened to the exodus of refugees?

727 posted on 05/20/2013 10:08:27 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: caww
There is a possibility that this was a bigger storm than: The Great Tri-State Tornado of Wednesday, March 18, 1925, is the deadliest tornado in U.S. history. Inflicting 695 fatalities,[2] the tornado killed more than twice as many as the second deadliest, the 1840 Great Natchez Tornado. The continuous ≥219 mile (≥352 km) track left by the tornado was the longest ever recorded in the world: the tornado crossed from southeastern Missouri, through southern Illinois, then into southwestern Indiana. Although not officially rated by NOAA, it is recognized by most experts (such as Tom Grazulis) as an F5 tornado, the maximum damage rating issued on the Fujita scale...
728 posted on 05/20/2013 10:09:38 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

Remembering this was a F5 Tornado is important in how people view those who went through this. .... it was a wicked beast of a thing....ripping, tearing and drilling itself against everything in it’s path.

I have no doubt those living in Oklahoma, and accustomed to Tornado warnings, could not have anticipated it would be this bad. Very sad for all there...and the death rate increases.


729 posted on 05/20/2013 10:09:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: DJlaysitup

Wow! And in 1925 the strength of Buildings and Homes were much less.

I recall hearing this one tracked over 60 square miles....but I don’t think we have all the final reports yet either.


730 posted on 05/20/2013 10:14:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

We are just under thunderstorm watch, so I am not too worried, but in case things change while I’m asleep, I’ll still be sleeping in the basement.


731 posted on 05/20/2013 10:26:28 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: caww
Wow! And in 1925 the strength of Buildings and Homes were much less.

Yes (not to get off topic from the current terrible deal)...but if the Tri-State hit today in exactly the same area (without warning which thank heavens we have) it would kill 10,000....if it came a bit north and hit St.Louis, East Saint Louis, and Collinsville without warning it would kill 100,000.
732 posted on 05/20/2013 10:29:19 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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Again O.T. - the Tri-State tornado of 1925 was responsible for portions of railroad tracks (the iron rails) from Southern Illinois - being found in Indiana (across the river). They didn’t have any markings to track them with but they just asked around as far as who was missing railroad tracks...and nobody was in Indiana.


733 posted on 05/20/2013 10:43:50 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: greeneyes

Just keep safe..these tornados come quick once they get rolling.


734 posted on 05/20/2013 11:02:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Well aware, always take precautions.


735 posted on 05/20/2013 11:09:32 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I’m up here in Western Pa. next three days expecting rain storms here and that’s it. But it rains here alot. Heard last year this area gets more rain then the state of Washington! I believe it!


736 posted on 05/20/2013 11:14:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I am in Missouri. Our town has been hit often enough that they call us tornado alley. It’s also on the New Madrid fault line. Felt the 3.0 quake we had a while back, but no damage.

That’s probably the biggest thing that we are not as prepared as I would like, but it’s kinda hard to retro fit a house for earthquakes.

Wind is picking up again, I am going to sign off now. Stay safe.


737 posted on 05/20/2013 11:27:36 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: DJlaysitup

Injured family walks with their children...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/multimedia/slideshow.aspx/Moore_Tornado/1483

Horse rescued from rubble...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/multimedia/slideshow.aspx/Moore_Tornado/1483

Newborn Kittens rescued....

http://www.tulsaworld.com/multimedia/slideshow.aspx/Moore_Tornado/1483

Additional 32 sideshow..... touching photos....children rescued....

http://www.tulsaworld.com/multimedia/slideshow.aspx/Moore_Tornado/1483


738 posted on 05/20/2013 11:44:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: greeneyes

Ok...BE Safe....and sign in tomorrow so we know you’re still ok.


739 posted on 05/20/2013 11:52:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: IamConservative
We couldn’t see a darn thing until the lighting struck.

In a strange twist of fate, I found myself evacuating to my basement shelter at 3:00 AM last night with the tornado siren blaring. I did look out. Couldn't see squat with trees, howling wind and sheets of rain. It was the leading wall edge w/ no lightening yet. No tornado touched down, but some of the Bradford Pears were snapped off and other limbs snapped.

740 posted on 05/21/2013 4:08:43 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: IamConservative

and now on to day 3


741 posted on 05/21/2013 4:09:44 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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and now on to day 3

As I looked at the school that was destroyed, I couldn't help but wonder how the outcome might have been different if there would have been a safe room with concrete walls and roof in the center of the building. The space could otherwise function as an auditorium or cafeteria.

742 posted on 05/21/2013 4:16:04 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: caww

OK. It’s morning, and we only had strong winds and lots of thunder, lightning, and rain.


743 posted on 05/21/2013 6:04:48 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

GGGG-grandpa Caleb Bostick. GGG-grandpa Sion Bostick was at the first battle of Bexar. He and cousin Robison (another 300) were in the scouting group who brought in Santa Anna at San Jacinto. It’s good to hear these stories.

Weather is going to kick up again this evening so stay safe.


744 posted on 05/21/2013 7:26:07 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: greeneyes

Oh good. Safe!...


745 posted on 05/21/2013 8:56:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: IamConservative

The school was built in the 60’s...not one of the newer ones which explains it pretty much...


746 posted on 05/21/2013 9:08:48 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Thank you for posting those photo links!! The spirit of Americans is captured in them. They are indeed very touching photos.

My family is from Oklahoma. From Antlers up to Guthrie, and east and west of those places throughout the state. I recieved text message several hours after the storm hit that all were okay! Nobody lives in Moore any more, but several were in the path. Prayers up for Oklahoma!

747 posted on 05/21/2013 10:41:42 AM PDT by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: exhaustedmomma

Yep.....I enjoy vidoes, but so often you cannot examine them or get “the moment” needed to pause at. Photos give an understanding and a closer look.....a much needed “pause” of the heart.


748 posted on 05/21/2013 10:45:44 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Several of them made me cry; like the National Guard guy crying! And the grandma with her cat; grandpa in his rocking chair; all the children photos! Citizens hiked up on those piles of rubble searching... inspiring and heart-wrenching!! Again, thanks!!


749 posted on 05/21/2013 10:48:45 AM PDT by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I just meant you joined in the chorus. I didn’t think you were being mean. :-)


750 posted on 05/25/2013 9:50:45 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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