Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

What is Common Core?
Lake Powell Chronicle ^ | May 16th, 2013 | Robin Brough

Posted on 05/20/2013 8:29:08 AM PDT by george76

Why does the U.S. Constitution make no mention of education? Because the Founding Fathers understood that the education of children must be at the local level. We now stand at the edge of a cliff as the federal Common Core State Standards continues its march across the country.

How did we get here? In 2009, the U.S. Department of Education blackmailed the states with stimulus money in the form of Race to the Top (RTTT) grants. If states wanted to get out from under No Child Left Behind, and wanted more funding they had to agree to adopt the Common Core. Most states (already underfunded by the federal government) jumped on the bandwagon.

(Excerpt) Read more at lakepowellchronicle.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; US: Idaho; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: common; commoncore; core; education; fascism; progressives; schools; teaching

1 posted on 05/20/2013 8:29:08 AM PDT by george76
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: george76

Common Core = Commie Lore


2 posted on 05/20/2013 8:37:12 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: george76

Here in Lake County, Ohio, Common Core means that the idiots who’re teaching our kids can now teach really stupid things to the kids. It’s called public education. Ya’ know . . . 2 plus 2 is kinda’ sorta’ 4 or it could be 5 if you’re not sure . . . but don’t worry about it.

Those old mindless things like math tables are gone . . . all ya’ gotta’ do is be close in math. It’s self-esteem for teachers and students on steroids.


3 posted on 05/20/2013 8:37:54 AM PDT by laweeks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: george76
Why does the U.S. Constitution make no mention of education? Because the Founding Fathers understood that the education of children must be at the local level.

Actually, they probably assumed the parents would take care of it. Universal government operated education didn't start till the middle of the 19th century, IIRC, and the proponents were openly collectivist big-government advocates. Yet people still did what they wanted. Go figure.

4 posted on 05/20/2013 8:39:24 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: laweeks
Those old mindless things like math tables are gone . . . all ya’ gotta’ do is be close in math. It’s self-esteem for teachers and students on steroids.

It's attitudes like that which destroy the reputation of Americans as engineers.

5 posted on 05/20/2013 8:40:24 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

That’s the idea, amigo. America needs to be taken down a peg or two, don’t ya know.


6 posted on 05/20/2013 8:45:07 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: laweeks
Those old mindless things like math tables are gone . . . all ya’ gotta’ do is be close in math.

Not here in Accomack County, Virginia. Answers have to be exact, not close, and they better know the formula or table to do the work.

7 posted on 05/20/2013 8:45:20 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: laweeks

Math tables are gone?

I am speechless.


8 posted on 05/20/2013 8:46:10 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: george76
Common core standards are ridiculous. I've been helping my grandson with his homework this year. Here are some sample spelling words - daughter, nephew, business, neighborhood, enough, prophet, and profit. Here are some sample vocab words - extravaganza, diligent, tedious, feasible, fragrant, and correspond. You want to guess his grade level? Second grade.

We've raised a bunch of kids. A lot of them would have no trouble with this work. But they're natural students and were very early readers. If they were grouping the kids, this work would be fine for the top level. But they're not grouping the kids these days and they expect all the 7 year olds to be able to do this.

My grandson is probably a high average student. His passion at this point in his life is sports. He could do all this work perfectly if we disregarded his passion. We're not about to do that. That means he routinely gets two or three wrong on a spelling test. That is something we never would've permitted with our own kids but these standards are ridiculous.

I predict they'll be history in two or three years. There's no way most parents from the inner city even know what some of these vocab words mean. Forget about helping their kids with the homework.

9 posted on 05/20/2013 9:01:19 AM PDT by old and tired
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kitkat
Math tables are gone? I am speechless.

I teach at an adult vocational junior college here in Northeast Ohio . . . and at least 1/2 of all my high school or GED students have no idea what a math table is . . . 4 X 4? Forget it. And that's just math.

I also teach English . . . parts of speech? Forget it.

And our high schools list almost 51% of their students on their Honor Rolls . . . 51% . . . impossible . . . 51%

Take the time, sometime, to count the names that are listed in the Honor Rolls listed in your newspapers. I did that once . . . it was boring but so very informative. I counted 3 different schools, called the schools and asked for their enrollment figures, and found that they were all over 50%, just around 51%.

10 posted on 05/20/2013 9:01:55 AM PDT by laweeks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: george76

We actually have good schools where we are....but they are implementing this common core. We’ve decided to go to private school route....


11 posted on 05/20/2013 9:03:41 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: laweeks
all ya’ gotta’ do is be close in math. It’s self-esteem for teachers and students on steroids.

That's not true. These days the teachers expect the kids to understand and describe the mathematical processes used to derive the answer. Memorizing the math facts would be easier. It would also be a huge improvement. Kids have the rest of their lives to figure out the process. If they even need to, which in most cases they won't.

Here's a sample second grade math question from October of this year. There are 150 pencils. 10 pencils in each box. How many boxes of pencils are there? Not so easy to figure out when you don't yet know how to multiply and divide.

12 posted on 05/20/2013 9:06:17 AM PDT by old and tired
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Army Air Corps
That’s the idea, amigo. America needs to be taken down a peg or two, don’t ya know.

Oh I know it. It's one thing I hate about "the industry" regarding my field: Computer Science. -- There's a lot of companies that want "coders" rather than "software engineers" (the difference being the later solve problems and consider impacts of design, while the former can degenerate into "script kiddies"). It's at the point where if you don't know (or like) C-style languages you're considered 'weird' (perhaps unemployable) though there are easily demonstrable flaws in even at the syntax-level which have been addressed/solved in other languages. (I could give examples, but then it'd become a rant.)

It's a microcosm of the same principle behind the "Graduate's Catch-22", where in order to get entry into a job you need X-years of experience in the field, and in order to get experience in the field you need a job -- it's that companies want cookie-cutter employees, and in order to do that they cannot use "non-standard"* languages/tools even if those tools/languages are better suited to the problems that company is [trying] to address. (See the term technical debt.)

* -- By "non-standard" I mean "less common", not one which lacks a standard.

13 posted on 05/20/2013 9:10:27 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: george76

No wonder it was so important to the Obama administration to kick that family back to Germany. The precident would have tied their hands completely.


14 posted on 05/20/2013 9:13:29 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: old and tired
That's not true. These days the teachers expect the kids to understand and describe the mathematical processes used to derive the answer. Memorizing the math facts would be easier. It would also be a huge improvement. Kids have the rest of their lives to figure out the process. If they even need to, which in most cases they won't.

Where the hell is THAT school? I'm telling you what we get out of our public schools locally, and it's pathetic . . . and I don't live in the Cleveland ghetto . . . this is a suburban area. If your kids are not in parochial schools, forget it.

15 posted on 05/20/2013 9:18:33 AM PDT by laweeks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: george76

Here’s an email I received two days ago.

Backlash Against Common Core

The national news media haven’t discovered it, but the issue that is bringing out hundreds of citizens who never before attended political meetings is Common Core (CC). More precisely, it is the attempt of Barack Obama’s Department of Education to force all states and schools to adopt specified national education standards for each grade level that will dictate what all kids learn and don’t learn.

Common Core means federal control of school curriculum, i.e., control by Obama Administration leftwing bureaucrats. Federal control will replace all curriculum decisions by state and local school boards, state legislatures, parents, and even Congress because Obama bypassed Congress by using $4 billion of Stimulus money to promote Common Core.

It’s not only public schools that must obey the fed’s dictates. Common Core will control the curriculum of charter schools, private schools, religious schools, Catholic schools, and homeschooling.

The control mechanism is the tests. Kids must pass the tests in order to get a high school diploma, admittance to college, or a GED. If they haven’t studied a curriculum based on Common Core, they won’t score well on the tests.

Common Core cannot be described as voluntary. Since CC is so costly to the states (estimated at $15 billion for each state for retraining teachers and purchase of computers for all kids to take the tests), CC is foisted on the locals by a combination of bribes, federal handouts, and as the price for getting a waiver to exempt a state from other obnoxious mandates such as No Child Left Behind.

Don’t be under any illusion that Common Core will make kids smarter. The Common Core academic level is lower than what many states use now, and the math standards are so inferior that the only real mathematician on the validation committee refused to sign off on the math standards.

He said the CC standards are two years behind international expectations by the 8th grade, and fall further behind in grades 8 to 12. The CC math standards downgrade the years when algebra and geometry are to be taught.

Parents will have a hard time helping their children with their math homework. CC standards call for teaching kids to add columns of figures from left to right instead of right to left.

CC advocates claim that the new standards will make students college-ready. That promise is a play on words: students will be ready only to enter a two-year nonselective community college.

Common Core means government agencies will gather and store all sorts of private information on every schoolchild into a longitudinal database from birth through all levels of schooling, plus giving government the right to share and exchange this nosy information with other government and private agencies, thus negating the federal law that now prohibits that. This type of surveillance and control of individuals is the mark of a totalitarian government.

Common Core reminds us of how Communist China gathered nosy information on all its schoolchildren, stored it in manila folders called dangans, and then turned the file over to the kid’s employer when he left school.

The New York Times once published a picture of a giant Chinese warehouse containing hundreds of thousands of these folders. That was in the pre-internet era when information was stored on paper; now data collection and storage are efficiently managed on computers in a greater invasion of privacy.

Common Core is encrusted with lies. It is not, as advertised, “state” written; it is a national project created in secret without any input from teachers or state legislatures. It is not “internationally benchmarked”; that never happened.

The readings assigned in the CC English standards are 50 percent “informational” texts instead of great American and English literature and classics. The result is that CC standards are very political.

The suggested readings include a salestalk for government health care (such as ObamaCare) and global warming propaganda (including a push for Agenda 21). Some of the fiction suggested is worthless and even pornographic, presumably chosen to reflect contemporary life. Another suggested reading favorably describes Fidel Castro and his associates without any indication they are tyrants, Communists, and mass murderers.

We should take a bit of advice from our neighbor to the north. Canada has no national standards (all standards are adopted locally) and not even any national Department of Education.

CC advocates admit the standards cannot be changed or errors corrected because they are already printed and copyrighted. Bills to repeal CC have been filed in Oklahoma, Kansas, Michigan, Missouri, Alabama, South Dakota and Georgia, and Indiana Governor Mike Pence just signed a law to “pause” the CC implementation and hold public hearings.


16 posted on 05/20/2013 9:30:17 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: laweeks

My grandson is in a parochial school - the Philadelphia Archdiocese uses the Core Standards. Although, like I said, I don’t think they’ll be using it for long - I give it two years, three at the most.


17 posted on 05/20/2013 9:32:47 AM PDT by old and tired
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: old and tired
Kids have the rest of their lives to figure out the process. If they even need to, which in most cases they won't.

It took thousands of years for man to deduce the mathematical algorithms. What possible sense does it make to force children to it all over again? You are correct.

Sometimes, it makes perfect sense to teach concepts backwards. Start with the long division algorithm and an understanding of what's going on will come with repetition.

There isn't time for kids to have to reinvent everything.

18 posted on 05/20/2013 9:52:09 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: laweeks

In addition to the ridiculous second grade vocab I listed in my post #9 above, here are a few more - accolade, archaic, semblance, dappled, habitat. I challenge everyone to quiz the first dozen adults they meet. It’s unlikely they could define all these second grade vocab words I’ve listed here and above. And yet, some of those same adults are almost certainly productive responsible taxpayers. I feel like the Core Standards have pushed fourth grade into second grade and they’re leaving behind 75% of the kids in the process.


19 posted on 05/20/2013 9:52:27 AM PDT by old and tired
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Blue Turtle
We actually have good schools where we are....but they are implementing this common core.

This is a common assertion by people even though they acknowledge that Public Education is a disaster, their school is good

The same logic applies to Congressmen, even though Congress has an approval rating somewhere around 3% the incumbent will retain their seat, because everyone thinks their congressman is great, it is just all the other congress critters that are crooks.

I don't care what school your children go to, they are getting indoctrinated into Marxism, and that includes private schools and religious schools, with few exceptions.

20 posted on 05/20/2013 11:05:28 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Still Thinking
Actually, they probably assumed the parents would take care of it.

No, the founders FEARED public education.

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads; in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress. Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America."

-- James Madison, Letter to Edmund Pendleton, 1792


21 posted on 06/02/2013 7:48:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]


22 posted on 06/02/2013 9:36:50 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and the other over my mouth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: george76

Common Core, or, more properly, Communist Core, is the best reason yet to make the necessary sacrifices for the kids and either home school them or enroll them in a quality, religious private school.


23 posted on 06/02/2013 10:25:25 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark
It's a microcosm of the same principle behind the "Graduate's Catch-22", where in order to get entry into a job you need X-years of experience in the field, and in order to get experience in the field you need a job.

Story of my life.

24 posted on 06/02/2013 1:26:07 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: laweeks
"...4 X 4? Forget it. And that's just math...."

So sayeth the IRS genius Ms. Lois Lerner.

25 posted on 06/02/2013 6:36:09 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson