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NRA tactics: Take no prisoners
WaPo ^ | 5/19/13 | Scott Higham & Sari Horowitz

Posted on 05/19/2013 7:11:54 AM PDT by T-Bird45

As a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association with an “A+” rating for her voting record in the Tennessee House of Representatives, Debra Maggart never imagined that her political career would end this way.

Maggart, who chaired the Republican caucus, killed an NRA-backed bill that would have permitted Tennesseans to keep firearms in their parked vehicles wherever they went — work, school or the neighborhood bar.

Months later, Maggart was stunned to see NRA-sponsored ads on billboards in her district. Her face was next to a picture of President Obama. The ads proclaimed: “Sure, Rep. Debra Maggart Says She Supports Your Gun Rights. Of Course, He Says the Same Thing.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; elections; guncontrol; manchin; nra; secondamendment; toomey
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Why do politicians that carry around a lightning rod seem so surprised when they get what they ask for? Did she think her NRA membership card implied some sort of electoral insurance against accountability?
1 posted on 05/19/2013 7:11:54 AM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: T-Bird45

The friend of my enemy is my enemy.


2 posted on 05/19/2013 7:17:22 AM PDT by tomkat (solve for x: Baraq = islamite .. islam = enemy ... Baraq = x)
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To: T-Bird45

T-Bird45 ~:” Did she think her NRA membership card implied some sort of electoral insurance against accountability? “

In a word -.. YES !
That is why we all need to be vigilant !


3 posted on 05/19/2013 7:19:07 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: T-Bird45

Washington Post.

see if you can find the real story.


4 posted on 05/19/2013 7:21:28 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: T-Bird45

If you mess with the bull, you get the horns.

NRA’s power is no different than the soul-stealing, thieving ways of AARP, any fricking union at all, or ANY one of George Soros-supported PACs, ‘movement’s, et al. Nor is it any worse than Planned Parenthood lobbying and sympatico, Google’s meddiling, Facebook’s meddling or any other rich-ass liberal’s playtoy.

Screw her, screw them. At least WE have a giant, too.


5 posted on 05/19/2013 7:22:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: T-Bird45

http://www.nrapvf.org/defeat/why-representative-debra-maggart-must-be-defeated.aspx


6 posted on 05/19/2013 7:22:46 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: T-Bird45

“Margaret...killed an NRA-backed bill that would have permitted Tennesseans to keep firearms in their parked vehicles...”

I’m thinking... duh... she should NOT have killed the bill.


7 posted on 05/19/2013 7:23:21 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Gaffer

screw the NRA

so you gladly take the word of the Washington Post?

http://www.nrapvf.org/defeat/why-representative-debra-maggart-must-be-defeated.aspx


8 posted on 05/19/2013 7:24:26 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: T-Bird45
Maggart was stunned

Maggart, you are so fortunate folks like me are not in charge and you were only stunned. You should be in prison doing at least 10 years of HARD labor for the decision you made to try and disarm law-abiding citizens. I don't want to hear another word out of your mouth, ever.

9 posted on 05/19/2013 7:26:16 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Vaquero
screw the NRA

And, you would be next in line for attitude adjustment.

10 posted on 05/19/2013 7:27:19 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: T-Bird45

But my question is, will the Democrat running against her be better? Of course not.

The NRA needs to rethink some support....for HARRY REID......


11 posted on 05/19/2013 7:27:29 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Vaquero

Not at all what I said. You took a “them” in the final words of an explanation to take it to mean I don’t support the NRA’s right to act. Barring that understandable interpretation, just exactly who do you think when I said “....we have a giant too...?”


12 posted on 05/19/2013 7:27:35 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: T-Bird45

If you accept the banner of the NRA, you have to accept their policies or you will be held accountable. I wish the Catholic Church would do the same.


13 posted on 05/19/2013 7:28:14 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Vaquero

Looks like she belongs in the Rogues Gallery along with backstabbing “Traitor Joe” Manchin.


14 posted on 05/19/2013 7:29:08 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Gaffer

“Screw her, screw them. At least WE have a giant, too.”

Yeah, and we should use this tactic on every last one of them who profess to be “one of us,” and then do the opposite of what they told us! This has always been our problem: “those who draw near to us with their lips, but their hearts are far from us.” Our real problem has always been what passes for a Republican!


15 posted on 05/19/2013 7:30:00 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

sorry I was paraphrasing the poster I was answering...I should have put it in quotation


16 posted on 05/19/2013 7:32:12 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: T-Bird45

Life can be crappy when you vote the wrong way.


17 posted on 05/19/2013 7:33:48 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: vette6387

sorry I though you were saying Screw the NRA I was answering...I should have put it in quotation

I and my three boys are all life members.


18 posted on 05/19/2013 7:33:52 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Dutch Boy

“I wish the Catholic Church would do the same.”

No kidding! And how about the Mormons backing Harry Reid and those worthless turds, the Udall bros., or Jeff “the Flake?” Mormons should be backing the likes of Jason Chafetz and Mike Lee, or that stellar young Black woman, Mia Long. All the churches are just in the “god business” for control of your lives and your money. I sure as hell don’t need them to be a good person, life is too short to buy what they are all selling.


19 posted on 05/19/2013 7:36:27 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Vaquero
sorry I though you were saying Screw the NRA I was answering...I should have put it in quotation

I suggest you have the AM pull the post, or you'll be answering for it all day.

20 posted on 05/19/2013 7:36:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

anyone who didn’t see who Manchin was before the last 2 elections that he won, was thinking with their union thug mentality and hoping he would save their guns.


21 posted on 05/19/2013 7:37:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

“sorry I though you were saying Screw the NRA”

I think you responded to the wrong person, because I understood what you were trying to say.


22 posted on 05/19/2013 7:37:59 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"Life can be crappy when you vote the wrong way."

Amen.

23 posted on 05/19/2013 7:40:36 AM PDT by dansangel (Rest in peace, .45MAN)
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To: T-Bird45
“As a pro-Second Amendment person and a life member of the NRA, I was just shocked they did this to me,” Maggart said in an interview.

If you're pro-Second Amendment, then why did you use your influence to kill a bill that bolsters it?

24 posted on 05/19/2013 7:45:21 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Vaquero
anyone who didn’t see who Manchin was before the last 2 elections that he won, was thinking with their union thug mentality and hoping he would save their guns.

NRA/ILA gave Manchin an "A" rating and endorsement in both the 2010 election to replace Sheets Byrd, and again in the regular 2012 election. So, you're telling me that Chris Cox was thinking with his "union thug mentality and hoping he would save their guns"? It's as good an explanation as any ...

25 posted on 05/19/2013 7:46:00 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: T-Bird45

She deserves it! Not being able to lock your weapon in your POV limits folks from carrying. It should also apply to school properties and events and all state property.


26 posted on 05/19/2013 7:46:28 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: T-Bird45

Bad title; “take no prisoners”. It should have been NRA stands on principal.

Our long fought for CC law in WI contains a provision that mandates (under certain storage requirements) no one can ban CC weapons in parked, locked personal vehicles. Why? Because if you want to go to a store that is posted what are you supposed to do with your weapon?


27 posted on 05/19/2013 7:50:50 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: Vaquero

OK, I read your link to the NRA PVF article. It adds political procedural details that were omitted from the WaPo article. Thanks for the link. I’m not one that makes a habit of posting from the WaPo and the broad scope of the article meant they didn’t give the deeper details on Maggart. The article still has value to show the power of the NRA to bring previously-reliable pols to accountability. That’s a valuable message in the current circumstances and the reason behind my posting.


28 posted on 05/19/2013 7:50:51 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

She was opposed in the Republican primary and her challenger won. She claims she was lied about and paints herself a victim. The NRA PVF article linked earlier in the thread provides interesting details that show Maggart was the author of her own defeat.


29 posted on 05/19/2013 7:59:28 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: logic101.net
I think our shall-issue CCW law in MI had a provision baring CCW in schools and court buildings.

The Sheriff put a sign to that effect on the Hillsdale County Courthouse.

The Judge ordered it be removed at once. He said his court would be governed by the US Constitution, including the 2nd amendment!

To this day there is no sign barring weapons from that court.

30 posted on 05/19/2013 8:04:49 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: T-Bird45

Wah! She took NRA campaign money and then stabbed it in the back. Good riddance!


31 posted on 05/19/2013 8:12:50 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: T-Bird45

But when Ubama uses the IRS to go after his enemies it’s just good politics, right WaPo?


32 posted on 05/19/2013 8:13:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Vaquero
screw the NRA

It is apparent that you have not noticed the NRA is one a very few organizations that are standing up for our bill of rights. Your attitude just prompted me to pull the flyer out of my recycle bin and send them another check - it is always put to great use up their at NRA headquarters. You posted a fine comment today - prompted action on my part.

THANKS.
33 posted on 05/19/2013 8:24:33 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: T-Bird45

Actually...if conservatives would act the way the NRA does...we would never have John McCain as a Senator or presidential candidate

I like that the NRA stood firm On a gun control politician...too many times GOP voters make excuses for supporting a politician who is obviously liberal


34 posted on 05/19/2013 8:25:23 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: T-Bird45

She says NRA turned on her.....Ha !

I’m the NRA’s banker Debra, me, the voter, my dues and donations to NRA and other such organizations are the source of the NRA’s funds. Those that monitor polidiots like you who try to circumvent the constitution. They say who you are, what you do and myself, members of the NRA or not, get to decide if what you did was constitutional and or conservative by voting.

NRA doesn’t vote Debra, they are the sentry of the Second Amendments security. They tell the membership and general public what you did.

Debra ....I can’t be everywhere, all the time, your state or mine thus I pay to have folks like the NRA to seek trash like you out.

Debra ya took an oath to uphold the constitution. Then didn’t honor that oath.

Bye !


35 posted on 05/19/2013 8:48:19 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Cheerio

sorry I though a poster was saying Screw the NRA I was answering...I should have put it in quotation or in the form of a question

I and my three boys are all life members.


36 posted on 05/19/2013 8:50:58 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: T-Bird45

It’s about time and a good start. Now I assume they’ll go after harry reid?


37 posted on 05/19/2013 8:52:28 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: T-Bird45

Good. The system works.


38 posted on 05/19/2013 8:54:12 AM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: T-Bird45
Why do politicians that carry around a lightning rod seem so surprised when they get what they ask for? Did she think her NRA membership card implied some sort of electoral insurance against accountability?

I'm guessing she didn't learn a thing from Ms. Lewinski - just paying lip service will not endear you to those you are trying to impress...

39 posted on 05/19/2013 9:03:23 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: T-Bird45
She just learned that stupid actions have unpleasant consequences.

Too bad she had to learn the hard way.

40 posted on 05/19/2013 9:30:10 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: T-Bird45

Supporting gun control cost Maggert her seat. Opposing gun control will probably cost Ayotte her seat. It all depends on where the race is being run.


41 posted on 05/19/2013 9:43:00 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: T-Bird45

if you are pro-2a, you don’t vote against laws that make it easier for people to exercise their 2a rights. period.

the only way you would is if someow they tacked so ething on that made abortion free and easy, or something that was named sounding pro-gun but in reality was the exact opposite - like the affordable care act, or some other democrat bill.


42 posted on 05/19/2013 9:48:47 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: T-Bird45

She got what she deserved for killing common sense legislation.


43 posted on 05/19/2013 10:02:20 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Beagle8U

Here in southeastern Indiana almost two decades ago our local judge,a real a**hole demanded metal detectors and all sorts of restrictions at the formerly open courthouse.The only thing that really seemed to have changed after a 150 years at the courthouse was the arrival of this arrogant punk.

I think the fact he was raised by a mother of Asian origin who clung to all her birth nation attitudes rather than adopt the principles of American life with her American husband.


44 posted on 05/19/2013 10:11:47 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: T-Bird45

So what the bleep is wrong with Tennessee that firearms can’t be locked in a non-moving vehicle anyway? Are the tar babies supposed to “pack” at all time? There must be some other nonsense involved here? Maybe you’re supposed to leave the engine running if you have a gun in the truck? In any case if they have a stupid, non-workable law they ought to be getting rid of it and the dumbass chick who got in the way.


45 posted on 05/19/2013 10:52:18 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: T-Bird45

Politicians need to be made to understand this one fundamental fact:

If you SAY you support our Constitutional, civil, and Basic Human Right to keep and bear arms, you damn well better VOTE that way too.

This is in not a game. People’s lives depend on it.

Good on the NRA for calling her out on it.


46 posted on 05/19/2013 1:45:09 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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Dear NRA,

Please target all of these maggots so we can take Colorado back:
Democrat Representative Claire Levy
Democrat Representative Rhonda Fields
Democrat Senator Morgan Carroll
Democrat Senator Evie Hudak
Democrat Representative Beth McCann
Democrat Senator Lois Tochtrop
Democrat Representative Jenise May
Democrat Representative Lois Court
Democrat Senator Rollie Heath
Democrat Senator Mary Hodge
Democrat Senator John Morse
Democrat Senator Jessie Ulibarri
Democrat Senator Irene Aguilar
Democrat Senator Lucia Guzman
Democrat Senator Angela Giron
Democrat Senator Gail Schwartz
Democrat Senator John Kefalas
Democrat Senator Jeanne Nicholson
Democrat Senator Matt Jones
Democrat Senator Cheri Jahn
Democrat Senator Andy Kerr
Democrat Senator Linda Newell
Democrat Senator Nancy Todd
Democrat Senator Pat Steadman
Democrat Senator Michael Johnston

OH! And Hickenlooper.


47 posted on 05/19/2013 1:49:35 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: T-Bird45

Re: Drudge headline.. “I’m a Black Man” seems that team 0bama has resorted to the race card as his only way out of this mess.. Get ready for doubling down on race card tactic this upcoming week. Ain’t gonna work.


48 posted on 05/19/2013 2:24:17 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: T-Bird45

“They did this to send a message: ‘If you don’t do what we want, we will annihilate you.’ ”

Yeah? So FOAD.

You defeated a bill that everyone else wanted. Why?

You didn’t think there would be repercussions?

I’d ask how stupid you are but, the question answers itself.


49 posted on 05/19/2013 3:42:38 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: T-Bird45

The NRA’s tough tactics have a long history. In 1994, after President Bill Clinton pushed criminal background checks and a 10-year ban on assault-style weapons through Congress, the NRA organized a grass-roots uprising.

The midterm elections that year were a bloodbath for Democrats who opposed the NRA, and Republicans took control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years.

Yep. Felt like 1776 again and next year will feel the same.


50 posted on 05/19/2013 3:44:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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