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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...the shadow health minister warned of a generation of angry, inarticulate young men who had no idea of their role in society. Raised on a diet of pornography and consumerism, they were "caught between the stiff-upper-lip approach of previous generations" and the "pornified ideals" of a youth culture that featured Viagra as a party drug and promoted sexism and homophobia.

From my observation the real problem todays boys and young men face as they transition to manhood, is that society has totally gone in the tank for women. It has become so fashionable to cheer on the ladies, that the poor little boys and young men are left to fend for themselves. And that today is tantamount to swimming against the roaring river.

Where are the male role models? Today's leading man in the media is all too often more efiminate than the women in the 50s and 60s of the last century.

A guy today is actually looked down on or discounted if he opens the door for a young woman. If he does he's denegrating her. The next babe comes along and if he doesn't open the door, he's a disgraceful lout.

Don't dare raise you voice boys, and if you can squeeze out tears, bonus points aplenty.

Can't tell you how many times I've heard it said society doesn't really need men these days. Then the women who have just said that lament the fact there are no real men around anymore.

Say you're sorry and your weak. Don't say it and you're conceited and not worthy then either.

I love the women who just spoil young boys rotten, giving them hollow compliments ever few seconds, just before they sit down in the living room with their friends and rip ever male they've come in contact with in their lives over the age of 18.

Where do these women think the men over 18 come from? Dropped from space in the middle of the night?

It's just such a double standard. Young boys, great. Men over 18, evil demon seed...

Guys are fed so much bull. Be vulnerable. Don't be afraid to show your emotions. Don't challenge women. Women have it hard enough as it is...

LOL, and this woman lays it all off on pornography? Really?

In the 70s and 80s the powers that be in the education system determined that the language used in school was boy-centric. The phrases and concepts appealed to boys, not girls. Of course this had to be corrected. And so they set about correcting it to the extent that the perceived problem was so fixed, that they reversed the problem. All of a sudden, it was girl-centric. And then, no problem at all.

Boys are bored stiff. Recesses where they used to blow off steam are now in many places history. The very place where boys learned their social skills to deal with other men, was all of a sudden short-circuited. No need for that girls... huh!

Well folks, the societal engineers have worked their magic. Women far outnumber men in universities. Who could have seen this coming?

Hey men, if your kid give you problems, just call the police on them... LMAO

Don't you dare raise a finger to get those kids back in line. You're so relegated by this society that not only your wife tells you what to do and you better do it, but your own kids can tell you what to do, and you better do it.

Good luck gals. It's a brave new world you folks ushered in. Enjoy...

2 posted on 05/19/2013 3:06:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Bump.


4 posted on 05/19/2013 3:27:34 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep ... what you said.


5 posted on 05/19/2013 3:28:48 AM PDT by knarf (uals-two logic)
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To: DoughtyOne
Just for your info:
Diane Abbott
A member of the Labour Party (Insufferable Lefties)
Elected as MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington in 1987
The First Black Woman to be elected to the Commons.

Your comment:
BUMP!

7 posted on 05/19/2013 3:52:37 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. liberals and logic: Never confuse the two! Hi MI# !)
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To: DoughtyOne

“A guy today is actually looked down on or discounted if he opens the door for a young woman. “

Not true here. You need to move to the South


8 posted on 05/19/2013 3:57:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I couldn’t have said it better, so I won’t.


9 posted on 05/19/2013 4:00:55 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: DoughtyOne

and I would add young men are expected to hold back when other demographics— women, certain minorities— are on the field. It is a huge mess. 25 years ago I could tell which young men in my platoon had grown up in a single parent (mother) household. Now it’s the whole bloody culture.


11 posted on 05/19/2013 4:14:49 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: DoughtyOne

It says a lot about the “feminist” movement when they have to emasculate men to be ‘successful’. There is some hope: I have a thoroughly modern niece who has met a really great guy .... it has been wonderful to see them embracing traditional roles - he loves it when she cooks for him (she does it because she loves him, wants him to be happy) and she likes looking out the window and seeing him doing “manly” (her description) things like chopping wood for the wood stove. Of course, she helps him fix the combine and get in the hay ... they work as a team. My advice to my nieces was not to marry a ‘man’ with a handshake like a sweaty marshmallow .... so far, so good - they’re finding guys that love the outdoors, have a ‘handy’ streak, and are truly ‘manly’ ... but then they are truly ‘womanly’ and those two characteristics attract each other. BTW - my nieces and their men were all raised in families where it was God first, then family ... no coincidence they all turned out so well.


12 posted on 05/19/2013 4:26:35 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: DoughtyOne
Well said, Doughty. The militant feminists have won. This is what they wanted. Now they're complaining that all of the "good men" are gone. Well... what did you expect?

In the 70s and 80s the powers that be in the education system determined that the language used in school was boy-centric.

This is never more prevalent than in our higher education system now. Visit any engineering college in the United States. From Maine to California, you'll find that the overwhelming majority of engineering courses are occupied by non-American men. American women, not so much, but non-American men: everywhere.

The feminists literally bred the curiosity out of our boys. Schools used to feature hands-on hard sciences. We used to play war and tag and capture the flag in the school yard during recess/P.E. Now the boys are disinterested in anything that doesn't involve TV, video games, or sex.

Political correctness has destroyed everything about the essential human experience we all KNOW to be true. Political correctness is neither political nor correct. It is destructive and wrong, and we really need to do something about all of this crap infecting our society.

15 posted on 05/19/2013 4:43:39 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Boy Scouts is a premiere organization on helping groom a young boy into a man. Promoting the values and virtues necessary....

I was proud to serve as a Scoutmaster for several years....

Regarding myself, I know what’s right and wrong so I do the right thing almost without thought or second consideration. I ain’t perfect but I endeavor every day to hold to the standards I’ve set, not anyone elses....

As a result, I care little about what anyone else thinks of me....I don’t need acceptance nor approval from others.

So when I hold a door open for a lady, I don’t do it for her approval or acceptance, I do it because I hold to those standards.

For example, I enjoy cigars.... Everyone tells me I need to quit (mindless little robots) however I enjoy them in moderation and totally WITHOUT GUILT.

When you have strong foundation standards and faith ingrained deeply.....and adhere to them, your life, choices and direction greatly simplifies and you become calm and happy versus agitated and angry as so many male youth are today....


17 posted on 05/19/2013 4:48:37 AM PDT by nevergore
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To: DoughtyOne
For the last several years, I was involved in Cub Scouts. It was truly a depressing experience. Bunch of moms as leaders that had no control. I was only male leader. Most of the boys were from single mom or grandparents raising them.

Once I got involved, I did not tolerate the disrespect. I actually raised my voice at first often to get control. Several of the mothers complained including other leaders. When they did I had a simple question. “Why is your boy in the Scouts?” I got all sorts of answers, but I would tell them that the purpose of Scouts is to make strong men. It requires discipline for a boy to become a man. Otherwise he is just an overgrown boy.

The best part was that most of the boys actually desired the authority. They are looking for a strong man to lead them but sadly have very few to chose from today.

19 posted on 05/19/2013 4:52:15 AM PDT by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
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To: DoughtyOne
The great taboo, the veritable mastodon in the room, is that whatever societal 'advances' Western women have made since the caves are the direct result of the chivalry and doting forbearance of men.

Spanning the gamut from angelic to loathsome, women can be the most captivatingly awesome of creatures, or they can be Hellary!, or any of the countless variants between.

In our eternally mysterious yearning for their company, and in deference to their infinite idiosyncrasies, men routinely supply and refresh the various clubs used to beat us into seeming PC impotence.

Wimyn seem to think they want to wage war on men and rule the world, when the reality, absent that chivalry and forbearance, is that they wouldn't last a day.


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23 posted on 05/19/2013 5:07:25 AM PDT by tomkat (solve for x: Baraq = islamite .. islam = enemy ... Baraq = x)
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To: DoughtyOne

re Post # 2

Excellent, well tempered rant !!
I wholeheartedly support everything you wrote.


26 posted on 05/19/2013 5:31:51 AM PDT by Dartman (Mubarak and Gaddafi are going to look like choirboys when this is over)
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To: All

There’s something else I left out, that I think needs to be touched on here.

Along with the move to ‘normalize’ homosexual, transexual, and other behaviors, there was an aspect of it that gets mentioned too seldom.

When men were men, it was fairly easy to identify yourself sexually, and develop the behaviors that typified your gender.

Today that has become blurred.

There have been instances where young people have been challenged as to what their true orientation is. Kids, always trying to evolve into their proper role during the awkward years, are now being asked, “How do you know, unless you have experimented?”

This cannot be having a great impact on todays male youth who are evolving into manhood.


44 posted on 05/19/2013 12:58:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
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