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This Is No Ordinary Scandal
Wall Street Journal ^ | 5-16-13 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 05/16/2013 4:48:50 PM PDT by grimalkin

We are in the midst of the worst Washington scandal since Watergate. The reputation of the Obama White House has, among conservatives, gone from sketchy to sinister, and, among liberals, from unsatisfying to dangerous. No one likes what they're seeing. The Justice Department assault on the Associated Press and the ugly politicization of the Internal Revenue Service have left the administration's credibility deeply, probably irretrievably damaged. They don't look jerky now, they look dirty. The patina of high-mindedness the president enjoyed is gone.

Something big has shifted. The standing of the administration has changed.

As always it comes down to trust. Do you trust the president's answers when he's pressed on an uncomfortable story? Do you trust his people to be sober and fair-minded as they go about their work? Do you trust the IRS and the Justice Department? You do not.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; crime; irs; irsscandal; noonan
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Not always a fan of Noonan, but thought this was worth posting.
1 posted on 05/16/2013 4:48:50 PM PDT by grimalkin
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To: grimalkin

Undocumented Tyrant's Terrorist-freeing and GunWalking AG
"You WILL Trust us or, on the morrow, be audited."

2 posted on 05/16/2013 4:52:40 PM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: grimalkin

We are in the midst of the worst Washington scandal since Watergate.

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Nope. Seems Peggy has amnesia. Benghazi is the worst Washington scandal since Fast and Furious. And then comes the Clinton scandals.

Then - far down the list in DC scandals - comes Watergate.


3 posted on 05/16/2013 4:52:53 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: grimalkin

What happens when you elect Marxists.


4 posted on 05/16/2013 4:53:32 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Q: The worst president in US history?)
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To: grimalkin

Oh, Peggy, you should have retired 12 years ago.


5 posted on 05/16/2013 4:53:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: grimalkin

I haven’t trusted the Government nor the electoral process since Obama was elected.

Now we find they crippled the Republicans even worse than picking Romney as Candidate.

An election where fraudulent votes are counted, people voted more than once, now we find the IRS doing dirty deeds dirt cheap.

Add Benghazi and fast and Furious to this mess and also add Roberts being blackmailed to approve Obamacare and we seethe depth of the crooked administration we have in charge.


6 posted on 05/16/2013 4:54:25 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: nickcarraway

I would have liked the article better if she hadn’t embraced him so throughly in his first run.


7 posted on 05/16/2013 4:54:59 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years)
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To: grimalkin

But Peggy...Joe Klein says the AP story is no big deal...just a “policy debate”.

And Benghazi is a scam by Republicans.

The IRS? Well, Obamabuttlicker Joe Klein concedes it is bad...but hey, Obama is the MAN for Joe.


8 posted on 05/16/2013 4:55:11 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: KC Burke

Not only that, but she’s delusional about the fact that this is hurting him. I don’t believe it.


9 posted on 05/16/2013 4:56:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: grimalkin

Bttt.


10 posted on 05/16/2013 4:56:35 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Diogenesis
WHO IS THE LADY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PHOTO???

SHE IS RECORDING THE EXCHANGE OF WORDS...

PLEASE PUT A NAME WITH THE FACE....

11 posted on 05/16/2013 4:58:34 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: grimalkin
The IRS case deserves and calls out for an independent counsel, fully armed with all that position's powers. Only then will stables that badly need to be cleaned, be cleaned.

Uh, Peggy? The people doing this have absolutely no intention of cleaning any stables. This is the new business as usual.

12 posted on 05/16/2013 4:58:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: grimalkin

“High Noonan” must be a western movie starring the Three Stooges..


13 posted on 05/16/2013 4:58:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Obama is the MAN for Joe.

Joe's next book will be titled "Primary Kool-Aid".

14 posted on 05/16/2013 4:58:52 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: ptsal

BTTT... WHO IS THE LADY IN THE PHOTO ????


15 posted on 05/16/2013 4:59:44 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: ptsal

... WHO IS THE LADY IN THE PHOTO ????


16 posted on 05/16/2013 5:00:17 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: nickcarraway

It ain’t hurting him with the libturds. Bette Midler applauds the persecution. A handful of libturds claim they are “concerned” and then we find that most of them sent letters to IRS asking them to do just what was done. Horsecrap Bozo is upset. They are all sniggering up their sleeves.


17 posted on 05/16/2013 5:00:57 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: grimalkin
Something big has shifted. The standing of the administration has changed.

Put a sock in it Peggy. Where were you when it mattered?

18 posted on 05/16/2013 5:01:13 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: grimalkin

Peggy still doesn’t get it.....the leftists don’t care if anyone ever respects the IRS or other abusive executive agencies anymore.

We just must OBEY.


19 posted on 05/16/2013 5:03:26 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Diogenesis
Here's a pic of the Former STASI Eric(h) in charge (H0lder's predecessor):


20 posted on 05/16/2013 5:03:41 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: grimalkin

Why is anyone surprised by the use of the IRS to persecute dissent and of the government searching the AP with a secret warrant?

After all it those who support the Obamanation of Desolation that claim the constitution is just a document.

The left believes that the end justifies the means. They believe that their end is good and that any way they can achieve it is justified.

That is the true difference between the left and the right. The Right is generally made up of people that are either absolutist or rationalist in the areas of ethics and morals while the Left are subjectivist which is simply a modern form of sophist


21 posted on 05/16/2013 5:04:36 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: grimalkin

Do you trust the IRS with your health dossier and payment approvals?


22 posted on 05/16/2013 5:05:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ptsal

WHO IS THE LADY BESIDE HOLDER...SHE HAS A RECORDING DEVICE IN HER HAND...


23 posted on 05/16/2013 5:05:12 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: grimalkin

Either he knew about fast and furious, IRS harassment, etc., or he didn’t.

If he knew, he’s complicit.

If he didn’t, he’s incompetent.

Choose your poison, Zero, you loser shyster huckster con-man!


24 posted on 05/16/2013 5:05:15 PM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: KC Burke
What the heck did Noonan do? As far as I can recall, she wrote some touchy-feely column(s) about Obama being a transcendent figure, and about how his acceptance speech was "inspiring" (or something).

Look at her now, she wrote a touchy-feely column that is right on the money--just as the earlier ones were.

25 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ptsal
WHO IS THE LADY NEXT TO HOLDER.... SHE RECORDED THE EXCHANGE.....

....A NAME PLEASE....

26 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:13 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: grimalkin
And it would be shameful and shallow for any Republican operative or operator to make this scandal into a commercial and turn it into a mere partisan arguing point and part of the game. It's not part of the game.

Totally disagree with Noonan on this point! If ever we need to enter the 'game' and start playing hard ball, this is it! If talking points are true, why should they be off limits in the 'game', when the game is the very serious task of bringing attention to people and things that are wrong in our govt?

27 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:24 PM PDT by uncitizen (Drip drip drip)
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To: KC Burke

She did and it was disgusting. I felt embarrassed for her.


28 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:32 PM PDT by grimalkin (Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God. -G.K. Chesterton)
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To: grimalkin

BTTT


29 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:36 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: grimalkin

Bengazi is the scandal; all else is distraction. Actionable distraction certainly but it’s Bengazi that will keep Hillary out of the white house


30 posted on 05/16/2013 5:06:51 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

And regardless of whether “the standing of the administration has changed,” almost certainly, nothing will be done about any of this. What came of Fast and Furious? — Nothing, and nobody cares. Nobody is going to care about this, either. With the ‘Rat control of the Senate, President Zero knows he is untouchable.

The country voted for him, and the country needs to have all four years of him. And his little dog Boener, too.


31 posted on 05/16/2013 5:07:27 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: grimalkin

0bama using the IRS against his political enemies is clearly an IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE and are the actions of a tyrant.


32 posted on 05/16/2013 5:08:42 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: ptsal

33 posted on 05/16/2013 5:09:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ptsal

Whoever she is, she seems to be getting hot watching holder the magnificent administer a thourough dressing down to whitey.


34 posted on 05/16/2013 5:10:26 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ptsal; MestaMachine; maggief

I seem to remember there was a name on the thread when I first saw that photo. Of course I have no idea when I first saw it. Maggief is a good researcher, and has a good memory, and also Mesta Machine may remember.


35 posted on 05/16/2013 5:14:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: grimalkin
We all have our biases. Mine is for a federal government that, for all the partisan shootouts on the streets of Washington, is allowed to go about its work. That it not be distracted by scandal, that political disagreement be, in the end, subsumed to the common good.

Really, Peggy. Do you not understand that this administration and the Democrat party have made the work of the federal government to subsume individual liberty and economic freedom?

How else can the country be defended except by "partisan shootouts"?

There is an enemy within, Peggy, and he controls the federal government. And, may I add, he is the guy you supported...

36 posted on 05/16/2013 5:16:09 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: grimalkin
And it would be shameful and shallow for any Republican operative or operator to make this scandal into a commercial and turn it into a mere partisan arguing point and part of the game. It's not part of the game. This is not about the usual partisan slugfest. This is about the integrity of our system of government and our ability to trust, which is to say our ability to function.

How, then, do you propose to fight it, Peggy? With a high-minded bi-partisan commission of Washington lifers? Like yourself?

37 posted on 05/16/2013 5:18:28 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: grimalkin

I have had it. If they don’t clean this house top to bottom, I will become an ex-pat.


38 posted on 05/16/2013 5:18:48 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: nickcarraway
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I didn't know that Mrs. Noonan had divorced ... and is now dating "Captain Obvious" ...


Actually, Peggy would fit in nicely with those 1930's Geman Industrialists (and their beautiful wives) who enjoyed "flirting" with the Nazis ...


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39 posted on 05/16/2013 5:19:56 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Piss upon Obama, and his False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: muir_redwoods

Bengazi is by far the worst but it poses a problem for those who want to be rid of obumbler.

In regard to Bengazi, there are many problems in charging obumbler. Dumb....no law against dumb. Bad judgement...no law against that. Ashamed of the end result?....no law against being ashamed.

But the IRS matter is clearly a criminal act. It can be proven that it was intentional, law breaking, etc.

I think that is why the congress, most of whom are lawyers, are bearing down on the IRS matter even though unlike Bengazi, no one died.

It is a matter of which case one could try in court and make a convincing argument under the law.


40 posted on 05/16/2013 5:20:34 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: ptsal

Susan Rice, isn’t it?


41 posted on 05/16/2013 5:20:53 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The government rejects the natural law because it is an obstacle to its control over us.)
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To: ptsal

Spamming the thread in all-caps isn’t going to get you an answer. Track down the photo and maybe you’ll find a caption. Do we have to do *all* your work?


42 posted on 05/16/2013 5:21:02 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: grimalkin

Peg’s undies have clearly dried out.


43 posted on 05/16/2013 5:28:26 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (WHO IS ON THE ENEMIES LIST?)
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To: grimalkin

Shut up and slink away, Peggy, you political slut. This is not a damned game. The We The People sovereignty is at greatest risk since the CW.


44 posted on 05/16/2013 5:28:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: okie01

The right shouldn’t make a scandal of it, said the self-styled liberal socialite on the DC cocktail circuit who writes a political gossip column disguised as in-depth analysis to make ends meet.


45 posted on 05/16/2013 5:29:18 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Dallas59

What happens when you elect Marxists.


Lawless communist thugs.


46 posted on 05/16/2013 5:31:56 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: grimalkin
Do I need to remind people...

"Original Post: Wall Street Journal columnist and former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan and former John McCain adviser, Time columnist, and MSNBC contributor Mike Murphy were caught on tape disparaging John McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential running mate. "It's over," Noonan said. When Chuck Todd asked her if this was the most qualified woman the Republicans could nominate, Noonan responded, "The most qualified?. No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullshit about narratives. Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and that's not what they're good at, they blow it."

Peggy Who???

47 posted on 05/16/2013 5:33:39 PM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: grimalkin
We are in the midst of the worst Washington scandal since Watergate.

These folks are so steeped in Watergate, they can't see straight. Watergate was kid stuff to the Clinton administration's antics, and this guy is probably the worst since revolutionary war traitors, and they weren't president.

This guy is president. These are the biggest scandals to ever rock this nation.

Pull your head out Noonan.

48 posted on 05/16/2013 5:34:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, becasue he was born there...)
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To: grimalkin
"...gone from sketchy to sinister..."

Sinister? How about blatantly criminal? I want to see lots of people out from behind their desks and into prison orange... Including hussein.

49 posted on 05/16/2013 5:35:16 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Diogenesis; MestaMachine; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; justa-hairyape; onyx; SunkenCiv; Grampa Dave; ...

Oh yes,...very good.


50 posted on 05/16/2013 5:36:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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