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Benghazi Reveals the Heart of Progressivism
americanthinker.com ^ | 5-15-2013 | Daren Jonescu

Posted on 05/15/2013 3:46:00 AM PDT by servo1969

In the first months after the Benghazi attack, the most urgent question, and one only rarely asked, was "What were Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton doing during the seven and a half hours between the initial emergency communications from Benghazi and the final American deaths?" A negative answer was provided in February by Leon Panetta: they were not engaging with their subordinates; they were not contacting anyone to discuss options; they were giving no orders for action; they remained entirely uninvolved.

We are left to speculate about the positive answer to that question. Were they sleeping? Curled up by the fire with a good manifesto? Playing poker with Huma and the gang? Practicing jokes for a fundraising speech? Your guess is as good as mine.

And none of these guesses really matter in the end, compared to the looming horror that attends any of thepossibilities, namely this: the president and secretary of state of the most powerful nation on Earth are impervious to shame. They can do -- they have done -- what you hope you could never do, what you pray your children will never be able to do, what psychologists fill academic journals attempting to explain. They were informed that their countrymen -- their appointees -- were being attacked, were issuing repeated cries for help, and, if nothing were done to intercede, were likely to be killed. Knowing this, and knowing, further, that they had at their disposal the most powerful military in the world, no risk of personal harm, and many subordinates prepared to leap into action at their word, they blithely walked away from the desperate men pleading for their help, and carried on with whatever they happened to be doing that night.

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1 posted on 05/15/2013 3:46:00 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

“Walking home one evening, you hear men across the street shouting for help, as they are in the process of being overwhelmed by a gang of thugs. You walk away, unconcerned with their cries or the sounds of bats smacking down on their flesh. You do not call the police or volunteer any assistance. You go to bed and sleep well. The next day, and each subsequent day, you carry on with your life of fun, friends, and self-indulgence, never giving a second thought to the men who died because you did not care to help. If a neighborhood reporter asks you about the crime, you put on your gravest voice and say, “Gosh, that’s so sad; I hope they find the creeps who did it.”

That is what Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did on September 11 and 12, 2012, and what they have continued to do in the months since. God save a nation in the hands of men and women with souls of this nature.”


2 posted on 05/15/2013 3:48:02 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

If Obama had done anything other than go to bed we would hear about it from one of his sycophants.

Pretty sure that’s about all he did.


3 posted on 05/15/2013 4:02:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
The question is not what they were doing that night, but what they HAD been doing for months before.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


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4 posted on 05/15/2013 4:03:21 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: servo1969

WOW,could not have ever said it like this myself


5 posted on 05/15/2013 4:04:03 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: servo1969

Excellent, powerful article.

I hope Hillary lives to eat those words - in jail. And Obama, whose idea they probably were, can join her.


6 posted on 05/15/2013 4:04:53 AM PDT by livius
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To: servo1969

Obama was probably with his butt buddy.


7 posted on 05/15/2013 4:09:11 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Venturer

His whole strategy is to make it look like he had nothing to do with anything. It’s the plausible deniability strategy. He probably did go to bed, but he had left orders and also knew the approach that they were going to take in order to plausibly avoid helping these men: the “nobody here but just us chickens” meme, with nobody around to make the big decisions, etc. Going to bed, or at least appearing to do so, was all part of the strategy.


8 posted on 05/15/2013 4:09:54 AM PDT by livius
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Ping.


9 posted on 05/15/2013 4:10:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: servo1969

I think Barack Obama might have been snuggling with Reggie Love.


10 posted on 05/15/2013 4:12:44 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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11 posted on 05/15/2013 4:12:45 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: servo1969
Really, really good article - calls Obama & Hillary what they are, as evidenced by their actions (or lack thereof) .... MONSTERS.

Knowing this, and knowing, further, that they had at their disposal the most powerful military in the world, no risk of personal harm, and many subordinates prepared to leap into action at their word, they blithely walked away from the desperate men pleading for their help, and carried on with whatever they happened to be doing that night. They let other men suffer unto death without lifting a finger to help, or even indicating a moment's regret for their inaction after the fact.

12 posted on 05/15/2013 4:13:00 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: servo1969
And for those who don't think a
Stalin's Russia or a Hitler's Germany could come to America, think what Obama might do if he had absolute power and could rid himself of those troublesome bitter clingers and other conservatives.
13 posted on 05/15/2013 4:14:33 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: servo1969

What a thoughtful and well-written set of thoughts.


14 posted on 05/15/2013 4:19:20 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: servo1969

obama, clinton and anyone that could have given orders to keep our guys safe (and did not) are ALL MURDERERS! obama is a murderer... hillary is a murderer... hell they all are. The obama administration should now be referred to a “MURDER, INC”.

LLS


15 posted on 05/15/2013 4:20:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Truth29

Here is a scarier thought... think of what tens of millions of heavily armed Americans that are fed up and sick of communists... think of what they might do should the Constitution be suspended and our government felled in a coup by obama... you think that Iraq was ugly? I pray this scenario NEVER happens. I love this Republic and I want it returned to what it was and what it must be by design... and I want it done at the ballot box... and not the ammo box. I am just saying...

LLS


16 posted on 05/15/2013 4:26:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: servo1969; Noumenon
This whole crew is made up of Killers Without Conscience.
17 posted on 05/15/2013 4:27:05 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: servo1969

Well thought out and well written.


18 posted on 05/15/2013 4:32:20 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: LibLieSlayer

It is a bit late for the ballot box. What. Was the quote about if you won’t fight when victory is sure and the contest easy...then you must fight when the cost is dear and victory almost impossible. We are rapidly approaching impossible.


19 posted on 05/15/2013 4:43:45 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: servo1969

They were disavowed.


20 posted on 05/15/2013 4:48:51 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: servo1969
Were they sleeping? Curled up by the fire with a good manifesto? Playing poker with Huma and the gang? Practicing jokes for a fundraising speech? Your guess is as good as mine.

My guess is that Hillary was passed out from drinking too much. My guess is that's how she goes to sleep every night.

21 posted on 05/15/2013 4:49:21 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: servo1969

What, exactly, was Obama doing that night? The President dies not just disappear!


22 posted on 05/15/2013 4:52:27 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: servo1969

Well stated. And just to add another more disturbing element to your analogy, Ambassador Stevens was supposedly a friend to both of them; if they are this disinterested and unconcerned about saving a “friend’s” life, just think how little these two evil, vile, soulless scumbags would do for the millions of our citizens they don’t know. Behold, the progressives, communists, and socialists that comprise the Demonic Party shows its true colors...


23 posted on 05/15/2013 4:52:54 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: livius

Our President is not much of a President, and not much of a man either.

People who read my posts know what I think of this effeminate, Jackass.


24 posted on 05/15/2013 4:53:38 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Hoodat

Excellent article ping!


25 posted on 05/15/2013 4:56:04 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: servo1969

Good article. It describes a bit of how I feel about those “running the show” in Washington these days.


26 posted on 05/15/2013 5:03:51 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Terrific article at AT. This gets to the heart of the matter, avoiding the Talking Points distraction.


27 posted on 05/15/2013 5:22:18 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: servo1969
Like Jonah Goldberg's article @ Townhall.com ... Benghazi's Smoking Guns ... this article doesn't get distracted by talking points or minutiae. It answers the question ... 'What Difference Does It Make?'

Hopefully, the Congressional investigation will similarly focus on what's important.

28 posted on 05/15/2013 5:30:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Venturer

SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 < 7:28 pm EST or earlier : (WHITE HOUSE : OBAMA SPEAKS ON THE PHONE WITH NETANYAHU FOR ABOUT AN HOUR... [ACCORDING TO FREEPER “lack-of-trust “THE CALL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EARLIER, AT 3 AM TEL AVIV TIME , BUT WAS LATE ])

SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 7:28 pm EST [1:28 AM BENGHAZI TIME] : (WHITE HOUSE : TIMESTAMPED PHOTO IS TAKEN OF OBAMA LISTENING TO ADVISOR MCDONOUGH SPEAK [NOT IN SITUATION ROOM] ...)


29 posted on 05/15/2013 5:48:39 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Servant of the Cross

There’s more good stuff on the net today than almost any day I can remember. There’s an astounding piece at Slate that I’m about to post.


30 posted on 05/15/2013 5:53:16 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: servo1969

By far, one of the best articles I’ve read on AT in a long time. Really makes you think (doesn’t it) on many levels. Great line - “Progressivism, socialism, Marxism — call it what you will — is an authoritarian strategy masked as a political theory.”


31 posted on 05/15/2013 5:53:31 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Venturer

Corrected :

SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 < 7:28 pm EST or earlier EST [before 1:28 AM BENGHAZI TIME SEPTEMBER 12] : (WHITE HOUSE : OBAMA SPEAKS ON THE PHONE WITH NETANYAHU FOR ABOUT AN HOUR... [ACCORDING TO FREEPER “lack-of-trust “THE CALL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EARLIER, AT 3 AM TEL AVIV TIME , BUT WAS LATE ])

SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 7:28 pm EST [1:28 AM BENGHAZI TIME SEPTEMBER 12] : (WHITE HOUSE : TIMESTAMPED PHOTO IS TAKEN OF OBAMA LISTENING TO MCDONOUGH SPEAK [NOT IN SITUATION ROOM] ...)


32 posted on 05/15/2013 5:56:15 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 ?after 5:15-20? PM EST ? [after 11:15 PM Benghazi time ] : (OBAMA PHONES NETANYAHU AFTER HAVING PREVIOUSLY BLOWN THE ISRAELI PM’S MEETING REQUESTS OFF?) To: riri He DID make time to phone up Netanyahu AFTER panetta’s visit though. Didn’t he? Lies and damn lies. Ain’t it odd? Biden was there. There are pics of it. Right in the THICK of Benghazi. WTF???
151 posted on Thursday, February 07, 2013 5:01:18 PM by MestaMachine | To 117
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And they said Netanyahu never requested a meeting at the White House either.
22 posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:02:50 PM by Rebelbase | To 1
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To: TBBT “There’s no intelligence indicating that the attack in Benghazi was premeditated.”
Of course there wasn’t. Obama REFUSED to take Netanyahu’s REPEATED requests for an hour long conference with Obama in the week leading up to the attacks. He likely had pertinent leads/credible reports from their very capable intelligence gatherers. In addition, Obama and his appointees have no intelligence. So, between these two facts, how could there be ‘any intelligence indicating’ that there was an impending attack???—————33 posted on Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:06:44 PM by nicmarlo


33 posted on 05/15/2013 6:01:17 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Well, he had a meeting with Panetta around 5 PM EST...

It lasted 15 to 20 minutes.

This would have been shortly after the end of the first attack. They may have assumed incorrectly that the attack was truly over, and maybe Obama decided to go to the powder room to prepare for the Vegas fundraiser.

A new attack was about to begin at the CIA annex at 5:30 PM EST or so that would last for 90 minutes:

SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 5:30pm EST to 7pm EST / 11:30 PM [Benghazi time] to 1 am Benghazi time SEPTEMBER 12, 2012 : (LIBYA : BENGHAZI : CIA ANNEX : FIGHTING )

SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 7pm EST / SEPTEMBER 12, 2012 1:00 AM [LIBYA TIME] : (LIBYA : BENGHAZI : A SECOND CIA TEAM ARRIVES AT THE AIRPORT IN BENGHAZI BUT HAS TROUBLE FINDING TRANSPORTATION TO LEAVE THE AIRPORT IN AN EFFORT TO FIND AMBASSADOR STEVENS)

SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 11:00 PM EST / after 5:00 AM Benghazi time SEPTEMBER 12, 2012 : (LIBYA : BENGHAZI : AFTER BEING HELD UP AT THE AIRPORT, THE SECOND CIA TEAM ARRIVES AT THE CIA ANNEX IN A LULL IN THE FIGHTING ; ALL THE SURVIVING AMERICANS ARE HOLED UP THERE)

34 posted on 05/15/2013 6:22:31 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: servo1969
This entire sordid affair started around 4 PM Eastern Time. In other words, "everybody" in the USA was at work and ready to proceed with a workable plan and rescue.

It was not the middle of the night, or bedtime. It is simply not believable the Commander in Chief went to bed. This was a major crisis and all hands were on deck. Washington was awake and people from all agencies were at work and involved.

It is also not believable there was "no time" to deploy help from several places in Europe or the Med. Forces were available. In the midst of a crisis, one has no idea how long it might last or how it will end. This one could have gone on for a couple of days, with the Annex under siege. So, if that was the possible case, then when and under what conditions Washington plan to make a rescue attempt?

It appears the Benghazi outpost was deliberately left to die - all of them, not just the four who died.

Why?

This is either criminal incometence or something far worse. It is little wonder they want to sweep it under the rug and "move on".!

35 posted on 05/15/2013 6:42:42 AM PDT by Gritty (The Constitution's purpose is to insulate personal freedom from a lust for power-Judge A. Napolitano)
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To: servo1969
In the first months after the Benghazi attack, the most urgent question, and one only rarely asked, was "What were Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton doing during the seven and a half hours between the initial emergency communications from Benghazi and the final American deaths?"

Yet that is not the most important question, which is 'What was the purpose of the attack?'

This was about weapons to supply Brennan's illegal war in Syria. That issue elevates Zero's actions from feckless incompetence to malice.

36 posted on 05/15/2013 6:54:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Gritty; servo1969
It appears the Benghazi outpost was deliberately left to die - all of them, not just the four who died.

Why?

This is either criminal incometence or something far worse. It is little wonder they want to sweep it under the rug and "move on".!

If you have read what Admiral James Lyon is saying you have a clear and logically answer to your WHY!!!

37 posted on 05/15/2013 6:55:37 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

Do you have a link for Admiral James Lyon?


38 posted on 05/15/2013 7:51:36 AM PDT by geologist ("If you love me, keep my commands" .... John 14 :15)
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To: livius

What was little barry bastard boy doing? ... Well, this time he didn’t even vote present! And he is what the democrips have become, treacherous to America and Americans. He uses the IRS to empower his political campaign, he uses the Justice Department to go after his opposition voices, he uses Islam to attack Israel, he directs lies to be broadcast to the people and the press dutifully comply, he and his gaggle of professional democrip liars ... well, by now why in God’s name have We The People not gotten it? This sonofabitch and his hench devils are the enemy wihtin the gates and the fifth column (read media fools) is mounting an assault to end our we the people sovereignty.


39 posted on 05/15/2013 8:00:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

bkmk


40 posted on 05/15/2013 8:13:10 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: DuncanWaring

Yes, yes they are.

There is only one way to deal with them.


41 posted on 05/15/2013 8:15:44 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: wastoute

You do not need to worry about me... if it happens then I will answer the call of Lady Liberty. Until then... I will use the tools that the Founders and GOD have given to us. America is worth fighting against impossible odds... for it was by overcoming impossible odds that our Republic was born.

LLS


42 posted on 05/15/2013 8:21:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
Look for something horrendous, aimed at distracting the press off of little barry bastard liar's criminalities and onto an event.

Allow me to quote someone who identifies these moves: "Whatever it is, this false flag event needs to be visually and emotionally shocking. So expect children to be sacrificed as part of it. Nothing grabs headlines on CNN faster than the blood of children, and that’s what Hilary Clinton needs right now more than anything else: a powerful, revolting distraction from her own abject criminality.

And believe me, these people would order a thousand children killed if it was necessary to save their political careers. Have no illusions about the kind of power-addicted monsters who are running the U.S. government today. There is nothing they won’t do to weasel out of being caught in a devastating lie."

43 posted on 05/15/2013 8:43:18 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: servo1969
Benghazi - The Hillary Timeline

8:00 PM - Hillary Clinton calls Gregory Hicks.

10:00 PM - WH: Obama Called Hillary at 10PM on Night of Benghazi Attack. February 20, 2013

10:38 PM - Hillary Tweets apology for "anti-Mohammed video" from Cairo Twitter account.

44 posted on 05/15/2013 8:56:55 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: MHGinTN

I pray the CIA has turned on the lot of the Demonicrats and will expose them if/when they try to orchestra such a thing. I don’t doubt they are capable of trying though!


45 posted on 05/15/2013 10:19:10 AM PDT by boxlunch (private school/homeschool mom)
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To: Wendy44

Wendy, here’s the article I mentioned.


46 posted on 05/15/2013 10:22:50 AM PDT by livius
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To: MHGinTN

I saw that he’s now blaming the Treasury Dept. Good grief. How much longer.


47 posted on 05/15/2013 10:23:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Thanks for the ping, great article.

Something I’ve been wondering—the CIA has their own rapid response teams (at least they did at one time) ready to hop on a plane, just like DoD teams, all over the world. Where were they that night? What happened to them? Or maybe that was the group that actually went and the DoD group wasn’t allowed to go with them? I don’t know. If the agency could send their team in, why couldn’t the military? If there was no agency team, why not?


48 posted on 05/15/2013 10:40:39 AM PDT by Wendy44
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To: servo1969

“Dereliction of Duty “ should be the impeachment charge.


49 posted on 05/15/2013 1:18:36 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: MHGinTN

Beslan - The Sequel?


50 posted on 05/15/2013 2:58:36 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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