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Tesla’s Model S Is Shaming BMW and Mercedes
Wall St. Cheat Sheet ^ | May 14, 2013 | Justin Lloyd-Miller

Posted on 05/14/2013 7:17:46 AM PDT by grundle

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To: Obadiah

The Roadster and the S are beautiful and fun to drive cars. They are also completely unreliable — hobby cars for guys with 3- and 4-car garages who already have a luxury sedan and SUV for daily driving for the family.


21 posted on 05/14/2013 7:48:05 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: Mamzelle
"Musk really just wants money to support his SpaceX boondoggle, all the while pretending that SpaceX is private and not taxpayer-funded."

SpaceX is at least as "private" as Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, General Dynamics or any other government contractor.

As to "boondoggle", SpaceX is the only private entity to resupply the Space Station, as well as retrieve cargo. They've achieved robotic docking, which is impressive. They're also well on their way to having a manned vehicle, which will supply an alternative to the Russian Soyuz.

SpaceX's flight manifest has a high percentage of orders from private entities, including quite a few international orders. That's due to SpaceX having a high success rate, while providing by far the lowest cost per pound to orbit.

SpaceX is doing great, and making the old guard aerospace companies look like the hidebound dinosaurs they are. That kind of innovation is to be applauded.

22 posted on 05/14/2013 7:49:19 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: grundle

Rick Sharp, former CEO of Circuit City and CarMax, has brought his Tesla to our house - impressive, but not interested. He was one of the original Tesla investors. He is also a Porsche fanatic and has a whole stable of them.

I’ll stick with the Porsche Cayman myself, you can keep your Bimmers, Mert’s, Audi’s. Just need to upgrade from the Cayman base to a newer S model.....


23 posted on 05/14/2013 7:53:14 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Mamzelle
Elon Musk is best buddies with Obama and the whole progressive elite oligarchs.

Like it or not, many successful entrepreneurs are liberals. Keeping them out of government should be the goal.

(Obama and Musk are both African Americans.)

24 posted on 05/14/2013 7:53:49 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“And I would choose a Tesla why?”

One possible reason would be that it would smoke your diesel performance-wise. :-)

For me, having a nuclear powered car would be a factor - but in fact my next purchase will likely be a diesel as well. However, all of us freedom loving conservatives support more freedom of choice as well, I’m sure.


25 posted on 05/14/2013 7:54:19 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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Tesla is the next Delorean.


26 posted on 05/14/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Yeah, but look at that S car go!


27 posted on 05/14/2013 7:54:58 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PreciousLiberty

I wish I had bought some stock about a month ago.


28 posted on 05/14/2013 7:57:00 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obama; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: JohnBrowdie

The Tesla S is only comparable to 7 series beemers and S class mercedes in price. By size and luxury it is much closer to a 5 series beemer or E class mercedes. No mention of the sales numbers for the “apples to apples” comparison.


29 posted on 05/14/2013 7:57:33 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: PreciousLiberty
SpaceX is at least as "private" as Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, General Dynamics or any other government contractor.

Agreed. That's comparing apples to apples. Spacex is a tremendous entrepreneurial and technological success.

On another note, it's ironic how many small government FReepers want to go back to Uncle Sam's blank check space program of the 1960's.

30 posted on 05/14/2013 7:57:43 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: detective

There is a simple solution tot he ‘bricking’ problem: a sensor which casues a complete disconnet of the car from the battery if the charge level gets to a preset ‘low’; the sensor would also cause, at the preset low, the drive train to completely disconnect from the systems as soon as the vehicle reached zero motion.


31 posted on 05/14/2013 7:57:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Moonman62
Like it or not, many oligarchs are successful because they buy US presidents and use our money to fuel their ambitions, while also using our money to keep the real entrepreneurs (the ones who expect to make it on their own) out of business.

We'll see about the Tesla. A lot of rich people who want to fly in space want the Tesla to succeed. I'm suspicious of positive press unless a disinterested party puts it out. And I'm particularly suspicious of Consumer Reports. They can be bought pretty cheap.

32 posted on 05/14/2013 7:59:13 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Gay State Conservative
"as opposed to the Tesla's 10 1 hours at any one of dozens of stations."

There, fixed that for you.

Read the part about "superchargers".

If you install a 240 volt circuit in your garage, a full 300 mile charge takes five hours. Unless you sleep less than that, it shouldn't be a problem.

33 posted on 05/14/2013 8:00:26 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: grundle

Elon Musk is a genius, pure and simple. PayPal, SpaceX and now Tesla. Don’t bet against him.


34 posted on 05/14/2013 8:00:35 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Moonman62

How about Freepers who want to forget the whole manned space travel thing, as only a personal indulgence for rich space tourists? Let those tourists pay for their own tours. Why should I care if some oligarch wants a ride? Why should I pay for it?


35 posted on 05/14/2013 8:01:25 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Rio

I suspect as much. I have followed it closely, and it might be an innovation, but Musk works too hard at massaging the media for me to really believe in it. He’s creating a legend about himself as some kind of warrior hero, and then using it to get people’s money. This thread here is like Kickstarter...


36 posted on 05/14/2013 8:04:04 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: PreciousLiberty
re: private entity to resupply the Space Station, as well as retrieve cargo. They've achieved robotic docking, which is impressive)))

Why bother to restock? The Space Station is worthless, pointless, useless except as a potential hotel for the rich and self-indulgent. Let's give it to the Russians and forget the whole thing. Right now we're paying to fly American *cosmonaut* passengers to the SSI to do--what? Repair the Space Sation? For what, more repairs? The Space Station was always pointless, useless, worthless. It is in low orbit, and has not gotten men one inch farther into the solar system.

We have private rockets to manage satellites, which do provide an essential service and product.

We do not need manned space travel. You may need it, may long for it, but I don't want to pay for it.

37 posted on 05/14/2013 8:09:11 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
"I suspect as much. I have followed it closely, and it might be an innovation, but Musk works too hard at massaging the media for me to really believe in it. He’s creating a legend about himself as some kind of warrior hero, and then using it to get people’s money."

He's created three successful companies so far. That is a far cry from a confidence scheme... Knowing how to promote your company is important for any CEO.

He could have quit and lived an idle life of luxury after selling PayPal. I'm glad he's had the drive to push technology forward instead.

As soon as SpaceX is publicly traded, I'll invest.

38 posted on 05/14/2013 8:10:14 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: cableguymn
BTW I am surrounded by BMW and Benz cars daily

In LA one can't be a true Armenian teenager without one.

39 posted on 05/14/2013 8:10:28 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: grundle
Tesla is not just some peddler of electric cars, but a center of engine innovation and production:

In addition to its own cars, Tesla sells electric powertrain systems to Daimler for the Smart EV and Mercedes A Class, and to Toyota for the upcoming electric RAV4. Musk was also able to bring in both companies as long term investors in Tesla. (MarketWatch.com)

40 posted on 05/14/2013 8:13:21 AM PDT by montag813
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