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How Mail 'printed' first plastic gun in UK using a 3D printer- and then took it on board Eurostar
The London Daily Mail ^ | May 11, 2013 | Simon Murphy and Russell Myers

Posted on 05/13/2013 3:35:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Mail On Sunday today exposes the massive international security risk posed by a gun that can be easily made with new 3D printers.

We built the weapon, which is capable of firing a live round, from blueprints available on the internet – then smuggled it on to a packed Eurostar train.

Two reporters passed completely unchallenged through strict airport-style security to carry the gun on to a London to Paris service in the weekend rush-hour, alongside hundreds of unsuspecting travellers.

The pistol, capable of firing a deadly 0.38-calibre bullet, was produced in under 36 hours using a revolutionary £1,700 machine to ‘print’ its components. And because all the parts are plastic, they did not trigger the metal detectors all Euro-star passengers must pass through.

Last night, the train operator began an urgent investigation into the security breach as experts called for airports and public buildings to review their procedures in light of our revelations.

The Mail on Sunday pieced together the 16-part pistol – called The Liberator by its creators – after downloading the designs. They were originally published by an American university student, who proved the design works by successfully firing a bullet on a shooting range....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: 3dprinters; 3dprinting; banglist; europe; guncontrol; secondamendment; travel
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How Mail On Sunday 'printed' first plastic gun in UK using a 3D printer- and then took it on board Eurostar without being stopped in security scandal
1 posted on 05/13/2013 3:35:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hate to tell them that you don’t need a 3D-printer to make these things. Anyone can do it with basic hand tools.

The government is always fighting the last war.


2 posted on 05/13/2013 3:37:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“capable of firing a ‘deadly’ .38 caliber bullet...”

Does anybody know of a bullet that’s not “deadly?”


3 posted on 05/13/2013 3:38:17 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now much of a worry if it’s .38 caliber. Heck, what’s that a 1/10th of a millimeter?

But mockery aside, talk about a tempest in a teapot. Considering it has a metal firing pin, you just put up the gain on the detectors and viola.


4 posted on 05/13/2013 3:39:00 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The bit of trouble is that the IslamoNazis couldn’t build a transistor radio without Western technology.

But they can buy a 3D Printer, computer, and make one of these.

Sometimes “back to the stone age” seems like such a good idea.


5 posted on 05/13/2013 3:39:36 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mandatory BB Guns for 10 Year Old Boys would solve most of America's problems.)
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To: Gen.Blather
Yes.


6 posted on 05/13/2013 3:40:39 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mandatory BB Guns for 10 Year Old Boys would solve most of America's problems.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real “international risk” lies in governments afraid of armed citizens.


7 posted on 05/13/2013 3:41:50 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why didn’t they try to take the plastic gun on board with bullets?

Isn’t it illegal to have a handgun in England? Why are these criminals not in custody then?


8 posted on 05/13/2013 3:42:50 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Uncle Miltie

They’re going to have to segregate the airlines. Muslims restricted to certain flights only. Trouble is, they probably wouldn’t be able to get pilots to fly them. Not even Muslim pilots.


9 posted on 05/13/2013 3:43:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A "deadly" .38 caliber bullet. That's MUCH worse than a normal .38 caliber bullet.

I see the printer they used cost 1700 British Pounds. They get that down to a grand and I'm in for one. Not because I need more firearms. I don't. Because it pisses off all the right people.

10 posted on 05/13/2013 3:44:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: drbuzzard

.380 is about 9.6 mm. Halfway between a 9mm and a 10 mm. Nothing to scoff at.

But further to your point, it does not appear that any ammunition was brought with them. Sorta a false test.


11 posted on 05/13/2013 3:46:00 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Uncle Miltie

They can buy cars and rent Ryder vans and hijack planes. So we should stop DESIGNING CARS OR BUILDING PLANES?

And they can steal guns or buy them from criminals / communists.

SO REGISTER MUSLIMS, NOT GUNS OR 3D PRINTERS.


12 posted on 05/13/2013 3:46:21 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: drbuzzard

.38 caliber - ain’t that about the size of a hypodermic needle?


13 posted on 05/13/2013 3:46:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Hate to tell them that you don’t need a 3D-printer to make these things. Anyone can do it with basic hand tools.

But, that reality doesn't fit well with the narrative that this criminal administration wishes to push upon us. Five bucks and a 10 minute trip to Lowes would provide a plethora of improvised firearms. Remember: we need the gov't to protect us from ourselves. /s

14 posted on 05/13/2013 3:48:54 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I learned to make a gun at about 6 years old at the hands of a delinquent teenage uncle with fireworks, a hollow steel table leg, and the head of a big bolt that fit inside the table leg.


15 posted on 05/13/2013 3:48:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DuncanWaring
.38 caliber - ain’t that about the size of a hypodermic needle?

Yup!

16 posted on 05/13/2013 3:49:31 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: drbuzzard

Kicking up detecter sensitivity enough to detect a metal firing pin would cause it to alarm on everybody’s zippers and metal buttons. And the firing pin could be ceramic.


17 posted on 05/13/2013 3:49:49 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Hold the pig steady)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
WOW....a nifty new way to make a Zip Gun (from the 40's and 50's), using a Computer instead of a pencil and paper....

We've come Sooooooooooooooo far.....

18 posted on 05/13/2013 3:51:06 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: taxcontrol

The article said .38 caliber. That is a redundant statement in that caliber is by definition 1/100 of an inch. Hence a 45 caliber gun fires a projective of .45 inches. As such a .38 caliber gun is .0038 inches in bore.

I was mocking the Brits for their customary gun ignorance.

I am reasonably sure the liberator shoots something like a .38 special or 380 also known as 9mm kurz (both of which have a bore size right around .355 inches).


19 posted on 05/13/2013 3:52:53 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: taxcontrol

I think they had no ammo. Their Brits ya know


20 posted on 05/13/2013 3:53:12 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Billthedrill
A "deadly" .38 caliber bullet. That's MUCH worse than a normal .38 caliber bullet

Yeah, was it a .38 Special or a.38 Colt short or long? Or maybe a 38 S&W?

21 posted on 05/13/2013 3:53:53 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess that all the other ways to kill passengers on a crowded train are not as “deadly” as a gun capable of shooting a “deadly 0.38-calibre bullet”. I suspect that the reporters would have been just has hyperbolic had the gun only been made to shoot a 0.22-calibre bullet.

But how do we expect collectivists who grew up in a society where the law hardly allows for the use of deadly force in self-defense and forbids the private ownership of handguns to view liberty? It scares the organic refuse out of them. As a result of government tyranny, they only know firearms in the hands of police and those who are at war with government or society.


22 posted on 05/13/2013 3:54:04 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
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When In Trouble Or In Doubt Run In Circles Scream And Shout!!

23 posted on 05/13/2013 3:54:15 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Yes, I suppose that’s fair enough. Oh well, I guess they better get to panicking.


24 posted on 05/13/2013 3:55:01 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Nope, even a bb can kill.

So can a softball.

Aimed projectiles cause damage, a majority of scientists agree on this!


25 posted on 05/13/2013 3:56:43 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

More likely a .380 auto cartridge.


26 posted on 05/13/2013 3:56:55 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Uncle Miltie

I bet you some child somewhere has shot one of those down his throat or some thing like that and...

Life is fragile.


27 posted on 05/13/2013 3:57:38 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Dunno, but I bet they hollowed it out so they could pour extra deadly in.


28 posted on 05/13/2013 3:58:09 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: theBuckwheat

Just by pure coincidence today, my daughter and I went shooting at a private range. She was trying out a Ruger Security Six for home defense. I had a handful of old .38 Special wadcutter rounds that we burned through just so she could get comfortable with the feel of the gun. Then I gave her some real .357 SWC rounds to try. A noticeable bump up in power, even though the hole size is the same.


29 posted on 05/13/2013 4:00:26 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It’s so special when the press wants to become part of the criminal element! Criminals do not have to print a one shot plastic gun! They can buy 20 Glocks or whatever on the street!
HAs the word reporter become synonymous with IDIOT!


30 posted on 05/13/2013 4:00:47 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No one does knickers in knots quite the same way as the English.


31 posted on 05/13/2013 4:04:52 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is more deadly on a crowded train? A plastic gun that can fire 2 or 3 times, or a ceramic knife?


32 posted on 05/13/2013 4:05:21 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They made plastic ammunition?


33 posted on 05/13/2013 4:05:30 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ok, you can take one on a train. What can you reasonably accomplish with a single shot pistol on a train? Doubtful you could hijak it if there was a sealed door between you and the crew. Kill someone? Yes, you could kill one person, then get subdued by other passengers. It doesn’t seem capable of destroying a train or bringing down the British train system. What’s to panic about?


34 posted on 05/13/2013 4:05:52 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: theBuckwheat

The entry hole might be the same size but I bet the exit wounds look a bit different :-) Good on you for getting your daughter prepared.


35 posted on 05/13/2013 4:08:25 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Lurker

They made plastic ammunition?

Case less Ammunition.Will a metal detector detect Lead Ball?I’ll have to test that out.


36 posted on 05/13/2013 4:09:16 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i hope these guys don’t find out about ceramic knives...


37 posted on 05/13/2013 4:24:35 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: taxcontrol

The bullet Dia. of the 380acp pistol round is the same as the 9mmLuger .355.


38 posted on 05/13/2013 4:34:14 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank God most of the commenters see through this stunt.


39 posted on 05/13/2013 4:38:55 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear what is unlawful.)
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To: Gen.Blather
Does anybody know of a bullet that’s not “deadly?”

Well. Not The Mail

Introducing the world's smallest gun that fires deadly 300mph bullets - but is just TWO inches long

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40 posted on 05/13/2013 4:40:55 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Uncle Miltie
TSA - No Nerf Gun Sign - Yes, it's for real.
41 posted on 05/13/2013 4:46:21 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

using “FR privilege” and not reading the linked article :), I wonder if all they did was bring a gun-shaped hunk of plastic aboard the train. No bullet, no cartridge, no metal firing pin ... was it really functional? Was there a test firing of a clone to see if it was a gun or just a gub? (with apologies to Woody)


42 posted on 05/13/2013 4:49:36 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: riverrunner
The bullet Dia. of the 380acp pistol round is the same as the 9mmLuger .355.

.355 is the calibre, (ie the bore) of the 9mm Short and the 9mm Parabellum. The actual bullet diameter is .356".

43 posted on 05/13/2013 4:51:52 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Gen.Blather

.25 ACP? Unless very carefully aimed...not likely if launched with a Raven...


45 posted on 05/13/2013 4:55:48 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (It's been over 90 days; time to start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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To: DuncanWaring

Nope. It’s 38/100s of an inch.

(Please excuse the accidental FReepmail.)


46 posted on 05/13/2013 4:58:19 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (It's been over 90 days; time to start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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To: DuncanWaring

.38 caliber - ain’t that about the size of a hypodermic needle?


Actually, “.380 ACP” (Automatic Colt Pistol) is the proper designation. The bullet has a diameter of 0.355”


47 posted on 05/13/2013 5:09:31 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: drbuzzard

And the viola is used for what? A musical interlude before the shooting starts?


48 posted on 05/13/2013 5:11:00 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Yehuda

SO REGISTER MUSLIMS, NOT GUNS OR 3D PRINTERS.

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Good idea!


49 posted on 05/13/2013 5:12:18 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Mushroom Gravy

In any event, it’s “.380”, not “.38 caliber”.


50 posted on 05/13/2013 5:13:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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