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Jury hung on two counts in Philadelphia abortion trial
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Posted on 05/13/2013 8:39:42 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Jury hung on two counts in Philadelphia abortion trial

ReutersBy Dave Warner | Reuters – 48 mins ago

By Dave Warner

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A Philadelphia jury in its 10th day of deliberations told the judge on Monday that it was hung on two counts in the murder trial of a doctor accused of killing babies and a patient during late-term abortions at a clinic that served low-income women.

Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 72, who ran the now-closed Women's Medical Society Clinic, could face the death penalty if convicted by the jury in Common Pleas Court in Philadelphia.

The seven-woman, five-man jury, after taking the weekend off, resumed deliberations at about 8:30 a.m. and sent out a handwritten note about 90 minutes later.

The note said it was hung on two counts, according to one of the attorneys in the case.

Gosnell is charged with four counts of first-degree murder for delivering live babies during late-term abortions and then deliberately severing their spinal cords, prosecutors said.

He also faces charges that he performed 24 abortions after 24 weeks. It is legal in Pennsylvania to abort a fetus up to 24 weeks into a pregnancy.

In addition he faces charges of conspiracy and more than 200 counts of violating the state's informed consent law for abortion which mandates a 24-hour waiting period.

The jury heard five weeks of testimony and has been deliberating since April 30.

Gosnell's defense contends there is no evidence the babies were alive after they were aborted.

Testimony depicted a filthy clinic, serving mostly low-income women in a largely black community.

Gosnell is also charged with murdering Karnamaya Mongar, 41, of Virginia, who died from a drug overdose after going to him for an abortion, prosecutors said.

Gosnell has been in jail since his January 2011 arrest.

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I had a feeling this would happen. First they should have moved the trial out of Philadelphia.........
1 posted on 05/13/2013 8:39:42 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Wonder how many jurors are grappling with the hell they put their preborn child through...
2 posted on 05/13/2013 8:41:21 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Sub-Driver

find on 1 count and hang him.


3 posted on 05/13/2013 8:41:23 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Sub-Driver

Yep, O.J. verdict.


4 posted on 05/13/2013 8:41:29 AM PDT by Blogatron (Death to islaam)
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To: Sub-Driver

what is the racial make up of the jury? that is far more important than the gender make up


5 posted on 05/13/2013 8:43:26 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Blogatron

“Yep, O.J. verdict.”

Racism on the part of blacks will continue, and intensify unless there is resistance.

A predominantly black jury will rarely convict a black defendant.


6 posted on 05/13/2013 8:43:31 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Sub-Driver

omg seriously. This man is Josef Mengele... hang him.


7 posted on 05/13/2013 8:43:38 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Sub-Driver

Likely low information voters or possibly a free Obama phone recipient on the jury. My bet is Gosnell will get off with some minor infractions and will lose his medical license, but not much else.


8 posted on 05/13/2013 8:45:11 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Sub-Driver

As long as they’re agreed on the capital counts, let’s press on.


9 posted on 05/13/2013 8:47:19 AM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: Sub-Driver

They requested to review the testimony regarding the baby born alive who was swimming in the toilet. My guess is that they are hung on the capital counts. They’ll convict on the petty stuff but he’ll walk on the more serious charges.

Lord have mercy on this nation. How far we have fallen.


10 posted on 05/13/2013 8:49:30 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: Sub-Driver

If they are hung on just two counts, he must have been found guilty on a great number of the others.

If I was the judge, I’d accept the verdicts already reached no later than tomorrow. That would give the prosecutor the option of retrying if he is by some perverse miracle found not guilty on most of the counts.

It could be that the prosecutor alleged multiple crimes for the same conduct. If so, a jury would be correct to disregard those stacked charges.


11 posted on 05/13/2013 8:49:49 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: The Great RJ

If the jury is black any conviction will be for minor offenses. However, don’t overlook the post trial book deals, the talk show circuit and maybe even a movie. He could end up a millionaire.


12 posted on 05/13/2013 8:49:49 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Sub-Driver

Because using scissors to snip the necks of babies swimming in toilets is so confusing.


13 posted on 05/13/2013 8:52:38 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mandatory BB Guns for 10 Year Old Boys would solve most of America's problems.)
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To: Sub-Driver

outside the cities Pennsylvania can be quite conservative.

seems like they had the trial where the liberal city dwellers could do the most bad.


14 posted on 05/13/2013 8:54:26 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

He already is a millionaire. This asshat made upwards of $15,000 killing babies and selling narcotics prescriptions. He’s a menace to society & should be executed.


15 posted on 05/13/2013 8:55:32 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: brownsfan

RARELY? How about NEVER! It’s all about “payback” for past “racism” against all Blacks!


16 posted on 05/13/2013 8:56:20 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Sub-Driver
Can't they see the lie it is to snip the spine of a (dead) baby. I hope this doesn't end up with minor charges. This should be a judgment for the nation as a whole by protecting babies born alive.
17 posted on 05/13/2013 9:02:17 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Wonder how many jurors are grappling with the hell they put their preborn child through...
I've thought about that too. I'm sure there are no pro-life jurors, and the ones who state they are non-committal, are in fact, pro-choice. Because your can't be tepid on life.
18 posted on 05/13/2013 9:04:45 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: bert

no comment.........


19 posted on 05/13/2013 9:09:20 AM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Wonder how many are hung up on the color of Kermitt’s skin? If I remember right that is what the defense pushed.


20 posted on 05/13/2013 9:11:22 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Sub-Driver

How anyone can have any doubts about this monster’s guilt is beyond me.


21 posted on 05/13/2013 9:12:20 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: bert
what is the racial make up of the jury? that is far more important than the gender make up

The racial makeup of the victims would probably mirror the racial makeup of the jury. It's not like he was catering to a white, middle-class clientel.

22 posted on 05/13/2013 9:13:52 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: brownsfan
A predominantly black jury will rarely convict a black defendant.

Not even when all the victims are black as well?

23 posted on 05/13/2013 9:14:50 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Sub-Driver; Uncle Miltie
"...at a clinic that served low-income women."

Reuters.

How about "at a clinic that overdosed, hacked, and horrendously injured poor, mostly black pregnant women, with some of their babies being poisoned or smashed in the womb, and some decapitated afterwards." "Served." Reminds me of the cartoon of the cannibals with the banner, "We serve humanity."

24 posted on 05/13/2013 9:17:22 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He will come on that Day to judge the living and the dead, and the world by fire.")
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
If the jury is black any conviction will be for minor offenses.

Most, if not all, of the babies were also black so really it should not matter; they should be as horrified as if it was a white jury with white babies.

25 posted on 05/13/2013 9:18:50 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Sub-Driver

Blech, people are so brainwashed. How could there be a hung jury? So they approved of babies swimming in toilets trying to survive? Soulless.

yeah, I know it is how convinced they were—beyond a shadow of a doubt.


26 posted on 05/13/2013 9:19:08 AM PDT by madison10
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To: brownsfan
A predominantly black jury will rarely convict a black defendant.

That may well be true, but I live in the Philadelphia area and am friendly with many Black Philadelphians. I can tell you the name Gosnell is synonymous with the Devil. Young, old, Obama lovers all (or most), it doesn't matter. Gosnell's seen for the evil that he is.

27 posted on 05/13/2013 9:21:15 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: 0.E.O

“Not even when all the victims are black as well?”

Since I chose my words carefully, I didn’t expect to have a moron respond.

RARELY - seldom - infrequently - uncommonly

That would indicate it does in fact happen. If I had used the word “never”, then you could approach my post from the direction you took. Since I used “rarely”, you could just attempt to prove you have some deficiencies in open forum.

Congratulations, your mission is accomplished.


28 posted on 05/13/2013 9:21:17 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: old and tired

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled “Jury hung on two counts in Philadelphia abortion trial”

old and tired wrote: “That may well be true, but I live in the Philadelphia area and am friendly with many Black Philadelphians. I can tell you the name Gosnell is synonymous with the Devil. Young, old, Obama lovers all (or most), it doesn’t matter. Gosnell’s seen for the evil that he is.”

Perhaps. But from what I’ve read and heard, it’s difficult to comprehend the jury being hung for any reason, other than saving a brother from the man.


29 posted on 05/13/2013 9:23:55 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan

Well, there were more than 200 counts, right? Being hung on two of them doesn’t seem like that big of a deal to me.


30 posted on 05/13/2013 9:37:33 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: bert

8 Black, 8 White, half male, half female (12 plus 4 alternates).


31 posted on 05/13/2013 9:43:16 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

i would guess seven of them are.


32 posted on 05/13/2013 9:44:12 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: old and tired

“Well, there were more than 200 counts, right? Being hung on two of them doesn’t seem like that big of a deal to me.”

I guess we’ll find out when it’s all done? You could well be right. I’m not in Philly, so I don’t really know. I’m working with what I see go on around NE Ohio, and national reports.


33 posted on 05/13/2013 9:44:15 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: redangus

most of the babies he murdered were his own skin color.

how bout blacks geting pissed at that fact?


34 posted on 05/13/2013 9:46:24 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 0.E.O

see then some of the blame has to fall on black mothers who let him murder their babies.


35 posted on 05/13/2013 9:47:29 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: brownsfan
Since I chose my words carefully, I didn’t expect to have a moron respond.

When I woke up this morning I didn't expect to be exchanging posts with a moron. But things seldom turn out as you expect them to.

36 posted on 05/13/2013 9:49:24 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Sub-Driver

Should have only taken an hour — GUILTY!!!


37 posted on 05/13/2013 9:49:28 AM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: morphing libertarian
find on 1 count and hang him.

Hang him? Yah,right.You wanna know what will happen if he's convicted? A Rat governor will receive a petition on hardship grounds claiming that this serial killer is deathly ill and will grant the petition.Kinda like Doctor Death...who,it was claimed,was at death's doorstep when he was released on compassionate grounds (by a Rat governor)...managed to last 4 years.

38 posted on 05/13/2013 9:52:29 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: 0.E.O

“When I woke up this morning I didn’t expect to be exchanging posts with a moron. But things seldom turn out as you expect them to.”

It’s ok. When you prove yourself to be less than intelligent, it’s human nature to respond with the charge that the person exposing you has the same deficiency. It’s a defense mechanism. Your lack of insight, creativity or basis for your charge is quite telling.

I’m sorry to stress someone with such a weak constitution.

Enjoy your day as much as you’re able.


39 posted on 05/13/2013 9:55:20 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan

It’s anybody’s guess. I just read the latest and the story in today’s Inquirer is ambiguous. It says the jury is hung on 2 counts, but that 250 counts remain. 250 counts remain for what? For deliberation? It’s unclear.


40 posted on 05/13/2013 10:07:58 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: brownsfan
Gosnell Found Guilty

You were saying?

41 posted on 05/13/2013 12:22:03 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

“You were saying?”

I’ll start by saying I am aware I was making an observation that could have been wrong in this case. I did note that by word choice, and even more explicitly with this post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3018797/posts

You, however, seem to be intent on finding new ways to display your deficiencies. Your lack of self awareness is much like that of a liberal.


42 posted on 05/13/2013 12:32:01 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: CedarDave

Well, whatever the racial composition of the jury the fiend was convicted.


43 posted on 05/13/2013 2:11:02 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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