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Wider Problems Found at IRS
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 12, 2013 | JOHN D. MCKINNON and SIOBHAN HUGHES

Posted on 05/12/2013 7:53:56 PM PDT by Innovative

The Internal Revenue Service's scrutiny of conservative groups went beyond those with "tea party" or "patriot" in their names—as the agency admitted Friday—to also include ones worried about government spending, debt or taxes, and even ones that lobbied to "make America a better place to live," according to new details of a government probe.

The investigation also revealed that a high-ranking IRS official knew as early as mid-2011 that conservative groups were being inappropriately targeted—nearly a year before then-IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman told a congressional committee the agency wasn't targeting conservative groups.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; conservativegroups; corruption; criminalgovernment; governmentabuse; govtabuse; irs; irs4communism; irs4dnc; irs4islam; irsasdnctool; irsbrownshirts; irsteaparty; irstreason; irsunleashed; irsvsconservatives; irsvsgop; irsvsisrael; irsvsjews; obama; obamacare; specialprosecutor; taxes
And this is just the tip of the iceberg...
1 posted on 05/12/2013 7:53:57 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Obama may have gone too far this time.


2 posted on 05/12/2013 8:14:34 PM PDT by Arthurio
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3 posted on 05/12/2013 8:18:00 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Innovative
Yet another government agency that is out of control.

Here comes the, "sloppy, sloppy, sloppy" excuse again from the communist 'RATS.

4 posted on 05/12/2013 8:18:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: Innovative
We need a special prosecutor to investigate this.
5 posted on 05/12/2013 8:19:06 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: Arthurio

I still don’t trust this. The timing is just too strange what with the Benghazi junk getting tense. Is it an attempt at distraction from something worse or closer to ostoner?


6 posted on 05/12/2013 8:19:33 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101
I still don’t trust this. The timing is just too strange what with the Benghazi junk getting tense. Is it an attempt at distraction from something worse or closer to ostoner?

Agreed. What in the world have they done now that they are trying to hide?

7 posted on 05/12/2013 8:24:40 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Sequoyah101

If this is the distraction, it means Benghazi is even worse than it sounds.


8 posted on 05/12/2013 8:25:33 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Innovative

Leaks on a Sunday. Somebody is spinning furiously. Looks like the plan is to throw Ms. Lerner under the bus and try to cap the scandal there.


9 posted on 05/12/2013 8:27:49 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: beef
We need a special prosecutor to investigate this.

I second that.

10 posted on 05/12/2013 8:28:08 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Innovative

Certainly they went too far.
This was not the work of one operative.
This was a Conspiracy aimed against Conservatives.

No one person could have done this alone.
It took someone high up to arrange it and be sure it operated.

Anyone involved should be prosecuted. They knew it was against the law.

Either Obama ordered it or someone took it on themselves and that someone helped to guide others into this.
Who is willing to go under the bus for this so Obama can skate? How many will go under?


11 posted on 05/12/2013 8:29:32 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Jeff Winston

The spokesidiot couldn’t even answer the basic question of when the WH was aware of this on Friday.


12 posted on 05/12/2013 8:29:44 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Innovative


13 posted on 05/12/2013 8:31:31 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Sequoyah101
I agree, and even opined the same thought a few days ago. (Great minds, and all that.)

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14 posted on 05/12/2013 8:32:14 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Innovative

“We don’t care. We don’t have to care. We’re the IRS, dammit.”


15 posted on 05/12/2013 8:33:29 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Stillwaters

Ping to help you catch up when you get back


16 posted on 05/12/2013 8:40:41 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Sequoyah101; Seaplaner; mickie; flaglady47
Please don't get distracted by worrying this IRS business is a planned distraction from Benghazi.

The IRS revelation is growing because of one main thing....the whistleblowers in other government departments will begin coming out of the D.C. woodwork like an army of 7-year cicadas....and the Benghazi testifiers have paved the way.

It's like the dike in Holland, one hole opened up last week.....and even a latter-day heroic Little Dutch Boy won't be able to stick his finger in the Benghazi opening to stop the pent-up flow of scandals bursting out from other administration rat holes.

Leni

17 posted on 05/12/2013 8:51:06 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: BipolarBob

It’s a diversion from Benghazi.
1/2 of Americans pay no income taxes.
Dems know this can’t hurt them, because their constituents don’t care.
In fact, they’re happy to see us discriminated against.


18 posted on 05/12/2013 8:57:19 PM PDT by melt (Someday they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Innovative

Time to go to a flat-tax with no deductions. It will ensure everyone pays something and has a stake in the system. Will prevent gaming and corruption by politically-connected companies.

Will allow everyone to prepare taxes on one page form, and we can fire 90% of IRS staff.


19 posted on 05/12/2013 9:01:24 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: MinuteGal
MG writes...the whistleblowers in other government departments will begin coming out of the D.C. woodwork like an army of 7-year cicadas....and the Benghazi testifiers have paved the way.

I believe that you are correct; and that much of this is pent up righteous response against corruption, and that it derives energy from other fellow would-be-whistle-blowers.

I also suspect that Congress and federal judges might be more likely to immunize earlier (rather than later) testimony.

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20 posted on 05/12/2013 9:03:40 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Innovative

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ways-and-means-irs-provide-all-communications-containing-words-tea-party-patriot-or


21 posted on 05/12/2013 9:07:53 PM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: Innovative
I'm certain they have been targeting conservative individuals as well - especially small business owners.
22 posted on 05/12/2013 9:08:33 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: MinuteGal

I’d like for you to be right and have thought the same thing, that people who know would begin to talk. We may not know but surely believe that some people know lots of incriminating things. They have to be afraid to risk talking.

I thought the poor guys in Justice who stuck their necks out on fast and furious and got left hanging out to dry, or so it seems to me, would cause others to be very reticent about talking. Issa made all that noise and it has gone to court in an administration and justice dept delaying action.

This IRS and Benghazi thing have to grow legs with the press and get some support for others to stick their heads above the parapet. It could happen. Maybe people are getting sick of being played for fools and lied to. They have been such fools up until now I don’t have much confidence in any of them.


23 posted on 05/12/2013 9:10:16 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Mr. Jeeves

And what ever became of the persecution of conservative car dealers who were forced out of business in 2009?

NOT A THING.


24 posted on 05/12/2013 9:12:32 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Innovative

This may be as serious as Watergate. If Obama knew about this even a year ago, it’s worse than Watergate.


25 posted on 05/12/2013 9:15:18 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama Denied ->Americans Died ->Hillary Lied ->the Media Complied.)
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To: Innovative
Yep. They're trying damage control now. The IRS was getting information about individuals. "Many groups say they were asked for lists of their donors and other sensitive information." There's more.


26 posted on 05/12/2013 9:31:21 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Innovative

When are the impeachment hearings?


27 posted on 05/12/2013 9:50:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Innovative
The investigation also revealed that a high-ranking IRS official knew as early as mid-2011 that conservative groups were being inappropriately targeted...

Without a name and specifics this info is worthless.

28 posted on 05/12/2013 10:14:06 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Innovative
"Ms. Lerner came to the IRS in 2001 from the Federal Election Commission, and assumed her current position in 2006. "

Well now, isn't that an interesting connection . . .

29 posted on 05/13/2013 3:00:40 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Venturer
This was not the work of one operative.

Typical Obama administrative solution to a major political headache in 2011 and 2012.

30 posted on 05/13/2013 3:40:58 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: IncPen

This affair reminds me of Clinton escapade with the FBI files


31 posted on 05/13/2013 3:43:33 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Innovative
—to also include ones worried about government spending, debt or taxes, and even ones that lobbied to "make America a better place to live,"

Obviously these people are insane.


32 posted on 05/13/2013 3:45:16 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Sequoyah101
I still don’t trust this. The timing is just too strange what with the Benghazi junk getting tense.

A suit by Mark Levin's group, The Landmark Legal Foundation, prompted this. The suit was forcing the Inspector General to look into this.

Even FOX won't mention this.

For complete info, you can listen to Friday's Mark Levin Show podcast.

33 posted on 05/13/2013 3:47:34 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: MinuteGal

I agree with you. There’s a lot of pent-up anger even among government employees at the abuse of our system by the ideological, dictatorial Obama regime. A lot of them, however, were simply too afraid to complain. But now that people are coming forward on Benghazi, the other people who have been misused and abused by the Obama regime have gotten the courage to speak up.


34 posted on 05/13/2013 4:03:38 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

If this is indeed true, and it appears as if there is more than just smoke here now, it is terrible for the country because it means the tenacles of lib politics have gotten inside every government agency including the agency with only one political appointee, maybe two now, the IRS. That means these people are acting like our islamic enemies, that is, you never know when one of them is going to go off on their own. In all these agencies now, there are cells of libs and lib sypathizers who operate much like the old commie party. Rooting them out is going to be extremely difficult and there is no Joe MaCarthy here to do it. A good indication of how bad it is can be seen by just following the voting paterns around DC, those counties vote heavily for the democraps and coincidently they are the highest paid per capita in the US....kind of like having your hand in the cookie jar and locking the kitchen doors.


35 posted on 05/13/2013 5:02:26 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: beef
We need a special prosecutor to investigate this.

That would be us. WE need to take these bastards down.

OUR GOVERMENT IS THE ENEMY!

36 posted on 05/13/2013 5:10:41 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I have been quite vocal since bozo was elected, and re-elected, through various channels, and they have been harassing me of late....not sure if there is any correlation, however.


37 posted on 05/13/2013 5:14:19 AM PDT by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Mouton
kind of like having your hand in the cookie jar and locking the kitchen doors.

Exactly. It's going to be hard to get the employees to turn on The Won, because when the government is the distributor of all largesse (and civil service jobs pay an average of 20% more than the same jobs in private industry), it becomes desirable to these people to make the government bigger and stronger all the time.

I think it's possible that there are some ethical people who are a little ashamed at having been compromised, and it's also possible that there are some who are afraid because they have seen what the government can do to someone when it turns on them for one reason or another, and they may feel that going public now is the best way of protecting themselves.

I hope so, at least, because we are seeing the development of a massively corrupt and oppressive government that cannot be allowed to continue in this direction.

38 posted on 05/13/2013 5:19:54 AM PDT by livius
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To: Venturer

Start looking at the union....

Colleen M. Kelley, president of the National Treasury Employees Union, said their support of Obama was never in question, as union members believe that Obama “has stood with federal employees 90% of the time.”

Kelley, a former IRS Revenue Agent, was first elected to the union’s top post in August 1999, after a four-year term as national executive vice president. She was overwhelmingly re-elected to a fourth term in August 2011.


39 posted on 05/13/2013 5:24:38 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: Mouton

Ping to post 39.

Google this gal and Obama, you just might hit a jackpot!


40 posted on 05/13/2013 5:26:50 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: EBH

I never knew there was a National Treasury Employees Union.

I don’t know what I was thinking?

Of course that is the place to start.

Obama and Unions are thick as thieves.
Which is rather apparent isn’t it?

That’s another problem with Unions and their election money.


41 posted on 05/13/2013 5:31:13 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

2008
Federal employee groups step up political efforts as fall elections approach

http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2008/07/federal-employee-groups-step-up-political-efforts-as-fall-elections-approach/27241/

NTEU had been working on nonpartisan voter registration efforts before the union formally endorsed Obama, but President Colleen M. Kelley said NTEU would be organizing local endorsements for Obama, running education efforts and turning out union members to vote and participate in campaign events. She said the union would target Colorado, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia.

“NTEU chapters around the country are gearing up their efforts to help NTEU secure a ‘pro-federal employee’ president,” Kelley said.

Here’s some fun for you too... http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.php?ind=P04&cycle=2012

Personally, I think we need to take steps to stop this kind of contribution from within federal unions.


42 posted on 05/13/2013 6:44:23 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: Nailbiter

yeah, and who paid any price for that?


43 posted on 05/13/2013 6:45:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: EBH

Actually, when one looks at the open secrets link it clearly shows just how socialist our government truly is on the inside!

And quite frankly, it scares me. From that one link I conclude there is no longer anyway for the average citizen to have honest dealings with any part of the Federal Government.


44 posted on 05/13/2013 6:48:31 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: EBH

There is already a law against it.

It’s called the Hatch act, but it appears that it has become another law Obama decided to ignore.

He ignores some laws and makes others doing pretty much whatever he wants to do.

I guess it must be OK though because the Congress and the Supreme Court both ignore his shenanigans.


45 posted on 05/13/2013 7:19:56 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I heard Mark discussing this the day it happened. Strange coincidence though that the IRS IG would finally come out the day after the Benghazi hearings.

I still don’t trust them.... never will.


46 posted on 05/13/2013 11:04:44 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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