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Amanda Berry had to give birth in inflatable pool (did ethnic solidarity protect the monster?)
NY POST ^ | 5/8/13 | DAN McLEOD

Posted on 05/08/2013 4:08:57 PM PDT by Liz

Chilling new details emerged about the hell house where Ariel Castro allegedly held, and brutalized, his terrified captives....the girls were fed through holes in the doors, and occasionally taken out in disguises...to the garage, the Clevelan Plain Dealer reported. They were often bound with ropes or chains. Castro reportedly played a wicked game, pretending to leave -- then attack whomever tried to open the door he intentionally left unlocked.

Police defended their handling of the case. "I believe with the information we were given that we executed as best as we could,” said Cleveland Commanding officer Thomas McCartney. “The tactics we used I will not question...... I think the Cleveland division of police has done a very good job."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: amandaberry; arielcastro; ginadejesus; kkk; klan; racistcrap
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ETHNIC SOLIDARITY POISON INJECTED INTO SHOCKING CASE---At this afternoon's Cleveland L/E press conference----AKA "The Original Amateur Hour"----Cleveland Chief Assistant Prosecutor Victor Perez made a point of injecting ethnic solidarity poison into the case which has shocked the nation. Perez took pains to say he was also Puerto Rican as is the monster Castro---and that this case does not reflect on Puerto Ricans here or in Puerto Rico.

ETHNIC SOLIDARITY GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD? L/E is also letting the two Castro brothers off with no charges claiming the girls did not implicate them. But the terrified girls had no way of knowing if Ariel's brothers aided and abetted the horrendous activities----perhaps providing ropes and chains. And whether Ariel bragged about his sex exploits with the girls to his brothers, as men like to do....which would make the brother co-conspirators in the horredous criminality perpetrated on the girls.

1 posted on 05/08/2013 4:08:57 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

Why did you post this?

The excerpt said nothing about the inflatable pool. So I clicked the article. It too said nothing about giving birth in an inflatable pool.

So I clicked the link in the article. That is where the story is.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/authorities_say_daughter_of_am.html#incart_maj-story-1

So why didn’t you just save us all some time and post from the original source?


2 posted on 05/08/2013 4:14:57 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why dont you learn how to read?

PARAGRAPH THREE-—NY Post-—
And the 6-year-old daughter of Amanda Berry was born in an inflatable pool......


3 posted on 05/08/2013 4:18:43 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Liz

Back in the days after my debriefing from the military, I dated a foxy sexy, sultry and very willing to explore gal who was from Puerto Rico. Things were wild and crazy at first. Then we had our first minor disagreement and from out of nowhere she pulls a knife similar to Crocodile Dundee. Thank God I was able to set her up with someone at a ‘’disco’’ we went to. I blame it on inbreeding. The entire family, even their dog, looked like each other.
From that day on I started dating gals of my own species.


4 posted on 05/08/2013 4:18:58 PM PDT by shadeaud (We need to learn to know what our enemies are truly creating)
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To: Liz

What is your point? Where do you see this ethnic solidarity? As far as the two other brothers not being charged, surely the authorities interviewed the women involved.


5 posted on 05/08/2013 4:19:27 PM PDT by clarkster
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To: shadeaud

LOL-—thanks for the realtime story.

A Crocodile Dundee-type knife?

My, my that musta been a shock.


6 posted on 05/08/2013 4:22:16 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Liz
I’m sure Geraldo will be on the scene soon.
7 posted on 05/08/2013 4:27:24 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Liz
I really hope that nobody hurts that innocent little girl.

It's not her fault that the sperm donor was a monster.
8 posted on 05/08/2013 4:30:27 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Liz
Victor Perez is an idiot.

Even if the girls have not initially implicated the brothers doesn't mean that they never had any involvement. The police can't hold the brothers further without good cause or evidence, which falls now to the crime scene investigators. One would expect that there is going to be DNA of one or more brother at the house, but the defense would counter that it is not unusual for the DNA of one relative to be at the house of another relative. An obvious alibi of a brother would be that even though he was at the house, the victims were either not present or they were silenced in another room. Without a direct implication by any of the victims, or reliable witness reports, prosecuting the brothers is going to be difficult. This is going to take a while to get to trial, and maybe something solid will come up on the involvement of others.

9 posted on 05/08/2013 4:31:12 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: shadeaud

ROFL!!


10 posted on 05/08/2013 4:32:38 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: clarkster

I was also appalled at the beastly, shifty-eyed state atty injecting race into the discussion as if someone from the press corps was asking the question. I was filled with contempt. It was as if he was playing the victim! But, then, he’s a lawyer. What can you expect from that kind?


11 posted on 05/08/2013 4:34:42 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: MacMattico

Geraldo Rivera— haw haw!! Maybe he’ll go back to being Jerry Rivers.


12 posted on 05/08/2013 4:35:42 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Enterprise
Victor Perez is an idiot. Even if the girls have not initially implicated the brothers doesn't mean that they never had any involvement.....

The police can't hold the brothers without good cause or evidence.... Yeah, right---the same cops who still "can't find" the call records---evidence thet they were called to the scene where horrific crimes were being committed......and did nothing.

In a crime of this magnitude, the possible charges would fill an encyclopedia.

Prosecutor Perez has amply shown he is not up to the task. His outrageous comments show he's concerned only with his own ambitions.....ethnic solidarity MUST prevail over justice.

This guy oughta be ushered to the door and kicked out.

13 posted on 05/08/2013 4:51:40 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Liz

I doubt one guy is responsible for it all. I find it hard to believe that others, relatives, didn’t know about it.


14 posted on 05/08/2013 4:53:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Liz

Only a fool or a White Guilt Liberal thinks that there is no ethnic solidarity.....code for racism...in the Hispanic/Puerto Rican community

Heck ....there are some now claiming the black guy did not help....it was a Hispanic that helped Berry out of the house


15 posted on 05/08/2013 4:59:03 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Mamzelle; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; sickoflibs; Grampa Dave; ken5050; The Mayor; NYer; ...
I was also appalled at the beastly, shifty-eyed Ohio state atty injecting race into the press conferernce discussion about the abductions..... as if someone from the press corps had asked the question. I was filled with contempt. It was as if the guy was playing the victim!

N-i-c-e take. Thanks.

Seemed to me Perez had been prompted to make the statement.....another clue to the ethnic solidarity cabal in our midst, meddling in US affairs, poisoning our political and justice system.

The topic of ethnic solidarity is extremely revelant now, more than ever---as the Congress attempts to shove amnesty down our throats.

16 posted on 05/08/2013 5:03:05 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Liz; GeronL
I'm also not convinced that the police are blameless here. I want to see something solid before I jump.

The crimes here could result is several life sentences if there is a conviction. If more people are guilty, I hope they share those sentences with Ariel Castro.

My gut feeling too, is that someone else had to know. Maybe not the whole story, but enough to tip off the police.

Just for curiosity sake, I wonder what the 2010 census taker found out about the house and its residents?

17 posted on 05/08/2013 5:03:25 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

In 10 years or more he never had visitors? His kids never stayed the night? No one ever knew or suspected something?

I really doubt it.


18 posted on 05/08/2013 5:05:30 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Liz

“The police can’t hold the brothers without good cause or evidence....”

I agree with this, If they can’t get a confession, they should just drive the brothers back to the hell house in broad daylight, open the back door and let them out. Explain to the neighbors that you just arent sure they knew there were 3 women and 5 kids in that little house for a decade.

Then drive away. I think about 5pm in the summer, on a weekday, would be just right.


19 posted on 05/08/2013 5:14:49 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Liz
Yeah, right---the same cops who still "can't find" the call records---evidence thet they were called to the scene where horrific crimes were being committed......and did nothing.

The call record doesn't exist, because the call was never made. Consider the source.

20 posted on 05/08/2013 5:19:39 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Enterprise

Good point about the census-—but the monster Ariel could have refused to give out info. And if the census taker asked the know-nothing neighbors——???????

Probably the welfare system knows a lot about who was living there.

Castro lived a decent lifestyle-—owned the home, had motorcycles, went clubbing....with no visible means of support. Got fired as a school bus driver.

Betcha he, his brothers (who live with the mother) use several identities to collect welfare, food stamps, get EITC refunds, probably UI, disability, and so on.


21 posted on 05/08/2013 5:20:01 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: DesertRhino

The neighborhood might not be hostile to them. Only to tbheir being caught.


22 posted on 05/08/2013 5:21:12 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Liz
whether Ariel bragged about his sex exploits with the girls to his brothers, as men like to do....which would make the brother co-conspirators

Take a deep breath - or three - Liz.

23 posted on 05/08/2013 5:23:21 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Piffle....)
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To: Liz

I say let the brothers go. Why, who could expect those two to know that there were three captive women and 5 kids in that cavernous home. Anyone could spend 10 years there and not notice it.

So just notify the families when and where you are releasing them.(just so you can keep them informed of course) Let all three of em go if you want.

It would be the best outcome.


24 posted on 05/08/2013 5:25:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Liz

Good point also. We are left to wonder if he received substantial assistance. Food stamps? Direct payments? Did he get checks at the house or did he get money electronically? Did his brothers get checks? Was a case worker ever assigned to make contact with him to do an inspection of his home? Of course, all this assumes that he gave his true ID information. But even if he gave false ID, what does the case file on that name show? If there are additional case files on other false IDs, what is in THOSE files? Did someone inspect the addresses of those names?


25 posted on 05/08/2013 5:30:42 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Liz
whether Ariel bragged about his sex exploits with the girls to his brothers, as men like to do....which would make the brother co-conspirators

Men like to brag about the women they have kidnapped and are holding prisoner for years? Do you really believe that?

Or do you believe that that is only something that "ethnics" like to do?

26 posted on 05/08/2013 5:42:04 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Enterprise

Knowing what we now know about the agencies, employees and inner workings of Cleveland govt-—does not appear that anyone there would have the brainpower to consider such questions.

As I posted earlier-—”The Original Amateur Hour” kinda sums it up.


27 posted on 05/08/2013 5:46:51 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

from what the perp’s son said, the 2 uncles are useless drunkards.


28 posted on 05/08/2013 5:51:21 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: DesertRhino
....why not just drive the brothers back to the hell house. Explain to the neighbors that "the cops just arent sure" the bros knew there were 3 women and 5 kids in that little house for a decade........

ROTFL....drop em off and tell the neighbors that?

O-o-o-o-o......That's gonna hurt.

29 posted on 05/08/2013 5:53:03 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

On O’Reilly tonight he asked if the brothers court appearance tomorrow involved a citizenship question. No one knew the answer.


30 posted on 05/08/2013 5:56:13 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Liz

Ha! The return of the acerbic Liz! Hi, girl.


31 posted on 05/08/2013 5:56:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Liz

I think we now know who was responsible for the flag swap on the front porch of that house.

Initial photos of Castro’s house clearly showed a Puerto Rico flag on display. Later the flag is replaced with an American flag.

Certainly with the house being the being the crime scene that it is, no one but police and detectives could have gotten on that porch to change that flag.


32 posted on 05/08/2013 5:57:40 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Hi (/sarc).


33 posted on 05/08/2013 5:58:21 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Liz

Kind if tiresome by now, that the taxpayers have to foot the bill for living expenses of kidnappers and bombers.


34 posted on 05/08/2013 6:00:36 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: visualops
"from what the perp’s son said, the 2 uncles are useless drunkards."

That makes them loyal Obama voters.

35 posted on 05/08/2013 6:02:29 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: diverteach
I'm with you on the copster thing---all the way---no question.

But Puerto Rico is a US possession----their flag does resemble a US flag.


36 posted on 05/08/2013 6:03:28 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: clarkster

Well, those mugs shots of the other two didn’t exactly spell out “Andy Hardy” to me. Perhaps they’re as innocent as the day is long but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were all as guilty as hell. And it ain’t got nothing to do with their being Puerto Rican. As a NYer, I’ve lived with Puerto Ricans my whole life. Those women were interviewed after being free for, what? Less than 24 hours? They need to be interviewed over time; right now they could all be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. And that wasn’t an ethnic remark!


37 posted on 05/08/2013 6:07:03 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Enterprise

Yeah, Bostonians are said to be up in arms WRT the Tsarnaev family welfare haul. Tamarlan was riding around in a snazzy silver Mercedes and wearing designer clothes-—and had the time and money to buy pressure cookers and build bombs-—thanks to taxpayers——who ended up legless, maimed and wounded.

Who knows about braindead Cleveland?


38 posted on 05/08/2013 6:09:41 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

On one of the news show this morning, a neighbor took a reporter on a tour of her house - which is a replica of the crime scene. Didn’t look too big to me - and the camera tends to enlarge space. Also, it’s what I would call a “railroad” design - no hallways, just one room leading into the next. They didn’t show the upstairs but the kitchen led directly to the cellar.


39 posted on 05/08/2013 6:13:20 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: MacMattico

Yeah-—Geraldo hasn’t opened any doors for a l-o-o-o-n-g time....and he’s Puerto Rican, too.


40 posted on 05/08/2013 6:14:11 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Liz

No, the flag was at first Puerto Rico, then clealy was switched to an American flag. Unmistakable!


41 posted on 05/08/2013 6:14:48 PM PDT by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Another possible alibi is provided per post #28. The brothers were described as useless drunkards. So, they could have been at the house and been drunk and passed out, and then kicked out in the morning.


42 posted on 05/08/2013 6:17:17 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: diverteach

Okay-—hadn’t seen the switcheroo. Thanks.

Mkes sense......underscores why an Asst Prosecutor was at a major press conference-—prolly hand-picked to push ethnic solidarity.


43 posted on 05/08/2013 6:19:59 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

For now I give the police the benefit of the doubt. Too easy to second guess right now. I hope the prosecutor can get these guys convicted without too much testimony from the victims. It won’t take very long before the inmates crucify these animals.


44 posted on 05/08/2013 6:22:02 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Enterprise

All three of them were probably useless drunks. Drunks, of course, can be very, very dangerous. Nothing worse than a mean drunk.


45 posted on 05/08/2013 6:22:07 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Liz
And whether Ariel bragged about his sex exploits with the girls to his brothers, as men like to do....

You got us, OUCH! Me and my brothers like to brag about our sexploits with the girls we abducted!

46 posted on 05/08/2013 6:23:50 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: miss marmelstein; Enterprise; diverteach

Drunkeness is bad business-—but the latest is that Ariel was a “poor defenseless” sex addict.

Yup.

Says in an earlier hand-written note-—it was the girls’ fault for getting into his car-—he just couldn’t control his impulses to have sex with young girls.


47 posted on 05/08/2013 6:26:48 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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48 posted on 05/08/2013 6:27:37 PM PDT by narses
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To: shadeaud

Keep your prejudices to yourself. My baby daughter has Puerto Rican genes and she is the most precious thing in the world.


49 posted on 05/08/2013 6:29:04 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: shadeaud
After she pulled the Crocodile Dundee knife on me, I started dating gals of my own species.

Dam good decision.

50 posted on 05/08/2013 6:33:10 PM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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