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Schumer backs Rep. Israel's call to halt plastic guns made using 3-D printers
Long Island Newsday ^ | May 7, 2013 | Bill Mason

Posted on 05/07/2013 11:04:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sen. Charles Schumer said Monday he is putting his full support behind legislation aimed at stopping the production of undetectable plastic guns that can be made using relatively cheap 3-D printers.

A Texas-based libertarian group has successfully been able to produce a functioning plastic handgun using a 3-D printer that anyone could purchase, Schumer said. He said the group plans to post on the Internet how to go about making this cheap, but functioning weapon that could pass through metal detectors at airports and elsewhere.

Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he is joining Rep. Steve Israel (D-Huntington) who has pushed for new legislation in this area.

"Right now, if you are a terrorist, you can buy one of these 3-D printers and make guns," Schumer said. If you are a felon, you can make these guns. It's perfectly legal. We have to stop this."(continued)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 3dprinters; 3dprinting; banglist; democrats; guncontrol; liberator; lping; newyork; schmuckschemer; schmuckyscammer; schumer; secondamendment; texas

There were no blacksmiths in the land of Israel in those days. The Philistines wouldn't allow them for fear they would make swords and spears for the Hebrews. ~1 Samuel 13:19

1 posted on 05/07/2013 11:04:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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>> “Right now, if you are a terrorist...” Schumer said.

Who is “you”, and what about later? Such a brilliant individual.


2 posted on 05/07/2013 11:10:48 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You could make a plastic Chucky Schumer and it would still be smarter than the human one.


3 posted on 05/07/2013 11:12:14 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...undetectable plastic guns...” Undetectable. Wow. I gotta say I’m impressed.


4 posted on 05/07/2013 11:15:51 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The cat is out of the bag relative to 3d guns. No legislation will be able to prevent it. The gun control proponents will use this as a reason to tightly control ammunition.


5 posted on 05/07/2013 11:15:53 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They will have to ban most basic hand tools too, and confiscate a lot of everyday materials.


6 posted on 05/07/2013 11:17:46 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people are morons.

You can make a plastic, metal and/or wood gun with a few machine tools. Anyone determined to do so can do so right now. It doesn’t take a 3D printer.

So when are they going to start criminalizing knowledge?


7 posted on 05/07/2013 11:23:15 PM PDT by DB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Right now, if you are a terrorist, you can buy one of these 3-D printers and make guns,"

What frightens Chuck Schumer is not that a terrorist might make a gun, but that American citizens will certainly make guns.

8 posted on 05/07/2013 11:25:28 PM PDT by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“this cheap, but functioning weapon that could pass through metal detectors at airports and elsewhere.”

Didn’t they say the same thing about Glocks back in the 1980s? (well, except for the cheap part).

Also, aren’t bullets still metal? It seems to me that a plastic gun isn’t much use without a metal bullet.


9 posted on 05/07/2013 11:25:31 PM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...this cheap, but functioning weapon that could pass through metal detectors at airports and elsewhere.

Yeah, we're pretty much helpless, aren't we? Except if the good guys happen to be armed too. Then we're not helpless at all. And that is what Chuckie is really afraid of. BTT.

10 posted on 05/07/2013 11:33:31 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
'So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him.'

Bang.

11 posted on 05/07/2013 11:38:53 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are not undetectable you idiots.

There are plenty of metal parts in the damn thing from the barrel to the receiver and the spring at a minimum ...


12 posted on 05/07/2013 11:39:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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.50 caliber multiple firing..... :

http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/blog/tag/50-caliber-bullets/

It’s a Doozy!

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13 posted on 05/07/2013 11:45:12 PM PDT by devolve ( ------- I've gotcher magic bullet right here 0pansy ---------)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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- http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_powerful_.177_cal._air_rifle_available

.177 - and up

.50 caliber/500fps for deer or wild boar (Whooooosh!)

.25 caliber pistols

(You’ll shoot your eye out!)

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14 posted on 05/08/2013 12:07:23 AM PDT by devolve ( ------- I've gotcher magic bullet right here 0pansy ---------)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sen. Charles Schumer.......truly a worthless POS.


15 posted on 05/08/2013 2:21:13 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
You don't need a printer, this is the second rifle I built, it isn't from a kit. First one didn't amount to much, but this one is a keeper. I hunted with this one from 1981 until I couldn't hunt anymore. I still have this and a little .36 I made for daughter Mary's 8th birthday. It has brass and pewter hardware, never kept polished because it made the gun too visible to deer. . This one is built around an old lockplate I picked up for 50 cents, but lockplates are easy to make. With the gain twist barrel you can push a round ball really hard, ball would end up the size of a quarter under the hide on the far side, deer was always DRT!

If I had wanted to build a modern design I would have figured out a way, it is all just carving wood and metal. I suppose it would be a problem for Chuckie Schumer, he probably can't change a light bulb on his own.

You cannot regulate human intelligence and determination, they will always find a way, and tyrants always hang, sooner or later.

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16 posted on 05/08/2013 2:56:24 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Little Chuckie is always making weewee about something or other.

This week it appears his self-urination is over plastic guns.


17 posted on 05/08/2013 3:04:20 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Vendome

The barrel is all plastic from what I could see in the youtube video. I think the only metal part was the firing pin which was made from a common nail.


18 posted on 05/08/2013 3:53:51 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those felons and terrorists are known for abiding by the law.


19 posted on 05/08/2013 4:21:19 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

You need a “plastic” that can handle the 12-15000 PSI of the .45 Colt cartridge.
THEN you would really have something.


20 posted on 05/08/2013 4:45:41 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: fulltlt

How many times can the plastic barrel take a round before degrading?


21 posted on 05/08/2013 4:54:47 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People WILL NOT comply.


22 posted on 05/08/2013 4:57:05 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Absolutely right Sen. Schumer sir!
http://defcad.org/liberator/
Citizens should have access to such information.
http://defcad.org/liberator/
I’m certain you will be able to stop the spread of this nonsense with your new legislation.
http://defcad.org/liberator/
I can’t imagine who would even want to have such a thing.
http://defcad.org/liberator/
I mean, most people don’t even have the equipment to make use of such a file.
http://defcad.org/liberator/
Yet.


23 posted on 05/08/2013 5:47:21 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Vendome
"How many times can the plastic barrel take a round before degrading?"

Only one but the barrels are a quick and easy change out.

Watch the you tube video. It's pretty fascinating.

24 posted on 05/08/2013 6:02:23 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Schumer may as well have said, “Freedom? We must stop this...”


25 posted on 05/08/2013 6:08:31 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And this is the same Israel that dines with 0bama tonight in a hotel? Right....


26 posted on 05/08/2013 6:10:19 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Schumer is getting panicky; he knows he is high on the WTSHTF target list. He doesn’t want to be at risk from a plastic gun!


27 posted on 05/08/2013 6:25:19 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

             

28 posted on 05/08/2013 6:27:15 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Vendome

I read the barrel is good for 5-6 shots of .380. Then you throw it away and insert a new barrel. It’s designed to be easy to replace. I think barrels can be made in different calibers. But not big calibers. Yet. This was just a proof of concept model.

Knowing how the Internet culture works, it’s just a matter of time before someone designs a semi-auto version. Changes in design and materials will certainly bring bigger calibers into play. I can see someone developing a material specifically to print barrels that withstand high pressures. Watch and see how clever geeks and hobbyists are when presented with a challenge.


29 posted on 05/08/2013 6:27:41 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Vendome
They are not undetectable you idiots.

There are plenty of metal parts in the damn thing from the barrel to the receiver and the spring at a minimum ...

Normal productions guns would be. These are completely plastic except for a nail used for the firing pin. You're not gonna get more than one or two shots out of one of these things, max. The idea is similar to the 'liberator' we dropped into Europe during WWII. You use the disposable gun to get a real one from the occupying forces.

The description of the uprising in the Warsaw ghetto in the book "Unintended Consequences" is a really good description of this.

This is really just a stunt to prove it can be done. Like someone upthread said, it's not really even new. Anyone competent with machine tools can make something similar out of sheet metal and a piece of pipe. Personally I'd feel better using something homemade out of metal, but if it's all you have to get the tools, of liberty, plastic will do.

30 posted on 05/08/2013 6:40:06 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

You’re the best!


31 posted on 05/08/2013 7:31:39 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

schumer is an illiterate.

home made not-for-sale firearms ARE LEGAL.

they have been for decades.


32 posted on 05/08/2013 7:32:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Vendome
One metal part .. firing pin made from ground down nail.

Pretty good bet that a small piece of some type of common ceramic/composite rod could replace even that.

33 posted on 05/08/2013 7:36:34 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: onyx
A country boy CAN survive!

That rifle might have led to the divorce, Black Walnut dust from sanding gets in the air and turns everything sort of reddish, LOL, including the laundry.

I made 3 with Black Walnut then switched to Maple, but it was already too late!

34 posted on 05/08/2013 7:37:33 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: the_Watchman

ammunition is going to go the way of the tech dodo bird.

search you tube and find coil and rail guns. Thos just shoot a small slug. Those will become untraceable and the shapes infinit.

schumer is the environwako trying to ban wheels.


35 posted on 05/08/2013 7:39:42 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

LOL.
I love you, guy!


36 posted on 05/08/2013 7:40:24 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Flintlock

I don’t expect to see that, the .380 is probably pushing the limit.


37 posted on 05/08/2013 7:40:42 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: servo1969
The idiots should know by now that you don't tell an American he can't do something or that something is mandatory..
38 posted on 05/08/2013 7:43:59 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: longtermmemmory
Schumer is going to mess around and really piss people off.

Every time one of the idiots says "ban" another 100,000 people will sign on at NRA.

A lot of the new NRA members are democrats, lots of them believed Obama before the election, but they don't believe him now.

39 posted on 05/08/2013 7:49:14 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Jack Hammer

schumer is selling fear.

fear is all he has to sell. Fear he will make a law, so give him money to not make a certain law/vote.

Think about it. Schumer awards government contract. With home printing, the value of his contracts goes down. What if the army/navy/marines start printing parts needing fewer government contracts.

Schumer has been declawed.


40 posted on 05/08/2013 7:49:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DB

follow the money.

3d printing hurts schumers ability to legislate pork.


41 posted on 05/08/2013 7:58:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: onyx

You got to love chuck, no one has been killed by
these supposed weapons, but he want’s to ban them.
Senators have killed lots of people, can we ban them?

Hope the hearing today will be on the radio, I’ve
got a lot of running around to do.


42 posted on 05/08/2013 8:02:17 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

You make too much sense!

I just want to send F. Chuck Schumer to He// in the first hand basket I can make with the new printer.


43 posted on 05/08/2013 8:13:04 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: DB

Knowledge will soon be declared “thoughtcrime”..


44 posted on 05/10/2013 1:21:55 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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