Skip to comments.Alleged Auschwitz Death Camp Guard Arrested (93 Years Old)
Posted on 05/07/2013 12:31:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
A 93-year-old man who was deported from the U.S. for lying about his Nazi past was arrested by German authorities Monday on allegations he served as an Auschwitz death camp guard, Stuttgart prosecutors said.
Hans Lipschis was taken into custody after authorities concluded there was "compelling evidence" he was involved in crimes at Auschwitz while there from 1941 to 1945, prosecutor Claudia Krauth said.
Lipschis has acknowledged being assigned to an SS guard unit at Auschwitz but maintains he only served as a cook and was not involved in any war crimes.
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Head meet vice.
Just a cook? Is that what he calls it? Glad there is no statute limitations on murder.
He should claim to be a Muslim. The authorities will let him go and apologize.
Gay Muslim and he walks with a pension.
It happened a long time ago!
Am I missing something? Don’t we have people in office that break the law every day? The law applies to us not to them.
When reason fails....
Some cook - he never wondered about the lack of repeat customers???
Interesting how the Nazis always staffed these camps with 13,000 cooks and no guards.
Liberal dogma holds that the purpose of imprisonment is to rehabilitate the criminal.
Demjanjuk and this guy apparently led more or less blameless lives for decades after their WWII service. So it is not unreasonable to assume they had rehabilitated themselves.
The only group of criminals in the world that the left doesn’t feel compassion for are Nazis, so we go through the farce of trying lower and lower level and older and older “Nazi criminals.”
I suspect this is similar in motivation to the multiple hoax hate crimes we see. If your worldview is based on thinking or yourself as facing off bravely against evil, then you have to find some evil to face off against. Even if you have to invent it, or it’s a 93 year old ex-cook.
Meanwhile, with possible exception of some Khmer Rouge, none of the commies guilty of murdering at least 8x as many innocents as the Nazis are being put on trial.
Without further details the article says little, for example:
Auschwitz concentration camp was a *network* of concentration and extermination camps built and operated by the Third Reich in Polish areas annexed by Nazi Germany. It consisted of Auschwitz I (the Stammlager or base camp); Auschwitz IIBirkenau (the Vernichtungslager or extermination camp); Auschwitz IIIMonowitz, also known as BunaMonowitz (a labor camp); and 45 satellite camps.
Here is a map of the three Auschwitz main camps. The total area of the main combined central camps (not the satellite camps) is about 15 square miles.
There were over 7,000 General SS who served there over the 5 years they were in operation.
The camp commander of Auschwitz, as well as the senior camp officers and non-commissioned officers, were all members of the SS-Totenkopfverbande, or the SS-TV.
Administrative and supply SS personnel were assigned mostly to the camp headquarters at the Auschwitz I camp. Such personnel, many of whom were Waffen-SS members but not members of the SS-TV camp service, were usually “out of the way” of the more horrific activities of the camp.
So, if this guy was a guard in a death camp - and they can prove it - what are they going to do to him?
Put him in a maximum-security nursing home?
Nazi hunters.... give it a rest already.
Yes, and Auschwitz death camps were a long time ago.
But seriously, at 93, what are they going to do to him now?
Hanging his ass is too good for him if he is guilty.
How many guards from Stalin’s death camps have been tried? Zero.
Yep. "All I did was run the ovens..."
Wish these people would put as much research into the Obastard administration as they put into this.
How many jap’s that had Americans in their or vietnam were ever tried?
I agree with you 100%. If guilty, help him up the steps and let him hang.
For all those who think we should just leave him and others like him alone; how many others didn’t get a chance to live another 65 years because of his actions?
Around 5,000 Japanese were convicted of war crimes after WW2.
I agree, there are a lot of people who should have been punished, and weren’t. But that’s hardly an excuse not to punish this person. (If he is, in fact, guilty)
I agree, and I have NO tolerance for Nazis, Commies, or dictators and their goons.
WWII ended 68 years ago. They are gonna have one hell of a time convicting him, and then what?
He’s 93; likely won’t live to see the end of the court wrangling.
I’ll say it again: give it a rest, already.
Just this last Saturday I visited Buchenwald in Germany. It was a very moving experience. You could feel what happened there. We must never forget and I don’t care how long it has been or what these people may have done between then and now to “redeem” themselves: they must be punished. An example must be made of them. What they did was unforgivable.
” But seriously, at 93, what are they going to do to him now?”
Take his dentures?
What? Eye witness testimony???? Even the chief hunters of the Nazi's , the Israeli Supreme Court let Demjanjuk go based on the value of “eyewitness” testimony and the probability that the Soviet's played hi-jinks with identity cards.
I went to my 30 year high school reunion a couple of years ago and you know what? After telling my most fond remembrances of my high school career, I had 2-3 guys tell me I was mistaken about details of stories and even in fact of some of the people that were supposedly involved. I was later proved wrong. Just about as often as my classmates were wrong when relating their most beloved memories.
“Memory is deceptive because it is colorized by today's events” Authored by Albert Einstein but nobody seems to remember exactly when or if.
Well, the reason is the Nazis lost their war.
The Chinese Commies and Soviets are really very much in power.
Maybe they led exemplary lives because there was no huge Nazi Party to join. Or maybe they were mainly concerned with saving their own putrid lives. I can’t believe you are calling Nazi hunting a farce.
And for those who are saying “give it a rest,” Never Again.
Dude, I'm not Jewish and I don't really have a dog in this hunt, but really: go to Germany or Poland and look at the facilities, look at the ovens, look at the blood-stained carts for corpses, look at the hundreds of pictures. Walk the earth where this happened and feel the souls.
Then tell me to give it a rest.
“But seriously, at 93, what are they going to do to him now?”
How about whatever he did to 93 year olds back in his day?
If his Lipshis, my arse whistles!
Yea, there would have to be compelling evidence of something he specifically did or he would have to have been in pretty high leadership, imho. Just being there is not enough.
Trying to convict every hoodwinked foot soldier just because is not a precedent to set, else everyone who has served in the US is at risk if the wrong sorts come to power.
You don't have a dog in this hunt?? You must be joking. Your page says you live in Seattle, are you a U.S. citizen? Because more than 400k U.S. citizens lost their like in World War II, and more than 670k wounded. You may want to parse out casualties from the Pacific, but I say B.S. to that. Besides which, Nazi Germany stood for everything your alleged country is against. I could go on, but why bother. Also, I don't know anything else about you, but I bet if I did, I could tell you many other reasons, "you DO have a dog in this hunt." If you really believe, "you don't have a dog in this hunt," then maybe you should renounce your U.S. citizenship and move to Switzerland. A neutral American. Pfft.
I was just deflecting the "you're Jewish (I'm not), so you're hypersensitive about the Holocaust" argument. Of course I have a "dog in the hunt" from the perspective of America vs. the Nazis in WWII!! Relax, Francis, I'm on your side!
Clearly Truman lost WWII since we are still engaged in catching the perps.
Or does only such logic apply to Bush?
Maybe he was there to provide abortion services. Safe, legal, rare, you know the kind.
As background, the Waffen-SS were front line troops. Some of those divisions were conscripts (examples like Prince Eugen, 15th SS Grenadier (1st Latvian)). If you were Germanic in countries outside of Germany, many were conscripted into these SS divisions. Those divisions served on the front lines the entire war. If you were unlucky enough to be wounded, you frequently were sent to be camp guards while you either recuperated prior to rejoining your unit or never recuperated but could still serve.
So your choice was to die to avoid being conscripted or serve, and if you survived combat on the losing side and were wounded, you could choose to die instead of being a camp guard - these guards were generally used outside the camp on the perimeter. Pretty hard choices for a poor 21 year old farm hand from romania, lativa, etc.
Humans have a very strong survival instinct and many can and do things, that sitting in our homes in comfort seem easy to say no to.
Not saying what this guy did was ok, not saying he should be forgiven, but folks here should at least understand the situation. None of us know what we would do in such situations if we have never faced them - and I for one, have fortunately, not yet, faced such things in my life. If I ever do, I hope I measure up.
Introduce him to his new roommate...
Was this guy wounded at the front lines?
I’ll take a lethal injection, please....
One thing that struck me as I viewed the museum at Buchenwald was that the typical age of the guard at the camp was ~19. The Nazis purposely recruited young men from lower class groups into the SS guard ranks. Easy to warp their minds.
And then hopefully he will suffer for a few years before he dies.
If you actually knew what you were talking about, you would know Nazis have been hunted and convicted since WW2, right up and including the last few years.
You think because someone has evaded justice for decades that they should be let off?
The conviction rate is high for Nazis, the evidence has been extremely well documented over the years....
This guy was 21 and a nobody camp cook in 1941. I’m not sure this theory that “anyone who was there in any capacity is culpable” hasn’t descended to the level of witch hunt.
entleer Zyklon B ins Abflußrohr
so schnell möglich weglaufen
Maske aufziehen; tief, langsam atmen
empty Zyklon B into drain
run away fast
take off mask; breathe deeply, slowly)
“The only group of criminals in the world that the left doesnt feel compassion for are Nazis, so we go through the farce of trying lower and lower level and older and older Nazi criminals.”
Indeed. Soon, they’ll all be gone though, and then just watch the Simon Wiesenthal wannabes start trying to go after people in Israel or the Bush admin for “war crimes”. They certainly aren’t going to fold up shop once the last Nazi is dead, any more than the civil rights movement ended when segregation did.
A camp cook? For the prisoners? That didnt take much time out of his day.
An important point. At this time, I doubt if anybody who was actually in a decision-making capacity in the camps is still alive. All we have left are people who were young conscripts at the time.
Soon even they will have passed on, and the Nazi hunters will have to find new jobs.
Let me spell it out for you veerrry slowly.
Nazi hunting is a farce when they track down 93 year old men, who may or may not have been cooks, but were almost certainly not movers and shakers or policy makers.
And especially when policymakers and actual killers and torturers for an ideology that killed many times more innocents have nobody at all hunting them, or seeing a need to.
Perhaps a mathematical analogy will help.
Group A killed X people, so group A is bad and everyone who was ever connected with group A must be tracked down and punished in a show trial.
Group B killed at least X*8-12 people, but we’ll just ignore its members. In fact, it continues to be a respectable ideology.
Now does that make any sense?