Posted on 05/05/2013 6:35:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Excuse me, Barack Obama actually said “the United States,” but the headline would be more accurate. While the President told an audience in Mexico that “Most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States,” he somehow forgot to mention that thousands of them came specifically under the auspices of the ATF and the Department of Justice during his first term (via Real Clear Politics):
And we also recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States. (Applause.) I think many of you know that in America, our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms, and as President I swore an oath to uphold that right and I always will. But at the same time, as I’ve said in the United States, I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common-sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people. That can save lives here in Mexico and back home in the United States. It’s the right thing to do. (Applause.) So we’ll keep increasing the pressure on gun traffickers who bring illegal guns into Mexico. We’ll keep putting these criminals where they belong — behind bars.
Really? So what’s going on with the investigation into Operation Fast & Furious? Last we heard, the Attorney General of the United States was obstructing Congressional access to materials related to the ATF and DoJ operation, even in the face of Congressional subpoenas and a contempt of Congress citation. Those firearms were used in hundreds of murders in Mexico and at least two in the United States, but so far Obama’s own Cabinet official won’t cooperate in the investigation into how the administration put those weapons into the hands of those criminals.
Michael Ramirez puts the disconnect between Obama’s rhetoric and actions in its proper perspective:
Well the guy’s a lying liar and why are we constantly shocked and angered that he has lied yet again? He lies constantly about everything.
Yep - he meant that he and Holder were responsible for arming them. The government is the only entity that can make that much of a difference in moving that much armament across any border.
What? No way king hussein lied. About anything. Ever. Just ask him. If he’s busy on the links you can always ask jo jo biteme for a straight answer.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Heh, heh.
obama logic
the guns in Mexico come from us
we bad
the drugs in America come from Mexico
we bad
That logical inconsistency has been going on for years: With guns, supply (U.S.) creates the demand; yet with drugs, demand (U.S.) creates the supply. The only consistency with that position is, the U.S. is always to blame.
Even WITH the F&F scam guns, I'm sure that's not a true statement. It's based on the old "90% of the guns which were traced", but since full auto's originating in China or wherever are more less untraceable, they're really saying 90% of 10% of Mexico crime guns are of US origin. Why would cartels want to pay full US retail when they can get more military-grade guns at wholesale elsewhere?
If I'd had my thinking cap on, I could have done better. I'd have asked "If I told you that people in country A are engaging in activity that may encourage people in country B to break the laws of country B, and ask you who's to blame, your answer is going to be 'The Americans'???" Knowing his personality, I think then he'd have seen the contradiction.
Just turn it around on him. Argue that the drug problem is due to supply from Mexico and that the gun problem is due to demand in Mexico. He might notice the contradiction if it comes from you.
Hey Barry,don’t take all the credit for yoursrlf!Remember your “Partner In Crime’over at Justice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So he is now admitting Fast and Furious? Amazing.
Too late; he passed away. I won’t get to talk to him for a while, except in my head. No sorrow; he was a good man and lived to a good [very] old age.
Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent MythAs we discussed in a previous analysis, the 90 percent number was derived from a June 2009 U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) report to Congress on U.S. efforts to combat arms trafficking to Mexico (see external link).
According to the GAO report, some 30,000 firearms were seized from criminals by Mexican authorities in 2008. Of these 30,000 firearms, information pertaining to 7,200 of them (24 percent) was submitted to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) for tracing. Of these 7,200 guns, only about 4,000 could be traced by the ATF, and of these 4,000, some 3,480 (87 percent) were shown to have come from the United States. Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth
This means that the 87 percent figure relates to the number of weapons submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF that could be successfully traced and not from the total number of weapons seized by Mexican authorities or even from the total number of weapons submitted to the ATF for tracing. In fact, the 3,480 guns positively traced to the United States equals less than 12 percent of the total arms seized in Mexico in 2008 and less than 48 percent of all those submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF for tracing. This means that almost 90 percent of the guns seized in Mexico in 2008 were not traced back to the United States.
Sorry to hear that.
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