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The Russians Are Shrinking!
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 3, 2013 | OLIVER BULLOUGH

Posted on 05/04/2013 1:54:56 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Vladimir Putin is more than a year into his third term as president of Russia, and he is likely to dominate the country's next decade as he dominated the last—just as Joseph Stalin and Leonid Brezhnev dominated their own times in the Kremlin. Like Putin or loathe him, he embodies an era.

But centuries from now, the history books will barely remember the human rights abuses or oil pipelines in today's coverage of Russia. Mr. Putin will be remembered for one thing only: missing the chance to save his nation from a lingering decline.

The United Nations predicts that, by 2050, there will be 116 million people in Russia, a drop of 30 million in the half-century from 2000, when Mr. Putin was elected president. That drop in numbers is roughly equivalent to the entire population of Canada.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: empirebuilding; eurasianunion; fsb; humanrights; kgb; nationalization; putin; ussr

1 posted on 05/04/2013 1:54:56 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Strange to pick on the Russians. Most of Europe and Eastern Asia faces the same, and Russia’s outlook has been improving dramatically over the last few years.


2 posted on 05/04/2013 2:01:25 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: MinorityRepublican

All credibility dropped into an abyss when they wrote the phrase “The UN predicts.”


3 posted on 05/04/2013 2:01:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The fertility rate of Russia has rebounded from 1.17 children per woman to 1.70 in the last fourteen years. Meanwhile the fertility rate of Iran has gone from 6.9 to 1.3.


4 posted on 05/04/2013 2:03:44 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’ll volunteer to fertilize as many young, nubile Russian women as necessary. It’s a dirty job, but somebody’s got to do it.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 2:05:12 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Message: We need amnesty for Mexicans in this country, because if our population does not continue to grow, we will be just like Putin’s Russia!!!


6 posted on 05/04/2013 2:05:21 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Muzzies from the 3rd world will gladly fill the void.


7 posted on 05/04/2013 2:05:26 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: dangus

And teh situation is better for Russia and worse for Iran than it seems; most Russian women are older, and so those who are still fertile are having enough babies to make up for it. On the other hand, very few women in Iran are elderly.


8 posted on 05/04/2013 2:06:05 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Be careful not to step on them!


9 posted on 05/04/2013 2:11:47 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: MrEdd
Kinda like how the UN predicted there would be 50 million “climate refugees” by 2010, and had to backtrack.
10 posted on 05/04/2013 2:13:28 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: fieldmarshaldj

11 posted on 05/04/2013 2:23:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Feminism has a role in this. Modern women don’t want the boring job of staying home and raising the future generation.


12 posted on 05/04/2013 2:32:06 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Mr. Putin will be remembered for one thing only: missing the chance to save his nation from a lingering decline.”

Hmmm...besides Putin, what other name would fit that sentence???


13 posted on 05/04/2013 2:32:36 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: hattend

China has no women because of selective abortion. Russia has no men because of Vodka. They share a border. It’s only a matter of time.


14 posted on 05/04/2013 2:32:48 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

Chinese men don’t like us big-nosed devils...


15 posted on 05/04/2013 2:38:00 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: MrEdd
All credibility dropped into an abyss when they wrote the phrase “The UN predicts.”

Assuredly, in addition, the Russians and Chinese have begun to kick around the UN at their pleasure with Security Council vetoes recently, and have received backing from several rotating Security Council members.

The UN sees the handwriting on the wall.

Russia is the first to attempt coming back from Communism, we have yet to see how long it takes or if it can be done, but I'm sure this has more to do with Russia's state than failure to kiss UN rear has.

16 posted on 05/04/2013 2:56:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We have plenty of Mexicans. Maybe we could convince Pooty Poot to take some off our hands.


17 posted on 05/04/2013 3:09:12 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: dangus

In 2012, Russia’s population increased by 292,400 people.


18 posted on 05/04/2013 3:31:55 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: RightGeek

“We have plenty of Mexicans.”

Let’s hear it for “Cerveza and Procreation!”


19 posted on 05/04/2013 3:38:02 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: MinorityRepublican

In Other words, “The Russians are Not Coming.”


20 posted on 05/04/2013 3:38:43 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: MinorityRepublican

Meanwhile we have a trillion Chinese being ignored just south of there, which are busily making more, and more, of what is sold in all our stores.

Ever increasing trade surpluses.

Growing military budgets.

Zero, tolerance or importation of other cultures.

Yet it goes on. We send American jobs out of the country.


21 posted on 05/04/2013 3:42:16 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yep. It is the WSJ after all.


22 posted on 05/04/2013 3:55:04 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: MinorityRepublican
It's NOT just Russia - this happening almost everywhere EXCEPT 3rd world and Muslim countries.

In 200 years there won't be enough Germans in Germany to keep the language alive. Same for the rest of Europe - add enough Muslims to France and France becomes a Muslim country. All the artistry of the French will be gone...Hugarians and Brits are dying out too.

Democrats are working at bringing millions of 3rd world people here... millions who bring their cultures with them. Put enough poor Mexicans in the US and we become Mexico - gangs, poverty, elites and very poor - almost no middle class. Should be fun. Want to bring children up in that world? Cultures vote with their hopes and dreams - or the lack of hopes and dreams...

It's call cultural suicide. It's a form of genocide...

The difference in the US is our liberal elites - our Politically Correct ones - are for it. Poor dependent third world types vote democrat... well, until there's enough of them - then they dump the liberal elite old white guys.. bye bye Biden...and vote in the kinds of people who run the countries they came from...

Suicide among white middle class men is climbing - and the desire to create a family by white middle class women is falling. Our liberal elites are cheering - soon we'll be a 'brown' country. As if there aren't any brown countries in the world... Cultural suicide... genocide by any other name...

23 posted on 05/04/2013 4:25:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, but it would still be ours.


24 posted on 05/04/2013 5:12:58 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: demshateGod

Interesting hypothesis.


25 posted on 05/04/2013 5:19:03 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: MinorityRepublican; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Yoga's popular in Russia.


26 posted on 05/04/2013 5:22:48 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Pan_Yan

Mark Steyne wrote it I think.


27 posted on 05/05/2013 7:07:54 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

-—missing the chance to save his nation from a lingering decline———

I would argue that Putin knows and understands the problem but lacks the means to remedy it. The people have destroyed Mother Russia by giving up. There is no means of advancement in a country lacking the ability to manufacture those things present elsewhere. It’s cool to pretend you are worldly. It is yet another thing to be on par with the truly worldly.

Putin has turned to his only real strength, arms. He has pushed the manufacture and sales of arms because so far as industry goes, arms are his strong suit.

Back when, Russia was given the option to import capital and manufacturing but stole the money and rejected the work. China was given the same opportunity and has thrived. Russians lack the individual initiative present in the Chinese and are in decline.

Then there is Boston. How many have found that life in near commuist Boston is preferable to life in a country without roads?


28 posted on 05/05/2013 7:23:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Mr. Putin will be remembered as the man who failed to defend the Russians against the most terrible enemy of all: their own love of vodka.

I never trust those authors who are opposed to spirits.
29 posted on 05/05/2013 11:10:28 AM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: wonkowasright

It was a shortage of vodka that was cited as one of the reasons from Khrushchev’s downfall.


30 posted on 05/05/2013 11:13:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Revolting cat!

31 posted on 05/05/2013 1:51:58 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

32 posted on 05/05/2013 1:55:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It looks like Russia is a stereotypical boogey forever.
Academia and media types are always pointing at it on this and that.
The reality is Russian demographics is same or better comparing to most industrialized nations.
Most other stereotypes aren’t actually fit post-Soviet Russia as well.
Today they are by far not the most drinking nation, their abortion rates decreased sixfold since 1992 too.
There aren’t bread lines and food shortages, no bears in the streets.
And they have a population growth for a few years and counting, too.


33 posted on 05/13/2013 3:53:29 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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