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Preschoolers With ADHD Often Treated Incorrectly (90%)
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Posted on 05/04/2013 12:51:17 PM PDT by Java4Jay

Doctors usually do not follow guidelines for treating very young children with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder(ADHD). In the study, about 90 percent of doctors surveyed did not strictly adhere to new guidelines recommended for treating preschoolers with ADHD, such as when to start medications, and which medications to use.

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Some doctors started preschoolers on medication too soon before trying any non-drug treatment, such as counseling parents on how to manage their child's behavior. The findings are concerning because doctors should recommend behavior treatments first,
1 posted on 05/04/2013 12:51:17 PM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: Java4Jay

When my kids were in grade school many of these ‘ADHD’ kids just needed a good swat on the rump and a parent to be a parent.


2 posted on 05/04/2013 1:00:23 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

We completely modified my son’s already healthy diet and have witnessed a miracle. He doesn’t eat any sweets to begin with, but we did pull him off of the little bit of juice he drank. He is dairy free (which made the most noticeable difference), and we learned all the terms for MSG so we can avoid that as well. Now he is a normal, super active little boy without uncontrollable and irrational breakdowns.


3 posted on 05/04/2013 1:02:58 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Java4Jay
Gotta think of THX 1138 ( trailer ) ... "first they start skipping prescribed drug dosages" ( 1:25 )

Once again the left has become what they claimed to fear from the right. Note the NASA "look and feel" of the control center, as the space program was taken as the model of subjugation to technology.

I remembered Robert Duvall was in it, but I didn't know he was THX1138 !

4 posted on 05/04/2013 1:05:59 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Java4Jay

Exactly, but having a kid diagnosed can also mean more money from the government each month. There are classrooms in urban areas where as many as 3 out of 4 kids are diagnosed with a handicap now. There is supposedly an entire underground network of parents who know which Dr. will do it and how to present the child to get it done.

And with the street value of Ridalin on top of it it’s a double money maker for the baby’s momma.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 1:08:11 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Java4Jay

Bubble wrap is also good.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 1:20:09 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Abathar

Yes they can get what they call a crazy check, and the double advantage is that the kids shut down while on the meds. Free (for them) money and limited time actually being a parent! What welfare queen could ask for anything more?


7 posted on 05/04/2013 1:20:28 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Abathar

Yes, I think you are right. There is federal money in this for the schools, as with school lunches and so many other things.


8 posted on 05/04/2013 1:21:41 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Java4Jay

I have to wonder how many so-called “hyper-active” kids are just rambunctious. I certainly was.


9 posted on 05/04/2013 1:22:13 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Java4Jay
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most preschoolers “ADHD”?

I only know of very FEW little ones NOT being full of excitement, joy and exuberance at that age.

10 posted on 05/04/2013 1:23:39 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Java4Jay

Great. Get all the kiddies on ritalin and encourage the grown-ups to dope themselves up with “medicinal” marijuana.

A drugged society is a compliant society.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 1:25:21 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: goodwithagun
We completely modified my son’s already healthy diet and have witnessed a miracle.

Same here. Had the complete allergy panel done, and found that milk, corn, pollen, wheat and peanuts were the major culprits. Had to fight the docs to do the testing; of course, once the results came back, they claimed to have known it all along...

12 posted on 05/04/2013 1:36:01 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: goodwithagun

Our girls don’t get artificial dye (who needs that?) and are dairy free. One is gluten free. I would like to get the other one gf, too. I am and feel more clear-headed myself! I would go diet before anything else.


13 posted on 05/04/2013 1:37:02 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: NoGrayZone

I think these are the ones that are so hyper and impulsive they don’t even stop long enough to take a nap or even eat at the table.


14 posted on 05/04/2013 1:38:36 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: NoGrayZone
full of excitement, joy and exuberance at that age.

(Robot voice): Not. Allowed... Good. Democrats. Do. Not. Feel. Joy.

15 posted on 05/04/2013 1:38:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: Abathar

ADHD should be removed from the SSI list. No one should collect money for hyper kids. Get them off the soda and candy first. I have a truly disabled son (true autism, mental retardation, and on), and we never collected a cent, and these parents collect for multiple kids.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 1:41:39 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: erlayman

“These ones” have been around forever.

It is the lack of respect, in which was always enforced at home.

Meds do not encourage nor teach respect.


17 posted on 05/04/2013 1:44:03 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Albion Wilde; conservative cat; Black Agnes

I will warn you now: Prepare to be assaulted by FReepers who claim that either ADHD, diet modifications, or both, are all in your heads!


18 posted on 05/04/2013 1:51:14 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Java4Jay

I have also noticed the diagnosis has increased since the school schedule took out recess every day. Kids with energy and no way to expend it during the day...


19 posted on 05/04/2013 1:51:30 PM PDT by bike800
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To: Java4Jay
Some doctors started preschoolers on medication too soon before trying any non-drug treatment, such as counseling parents on how to manage their child's behavior. The findings are concerning because doctors should recommend behavior treatments first…

I remember when my oldest boy was in grade 2 (or perhaps it was 3) … he drove the teacher off the deep end and like good parents at the school’s insistence, we took our son to see a child psychologist who immediately recommended that we get him on Ritalin. Not content with such a blazingly fast (and dare I say predictably automatic) diagnosis, we waited a few months until we could get him to see the head of the psychology department at our university….who incidentally had made it his life’s work to study ADHD. He put our son through 3 days of testing, produced a 6 page very readable and sensible report….then when we had gone through the final briefing of his findings, he accompanied us to my son’s school where we had set up a meeting with the teachers and principal. It was a sight to behold as this psychology head royally raked the school over the coals on everything that they were doing wrong. Oh… and one other thing, his analysis of our son indicated that putting him on Ritalin would have been the absolutely worst thing that could be done. One of the most simply things that he recommended was to relocate him to a different seat in the classroom where all the artwork that normally gets put up on the walls was removed around him… this very simple act of removing distracting things out of our son’s field of vision settled him down so that he could concentrate and had an amazing result. My wife and I followed this up at home and one of the things that I remember doing for several years was simply making sure that he went to bed early and then we used to just lay in the dark together and tell stories… the room was absolutely dark and with nothing to distract him, he would be absolutely calm. After saying goodnight prayers, he was off to sleep like a baby. A few years of this regimen and he had settled into a pattern of behaviour that was devoid of the wild nature that he originally exhibited.

Our son went on to become one of the top students in his high school where by age 15, he made it his mission to read the Bible cover to cover and memorize many many passages… he went on to university and finished 6th in a class of 110 in what was probably the toughest engineering program in the country. He’s 30 now and a finer young man you won’t find. I won’t take credit for any of his successes because they are all his….but my wife and gladly accept the credit for not letting ourselves get bowled over by ‘the system’ and being willing to dig deeper.

20 posted on 05/04/2013 2:09:07 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: Java4Jay
ADHD is a bunch of BS. Kids are kids.

Now they are saying there is adult ADHD. That is simple a result of parents that didn't teach their kids a little discipline and now their is an excuse.

21 posted on 05/04/2013 2:14:07 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: hecticskeptic

Great story and glad things turned out well for you and your son.


22 posted on 05/04/2013 2:15:34 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: NoGrayZone

Especially boys. I always tell my daughter to watch little boys when we are out somewhere. They are so full of energy and adventure and curiosity. A lot of girls are, too, but boys more so.

My son was on Ritalin for awhile when he was 7 but it made him like a zombie and he had no appetite. It was for his teacher’s benefit more than his, as she practically begged me to have him medicated. Boys and girls learn differently and should be taught differently, IMHO.


23 posted on 05/04/2013 2:47:02 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NoGrayZone

I don’t see anyone arguing for drugs, at least not as a first resort. I’m not even a parent and I realize that kids need physical activity, good sleep, clear rules, reward systems, and lots of love and understanding. Basically the equivalent time to play as previous generations enjoyed and thereby opportunities to exercise the natural skills they will need as adults.


24 posted on 05/04/2013 2:50:22 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: ConservativeInPA
Agreed. There was no such thing when I was growing up. If we didn't study then we got bad grades, which led to discipline from our parents. That approach pretty much worked, and I didn't wind up on SSDI as a result.

As a landlord, I see so many people in their 20's and 30's who are now on disability because they have some phoney attention deficit "syndrome"... they have zero incentive to ever become productive citizens as a result.

25 posted on 05/04/2013 2:58:53 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: goodwithagun
My middle daughter had ADHD - bounced off the walls. The summer she was 5 I asked the pediatrician about the Feingold diet and got the go-ahead. We were already dealing with a true milk allergy so it wasn't that big a step to get the family to conform. What a remarkable difference! Her major problem food was APPLES.

She never was medicated and graduated college with a 3.92 gpa.

26 posted on 05/04/2013 3:57:49 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Cementjungle

And there also used to be no shortage of good paying unskilled jobs for the less academically uneducated “high-school graduates” or dropouts which is what a lot of these ADHD kids would probably be doing two or three generations past.


27 posted on 05/04/2013 4:17:11 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: Cementjungle; ConservativeInPA

I am sorry to disagree with you two on this. I was diagnosed with ADD, but as an adult back in the early 1990’s. I was in my mid 30’s at the time. I was a straight-A student and not a problem in the classroom other than I raised my hand quite a bit (fervently), and swung my legs under my desk a lot when a child in the earliest grades. I eventually learned to sit on them to keep from swinging them all the time. I became class president my senior year in HS and was class valedictorian. I was awarded a full scholarship to a private top-25 college.

However, when not in a structured routine (at home) I had much more difficulty. I was spanked frequently, and often didn’t understand why I got them when I perceived my behaviors to be the same as my siblings. I thought everyone spoke out loud what they were thinking at the time. Little did I realize that others thought about that slap seconds more quickly than I did, in time enough to not open their mouths to avert said slap or spanking.

I am still easily distracted, but also have many learned lessons the hard way. It is something I struggle with every day. I have tried medication, but that only helped a bit. It also made me anxious. That wasn’t helpful. I don’t think medication is a good option, but to each his own. I try to avoid situations (when possible) that make my distractibility an issue. Sometimes it can be beneficial.

Oh, neither I nor anyone in my family gets any government assistance. I don’t believe in that kind of thing. I think it breeds dependence and sloth, and that is completely against my grain.


28 posted on 05/04/2013 4:27:47 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace
However, when not in a structured routine (at home) I had much more difficulty. I was spanked frequently, and often didn’t understand why I got them when I perceived my behaviors to be the same as my siblings.

I think you just identified the problem. You didn't conform to others expectations of behavior. It was their problem, nothing to do with you. Some people are that way, and others are not. There is a fully range of behavior that has nothing to do with intelligence, ability to learn, creativity, etc. Personally, I am highly visual, tactile and active. If this stuff was around when I was a kid, I am positive I would be on some kind of meds.

29 posted on 05/04/2013 5:05:08 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: Java4Jay
ADD ADHD is the most misdiagnosed disorder in kids and now many adults. When I was growing up {I'm in my mid 50's} there was a saying "Snotty Nose Brat". Interesting enough the saying relates to medical condition and behavior. There is a very similar group of disorders that hit both kids and adults which gives ADD ADHD symptoms. The symptoms are very close but cause is not the same and the cause is very common. The disorders are called Central Auditory Processing Disorders or CAPD. The term also relates to optic semsory processing. The cause has been linked to several things happening in early childhood such as sinus allergies, ear infections, and mild birth defects which a portion of the kids sensory processing system is damaged. This damage is usually not reversible but can be dealt with.

Be very leery and highly skeptical of any school or doctor wanting to push Ritalin before an Audiologist and Allergy Specialist is seen. The Audiologist or a Speech Pathologist can test for and diagnose CAPD a Shrink can not and most never consider this as a cause. Giving a CAPD kid Ritalin or ADD ADHD meds can do far more harm. Their sensory system is already overtaxed.

Watch the kids. Do some basic detective work and keep a log or notes on when behavior changes. Be especially watchful where they have just engaged in sensory processing extensive activities such as video games, TV, etc.

Observe the child’s reactions and pay very close attention to if they are actually processing what you say. Example TV is on but kid isn't watching it. You say "hey Billy please take out the trash". The child just sits there as if he didn't hear you or says Huh? You repeat yourself and about mid sentence Billy says "do what" as if he just heard you. The third time you've had enough and say slowly "Billy take out" and then it's like a switch was turned on Billy understands. This is not ADD ADHD this is likely CAPD. Billy began processing your first attempts about the middle of your second attempt. The more background distractions the more attempts it takes to communicate.

Watch how they read. The kid may honest to goodness be only to read a few minutes. Watch for more clues such as reversing order of words, skipping words, skipping an entire sentence or paragraph and in some causes Dyslexic symptoms. Again this is not ADD ADHD.

A teacher is giving a lesson and says OK class take notes. Billy will either have no notes and will have understood half the instructions or had very few notes and can't tell you what the teacher said. Get Billy a voice recorder.

Bily needs to be placed facing the teacher and the teacher needs to face the class when talking not the blackboard or walking around the room. Kids like Billy usually read lips. They may process lip reading faster.

Next what else to look for? Watch the kids activities outdoors. Dad's you need understand what I am about to say. If Billy is lets say playing sandlot baseball and can not hit the ball despite your repeated attempts see if this happens. He swings way too early, way too late, or ducks from the ball as if afraid of it. That points to eye and muscle coordination often related to CAPD. Get him into Occupational Therapy for help. It is a good investment money wise in this case. Look at his shoes? Does he break the shoes over to the side? That again points to balance and function of the Inner Ear where most CAPD symptoms originate from. That one will require a visit to a foot doctor for some prescription insoles likely.

How did I learn all this? My own life experiences as a misdiagnosed ADD ADHD child who had multiple sensory processing issues and I still have them today only far worse. My parents got me help for what help was out there in the late 1960’s early 70’s.

ADD ADHD was not rampant when I was a kid. I was one of the few in my school they thought had it. I don’t and I never did. After my sensory processing system deteriorated to the point of disability when I was about 35 years old did I then seek out answers. It has taken me over 18 years to do so. Much of my information comes from looking in Vestibular Disorder venues on the web. Last but not least to adults reading this I give you this bit of information you will never hear in a Shrinks office. Vestibular {INNER EAR} and sensory processing dysfunction is likely the leading cause of adulthood Panic or Anxiety Disorder.

Mothers know how a baby with an ear infection acts. They are not happy campers. Older General Practiconers knew an Inner Ear Infection in adults. How often do you hear of adults having an Inner Ear infection today? Did they just go away? No I doubt that. Doctors have lost focus as to physical ailments cause and affects.

30 posted on 05/04/2013 5:41:25 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: bike800
I have also noticed the diagnosis has increased since the school schedule took out recess every day. Kids with energy and no way to expend it during the day...

Classroom time nor is ridiculous especially for early grade schoolers. Naps are a no longer an allowed activity in most Kindergarten classes. Pre-K needs to be ended now. Grade school K-third grade should be out at 1:30. Fourth through eighth grade or sixth if a middle school should be out at 2:30. Middle /junior high and high school should be out at no later than 3:30. School years should begin Tuesday after Labor Day and end Friday before Memorial Day. Recess in grade school should be an after lunch activity and Physical Education should be a required three year twice to three times a week course in high school. Block scheduling should be ended in all public schools.

31 posted on 05/04/2013 5:51:53 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe
I want to add a few things to post 30 very important. Watch for lack of or limited fine motor skills especially in writing. Watch a kid as they write. Can they proof read and catch obvious mistakes? More important when they try correction do they repeat what they just erased? This is not ADD ADHD either.
32 posted on 05/04/2013 5:55:37 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: FamiliarFace

You might want to read post 30. Seriously my legs were always moving as a kid and still as an adult. I’m curious. Are you scared of high places?


33 posted on 05/04/2013 5:59:36 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Interesting. Thank you. I would like to add that in my limited experiences with medical doctors that a medical test is often needed prior to treatment.

In the case of ADD or ADHD the claim is that a chemical imbalance in the brain is involved, yet no tests are performed to actually measure levels of substances in the brain, nor are there any recommended guidelines as to what the levels of these substances should be.

Seems to me that a doc that would quickly prescribe meds based solely on symptoms and not examining the root cause of the problem is not practicing medicine.


34 posted on 05/04/2013 7:53:22 PM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: hecticskeptic

What a wonderfull son you have....and great parents of course......enjoyed your story...we need to hear life stories such as yours...lifts the heart and soul.

Thank you.


35 posted on 05/04/2013 7:59:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: cva66snipe

I read post 30, and the rest of them as well. I don’t think that your description of a kid watching TV fit my behavior when I was a child. I never heard people say anything. They (parents or siblings) had to touch me, tap my shoulder, get right in front of my face or something like that if I was in a hyper-focused state. I’m either easily distracted or in intense focus. I know it was a frustration to my family.

I would be the only one who didn’t hear the instructions that the family would be leaving in 15 minutes, so finish getting ready. Seriously, I never heard the first word, the second, or the third. I would ask why somebody didn’t come tell me, and they would tell me they did. (I was an avid reader - still am - and always had my nose in a book.)

I was a great reader and speller (champion at my school and competed at the local city level), and took verbatim notes. A voice recorder in college did help me keep up though. I had very fine motor skills. In my early career in the lab, I did work under the microscope frequently. I’ve always had great penmanship, too, and have done calligraphy as a hobby.

One thing I did have trouble with was remembering verbal commands. If my dad asked me to get something from his bedroom, I’d repeat it over and over again on my way to the room...look for the requested item...not find it where I thought he had indicated it should be...then get distracted trying to find it elsewhere...only to return to him empty handed, and asking for further instructions. I can’t remember a list that has more than 3 or 4 items on it, unless there’s some logical connection between them.

I did find out a few years ago that I do have restless legs syndrome. The only thing that may be similar to what you’re saying is that as an adult, I realized I was (am) afraid of high places (restaurants at the top of high-rise hotels, high levels at the Statue of Liberty, the tippy top of the World Trade Center when it was still around, that sort of thing). Heights never bothered me as a youngster to my recollection, but I’m not sure how often I got the chance to go very high. I loved climbing trees and swinging as high as possible.

So how does any of the compare to yours? I’m in my early 50’s BTW.


36 posted on 05/04/2013 8:38:19 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: paint_your_wagon
Back when I developed serious issues in my adult life with concentration, over reaction to certain auditory and visual stimulation, and physical weakness and fatigue associated with it I was diagnosed with General Anxiety Disorder. My medical history had sensory processing disorders clues from toddler - adult but no doctors were connecting the two together.

This isn't chemical imbalance but rather neurological damage to the Cerebellar-Vestibular System. This is the bodies major center for processing sight, sound, balance, and how the sensory input is translated and responses created. Much of it is more recent research although at least one man began making the connection as far back as the 1970's. This can be tested for by specialist who can not prescribe medications. Most things needed are low tech adaptions at little cost.

I personally believe this condition has always existed in mankind. However the triggers for it as such come from the technology revolution. The outbreak and increases of ADD ADHD diagnoses or symptoms seem to go hand in hand with that time frame. As a kid we had B&W TV in our home. Video games weren't around and very few classrooms had distractions like TV. Classrooms had desk lined up in order and not scattered tables around the room.

Today every place you go in public is sensory saturation. For example Walmart. Up till recently in my areas they used the store PA for everything from twice a minute announcements to employee pep rallies. You could see some customers becoming agitated but they likely didn't know why. It was breaking their concentration. Same thing with places like Home Depot and Lowes. My dad called them torture chambers. Again those sounds were not there. In homes video games were not there and color TV which flashes from scene to scene making the brain keep up.

I don't think it's been taken serious enough. Also I think Big Pharm stands to loose money as do schools for keeping the ADD/ADHD going.

Don't get me wrong. I do believe there really also exist ADD ADHD. IMO it is a low fraction of ones being misdiagnosed. A Shrink told me a trick he uses when parents bring in a suspected ADD ADHD child. He watches the kid and gives the kid a strong caffeine pill and watches for change in behavior. The ADD ADHD kids it will calm the others it will either make much worse or no change at all.

All this depends on where the damage lies at. Each person differs. In my case it also triggers upper Torso seizure activity which as I understand it isn't common. I had severe sinus allergies and still do. I take shots for that. That likely damaged my Inner Ears. But I had other sensory issues since birth such as one eye functional vision. I can use both eyes. Never at the same time LOL. That's how I passed two armed forces physicals.

37 posted on 05/04/2013 8:40:34 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: FamiliarFace
A lot of things can vary like when the damage happened and area of the Cerebellar-Vestibular system it harmed. You do by your description exhibit some Vestibular symptoms such as not hearing people. That doesn't necessarily mean it is caused by hearing loss. I do know the trick you use to memorize things enough to get as task done and I do that as well until someone distracts me and it's gone a lot of times. I have been accused of having convenient hearing LOL. But I do have hearing loss now at 50%.

Oddly enough I notice some of my symptoms subsiding a few months ago. I also noticed I was saying what, huh, etc much more. I had to get my hearing aids turned up and that increased all other symptoms again. But I still have to have things repeated to me verbally quite often.

Before I really got bad on concentration I could read books. Not anymore. But for me books especially technical ones I used to retrieve the information I needed from specific sections.

Oddly enough before the damage got bad I was an electrical trouble shooter as a maintenance mechanic. I could shut out the world around me and focus on my task. I lost that as well.

Your fear of high places? OK it's simple. Your brain is geared for self preservation. Whether you realize it or not the brain realizes there is a balance issue. That is where the majority of heights stem from. The brain says danger get away. The worse this got with me the worse my dislike for high places. Falling off a ladder a couple years ago was the last straw LOL.

See if any of this sounds familiar to you. COGNITIVE ASPECTS OF VESTIBULAR DISORDERS

38 posted on 05/04/2013 9:20:49 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Java4Jay

How can you tell if a preschooler has ADHD? They all have the attention span of a gnat.


39 posted on 05/04/2013 9:24:51 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Java4Jay

I believe I am moderately ADHD. If I went to school today instead of the 50’s-60’s, I’d probably be a zombie from the meds. I learned the old fashioned way - if I acted up, I got punished. If I did stupid things, the teacher and my classmates would look at me (most of the class would laugh) and the humiliation would give me opportunities to be more aware and to stem most “episodes” before they developed. Today, they would be punished for noting that I was acting strange because it would be a slap at my self image.


40 posted on 05/05/2013 5:01:45 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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