Skip to comments.Agent: I was ordered to let U.S. guns into Mexico [March 3, 2011]
Posted on 05/04/2013 10:54:23 AM PDT by Innovative
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That would be Holder-colored nackground checks...
Dang, I hate to say it but I guess for once king hussein didn’t lie about the US being responsible for the violence in meh-ico. As long as the feds are letting guns walk there will be an issue. Did they stop doing that? Or is it still an “ongoing investigation/sting operation”.
“The idea was to see where the guns ended up, build a big case and take down a cartel.”
No, the idea was to load up Mexico with guns that originated in the US so that Obastard could use it as an excuse for tighter gun control.
March 3, 2011 6:10 PM
That was a long time ago.
But, there’s a twist in the motive here. Holder wanted to set the stage for GOING AFTER GUN SELLERS/FFL’s for selling guns to criminals. I believe that was Holder’s ultimate objective.
This disgusting and corrupt regime has a hell of a lot to answer for.
The thing that REALLY ticks me off about this Fast and Furious deal is that, the Kenyan and Holder set up the Fast and Furious fiasco to set the stage for exactly what the Kenyan did in Mexico the other day. Blame all of the killings in Mexico on OUR Second Amendment. This whole regime is hateful and despicable. Very anti-American. So how did America get this point? Politicians offering free handouts for votes.
You got that right.
Now the liar in chief goes to Mexico and tell them we are responsible for the gun in their country, but he doesn’t add that he sent them there.
Agree. This story needs to go absolutely viral.
Yes, the published date is wrong on the FR post. It was dated May 3rd not the date on the article which was Mar. 3rd.
But it does fit nicely with the other Obozo administration criminal actions in Benghazi.
Unfortunately Mexico knew damn well what was going on because it fit their goals as well.
Brian Terry was murdered a long time ago. What difference does it make?
Most Americans think “Fast and Furious” was the name of an old Clint Eastwood spaghetti western.
This is orders-of-magnitude worse than Watergate.
Exactly which cartel did they take down?
Dated, but still a great reminder of who it was that caused (according to Obama) all the Mexican gun violence.
It feels like a sting that morphed into corruption - just old fashioned selling guns to Mexican Drug Cartels... I’d like to know where the money went...
Government bought guns with taxpayer dollars.
Sold to Mexican Drug dealers
Where’s the cash?
At the time, my memory is that Holder was encouraging the Mexican government to file suit against the big name gun manufacturers. Law firms were salivating for their piece of the multi-billion-dollar settlements that would result.
The beauty of it was classic Obama and classic Soros. They would get the result they desired but the visible fingerprints would not be theirs.
It blew up when Brian Terry was killed.
If Ojango was concerned about guns heading to Mexico he would stop selling them to the Cartels and enforce border control.
Just so. The whole thing first appeared on stage when the President of Mexico visited the White House, and had a photo op with Obama in which they both declared that American gun dealers were responsible for providing the cartels with weapons.
Then Hillary picked up the ball, and spent the next week or two telling the networks that the violence in Mexico was all caused by American gun dealers.
Then Holder ordered the ATF to instruct gun dealers to sell to Mexican criminals and let the weapons walk to Mexico.
Then, before they could go through with the whole plan, things broke down.
But the damned idiot in the White House still thinks he can lie his way back in the intended direction. And he has the whole press on his side.
Let's hope he's wrong. It's encouraging to see CBS go with the story, although it may turn out to be just a small, one-time thing.
This is the story of the century. But we've had plenty of those from Obama, and the press would rather go out of business than pick up any of these stories and really go to town with them, like they did with Watergate.
There it is. Obama/Holder are the masterminds.
I’m sure the mainstream media will get around to covering this story, eventually, but of course they have more urgent stories that take precedence. They don’t want us to miss the details of Lindsey Lohan checking into the Betty Ford Clinic.
Yes, but at least the idiot in the White House is being consistent with his stance on the video-motivated death of the late lamented Mr. Ben Ghazi.
(There it is. Obama/Holder are the masterminds).
Seriously, so what. Nothing is going to happen to this elite criminal enterprise, nor the next group or the group after that. They are all entrenched, compromised, etc & as long as the sheeple have a TV, six-pack & the trains run on time the beat will go on. Further the presidential nominees in this corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" will not be selected by you or me. The criminal enterprise will select it.
Government bought guns with taxpayer dollars.
Sold to Mexican Drug dealers
Wheres the cash?
No cash needed... it was just another welfare program.
THAT is the truth that was never supposed to see the light of day.
That’s not ALL he’s risking!
He’d better steer clear of Ft. Marcy Park!
Remember when there were MANY journalists who genuinely questioned the government, like this Atkisson...?
She’s a freak hero now, but her type USED 2b common.
Oh well, more for Drudge and us, I guess.
DOING WHAT COLUMBIA J-SCHOOL **USED** TO DO.
Oh yes! And don’t overlook the story of the Kardashian broad getting knocked up by whatizname while still married to whooozitts!
They won’t arrest people who clearly violate our laws and waltz across the border with bags of drugs on their backs. Yet, we are supposed to believe that they will violate Mexican sovereignty and stream across the border to start arresting drug dealers and gang bangers at will .
The Berlin Wall came down and the USA was concerned about nuke materials getting loose. Meanwhile Germany was concerned about groups able to publish huge volumes of materials illegal under Germany law but legal in the USA. This set the stage for US/Germany intel collection synergy, and Germany provided an agent, Andreas Strassmeir; Andy would act like a right-wing German nut and infiltrate US extremist groups. In this he was aided by the resources of the SPLC, which had a long history of monitoring hate groups in a program called, “PatCon” for short.
Andy was helped by a US agent, Tim McVeigh, who like Andy had been in the army. They said he tried to become and SF and failed, but only the first part was true; in fact Tim tried out and instead received a much more sensitive assignment —infiltrate US “hate groups”.
But the field is not cut and dry, like training manuals in the Army. The field has people, who are willful and wayward. They suddenly do unforeseen things, like move up a blast timetable, which is what happened:
The US guv had collected lots of data, but a building was in rubble and they suddenly had a tarbaby on it’s hands —as things stood it could be shown they had known of an impending attack but did nothing.
SOUND FAMLIAR..? Let’s read that again: it could be shown they had known of an impending attack but did nothing.
But then they thought some more —Tim’s cover was intact, and he was still in place. They realized they could simply claim Tim was not their agent at all, but was a real extremist; they could make him the sole culprit, and escape a tidal wave of blame that had no land somewhere.
So that’s what they did —they just said it was allllll the bad Tim McVeigh, acting alone, yup.
Sorta like an LA YouTube maker, who is in jail to this day.
I thought this was familiar. I believe it came out that the Director of ATF had watched this video.
“This happened long ago!”
“What difference does it make?”
“Only a few people were killed!”
“Not as bad as Newtown!”
“Not as bad as Boston!”
“Another reason American should not be allowed to have guns!”
As a public service, just offering some quotes for the media and “progressives” to use to defend those who ordered this crime.
Who are they going to have to answer to, the GOP?
Congress needs to zero out all line items funding the ATF.
I do not doubt that Mr Dodson was told this. He may even believe it. It is, nonetheless, a truck load of bull manure.
Everybody, including me, writing from my benighted location, over 1,000 miles from the southern border, already knows the cartels are a criminal enterprise. It is like saying that Elliot Ness was going to allow "Mr Caponio" to commit one more crime so he could be "taken down."
Anybody who believes anything coming out of holder's "justice department" gets precisely what they deserve.
The vast preponderance of "domestic terrorism" today is perpetrated by various agencies of the feral (not a misspelling) government.
You’ve got the date wrong. This was a 2011 story.
So is Benghazi...he needs to hang for one or both of them.
But it’s appropriate reminder in today’s context.
“We also recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States,” the president said. “I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people, that can save lives here in Mexico and back home in the United States.”
-— May 3, 2013
Obama speech in Mexico — full text:
“And we also recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States. (Applause.) I think many of you know that in America, our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms, and as President I swore an oath to uphold that right and I always will. But at the same time, as Ive said in the United States, I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common-sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people. That can save lives here in Mexico and back home in the United States. Its the right thing to do. (Applause.) So well keep increasing the pressure on gun traffickers who bring illegal guns into Mexico. Well keep putting these criminals where they belong — behind bars. “
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