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To: cloudmountain
Eternal war. What a waste.

Yep, it sucks worse than anything . . . except that pesky alternative of annihilation.

18 posted on 05/04/2013 8:53:01 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat
Annihilation: the Palestinians are well under control there, for the most part. That was my read. The business owners use them for the labor the owners don't want to do--dishwashers, waiters, cleaners, farm labor. That's what I saw.

The Arab Catholic guide we had on the Steve Ray tour told us of their persecution by the the Israel government. It's not a story one reads here. I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it. The Israels have every right in the world to defend themselves. Is is SUCH a one-sided battle. The Israeli whump the holy tar out of the Jihadists every time. They deserve it. Terrorism is a plague on humanity. The same battle goes on in India and Pakistani territories.

The Palestinian said that the Palestinian Muslims and Israeli government have been at it for as long as he remembers. The thing that struck most sour for the Palestinians was the taking of Palestinian land and homes. One guy still has the key to his grandmother's house in former Palestine. Ain't no more Palestine anymore. They LOST the world's shortest war--six days. Get over it.
They DO get on with their lives. Most Palestinians don't care who the government leaders are anymore--they mistrust all governments and their leaders.

My read on it. I was only there for three weeks.

WHAT a fabulous trip...Nazareth, Bethlehem, Cana, sea of Galilee (you'll eat "Peter's fish" at the local restaurant) and, of course, Calvary and Our Lord's tomb. I prayed at the rock where Jesus prayed--"Thy will be done." I laid my rosary on the very slab where they laid Jesus right off His Cross. And then, in His Tomb I was able to do nothing but weep and wonder.
EVERY Christian should visit the Holy Land.

The TOPPER was eating at a restaurant that was a memorial to Elvis Presley. Harhar, was that ever a nonsequiter or what. Naturally I had the requisite hamburger, fries and chocolate milk shake. Yummers.

There are a couple of photos there. I would post them but I have FORGOTTEN how to post images and graphics.

Any help would be muchly appreciated. Thank you.

27 posted on 05/04/2013 10:47:34 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: tomkat
Eternal war. What a waste. Yep, it sucks worse than anything . . . except that pesky alternative of annihilation.

The Palestinians aren't able to annihilate anyone, ever. From my observations they are mostly poor, uneducated and uninformed about much beyond what their mullahs tell them. What a combination.

It's no wonder that the Palestinian Christians, mostly Catholic, come here. They can practice their faith freely.

I saw an odd "parnership" in Israel (not Jerusalem): the land and business owners, mostly Jewish, use the Palestinians to do the work that they, Jews, don't care to do. The Jewish owner of a series of restaurants, uses Palestinian busboys, dishwashers, etc. It was weird to see that, at first, but I soon got used to is.

There doesn't SEEM to be the animosity between those two groups that one might expect. I don't think I ever read anything positive about Palestinians.

Our guide on the Steve-Janet Ray Holy Land tour was a very large, fat Palestinian Arab (of course) Roman Catholic.
It was SUCH an interesting tour both with Steve Ray, former Baptist minister (intent of converting those "disillusioned" Catholics) and the Palestinian Catholic. I learned about the Rays from their book "Crossing the Tiber."

To end the tour, the MOST weird part was having lunch at the huge Elvis Presley restaurant there. WEIRD.

31 posted on 05/04/2013 11:24:11 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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