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Ted Cruz: Biden’s shotgun advice is “useful” if “attacked by a flock of geese”
Red Alert Politics ^ | 5-3-2013 | Kelsey Osterman

Posted on 05/03/2013 7:26:55 PM PDT by smoothsailing

May 3, 2013

Ted Cruz: Biden’s shotgun advice is “useful” if “attacked by a flock of geese”

By Kelsey Osterman

Ted Cruz Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) isn’t the biggest supporter of Vice President Joe Biden’s self-protection advice — unless you’re protecting yourself from angry birds.

While speaking at the NRA-IRL Leadership Forum — part of the 2013 National Rifle Association Annual Meetings in Houston, Texas — the Republican mocked Biden for his recommendation to just fire a shotgun in the air.

“I have to note, by the way — Vice President Joe Biden did have some very helpful advice on this issue,” Cruz told the crowd on Friday. “You know, he said if your house and your family are ever under attack, all you need to do is go outside with a double-barreled shotgun and fire both barrels in the air — which is very, very useful if it so happens that you’re being attacked by a flock of geese.”

The Texas Republican also challenge the Vice President to an hour-long debate on gun violence and ways to solve it.

“I would like to invite the vice president to engage in an hour-long conversation and debate, ‘How do we stop crime,’” he said, to applause from the audience.

Cruz added that Biden should “welcome the opportunity to talk” if the facts were really on his side.

Biden indicated this week that he was continuing his push for gun control legislation, even though he “hasn’t really discussed” it with President Obama yet.


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1 posted on 05/03/2013 7:26:55 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

They don’t work too bad on two legged varmints either


2 posted on 05/03/2013 7:29:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: smoothsailing

Biden is an idiot, capable of making idiotic comments on any subject that echos through his hollow head.


3 posted on 05/03/2013 7:34:29 PM PDT by pallis
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To: smoothsailing
Actually a shotgun (with the right ammo, choke, configuration and training)) is a pretty good short range weapon. Which is why you see them in many police cruisers. Most (not all) situations where you have a long range common criminal adversary allow you time and opportunity to retreat out of harms way.

Joe has given a lot of very bad advice on self defense, but that doesn't mean a shot gun is only good for waterfowl.

4 posted on 05/03/2013 7:34:30 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: smoothsailing
Biden’s shotgun advice is “useful” if “attacked by a flock of geese

What a great line!

5 posted on 05/03/2013 7:35:29 PM PDT by WesternPacific (The herded sheep have finally arrived at the slaughter house.)
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To: cripplecreek

So Joe...you are threatened and fire both barrels in the air.

BOTH barrels.....

BOTH......

Facepalm.


6 posted on 05/03/2013 7:35:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: smoothsailing

7 posted on 05/03/2013 7:36:02 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: smoothsailing
The Texas Republican also challenge the Vice President to an hour-long debate on gun violence and ways to solve it

Isn't there an old saying somewhere about shooting fish in a barrel?

8 posted on 05/03/2013 7:37:10 PM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: Norm Lenhart; cripplecreek

9 posted on 05/03/2013 7:38:06 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: smoothsailing

Biden probably knows nothing about guns but he lucked out and was not too far off in his statement.

Many shotguns are excellent defensive guns. In some situations they are probably the best choice but only in those situations.


10 posted on 05/03/2013 7:42:35 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Robert357

‘zackly.


11 posted on 05/03/2013 7:42:44 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: cripplecreek

Not if you shoot into the air.


12 posted on 05/03/2013 7:47:21 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: yarddog

Someone suggested a Mossberg 500.


13 posted on 05/03/2013 7:48:33 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: smoothsailing

Biden’s shotgun advice will get you thrown in jail after you are raped by your assailant laughing at you running out of ammo shooting at stars.


14 posted on 05/03/2013 7:48:42 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Robert357

Joe’s advice “is go outside with a double-barreled shotgun and fire both barrels in the air”. That pretty much takes away it’s utility as a short range weapon. But you might bring down a bird or two. Yep, I think Ted got it just about right.


15 posted on 05/03/2013 7:48:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: RobbyS

Well maybe if I’m attacked by a team of NBA thugs.


16 posted on 05/03/2013 7:49:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: smoothsailing

He forgot to tell ya to turn it around and beat the guy with the stock I guess.


17 posted on 05/03/2013 7:52:40 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: cripplecreek

Well it could happen.

I did not realize he had said to fire both barrels in the air. Yeah he is stupid alright.


18 posted on 05/03/2013 7:53:04 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: smoothsailing
The usual Alinsky type digs, jibes and ridicule DOES NOT WORK against Sen. Cruz, which makes the lefties (and RINOs) bite their fingers in wrath even more. Good job, Ted, keep it up!
19 posted on 05/03/2013 7:53:27 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: smoothsailing

Cruz is a blast!


20 posted on 05/03/2013 7:53:41 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

I like him...


21 posted on 05/03/2013 7:54:33 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: RobbyS

Birdshot will do.


22 posted on 05/03/2013 7:55:59 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: yarddog

A shotgun is a worthless defensive weapon if you follow Joe’s advice and fire both barrels in the air. BOTH barrels. What does Joe do next, talk his attackers to sleep? :)


23 posted on 05/03/2013 7:56:53 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: yarddog

On the other hand, from what I’m hearing out of the NBA, I might just have to shoot through the door to avoid being man raped. LOL


24 posted on 05/03/2013 7:59:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: smoothsailing
This explains everything! He's unstoppable! Looks like he's put on a few pounds and changed his hair style, but has the same attitude.


25 posted on 05/03/2013 8:00:57 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cableguymn

LOL! That Joe, I bet he’s always forgetting stuff!


26 posted on 05/03/2013 8:01:28 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The way he sent Feinstein DIFI into a tantrum was a home run.

And he just sat there watching her with a touch of a smile while she ranted.

He is really good at it. Really clever and good self control. A lethal weapon.

27 posted on 05/03/2013 8:01:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: cuban leaf
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28 posted on 05/03/2013 8:10:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: yarddog

True but they also want to outlaw tactical shotguns.

Collapsible stock, pistol grip, too many shells in the magazine, short barrel.

The typical hunting style shotgun is not very useful in cramped quarters such as a hallway.


29 posted on 05/03/2013 8:12:46 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: KC_Lion

LOL thought of Dunk Hunt immediately after reading what Cruz said..you know, with the leftist idiocy going on now..if Nintendo had a dunk hunt game with a gun the media would go nuts..I still have my Nintendo, with gun..one of the best games ever made


30 posted on 05/03/2013 8:17:18 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: cripplecreek

Looks like there is an actual adult in the room.


31 posted on 05/03/2013 8:29:09 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

There is at least one man in the US Senate with the Right Stuff.


32 posted on 05/03/2013 8:32:44 PM PDT by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: yarddog

Yep. A 12 gauge hi-brass has about four times the muzzle energy of a .44 magnum, and the longer the barrel the better.
Slow Joe meets blind squirrel.


33 posted on 05/03/2013 8:37:27 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: chris37

Those body guards for Michail Corleone when he returned to Sicily, Were carrying short barreled Luparos. I think both were Berettas. They each had a sling.

They are very short and handy since they have no pump or automatic action to add 3 inches to the length.

If they had auto ejectors they would also be very quick to reload from loose shells in your pocket or a pair of shells carried between your fingers.


34 posted on 05/03/2013 8:41:29 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: yarddog

Cruz is interesting. Just hope he fights back and doesn’t go all tv Hollywood like the palins did. But he better be worried most about rove and the GOP, not the dems.


35 posted on 05/03/2013 8:48:22 PM PDT by Deathtomarxists (yellow black or white hillary's pantsuits stink by night!!)
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To: Robert357; smoothsailing
Joe has given a lot of very bad advice on self defense, but that doesn't mean a shot gun is only good for waterfowl.

I think the point that Cruz was trying to make is that Joe said to shoot UP IN THE AIR, which was why he referred to 'waterfowl'.

36 posted on 05/03/2013 8:51:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: smoothsailing; yarddog
What does Joe do next, talk his attackers to sleep?

He invites them to his secret underground lair in the basement of his house.

37 posted on 05/03/2013 8:53:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: yarddog

Yes, but SBS is a class 3 firearm. 18” is the minimum legal barrel length for people without a class 3 license.

And they want to outlaw the type of shotgun that features 18” or 18.5 inch barrels.


38 posted on 05/03/2013 8:54:08 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: pallis

An idiot, but not to the people of DE!


39 posted on 05/03/2013 9:12:59 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: smoothsailing

Ted takes it to Biteme.


40 posted on 05/03/2013 9:44:48 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: mnehring

Most cities have an ordinance against discharging a firearm within city limits. If there is no body on your property YOU will go to jail. Saying I fired a warning shot won’t cut it unless you are on good terms with judge.


41 posted on 05/03/2013 10:04:45 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: glyptol

Let’s not forget, what goes up must come down (learned that at a young age squirrel hunting).


42 posted on 05/03/2013 10:08:12 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Robert357; smoothsailing; cripplecreek
Joe has given a lot of very bad advice on self defense, but that doesn't mean a shot gun is only good for waterfowl.

But Biden said to shoot the shotgun into the air not at an assailant.

43 posted on 05/03/2013 10:26:05 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: smoothsailing

Biden also suggested firing blindly through doors.


44 posted on 05/03/2013 10:29:35 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: smoothsailing

Ted breaks out a can of sarcastic whoop-ass yet again. If Cruz had been debating Biden last year, instead of Paul ‘Homo-adoption’ Ryan, this clown wouldn’t have been smiling by the end.


45 posted on 05/03/2013 10:33:34 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: smoothsailing

46 posted on 05/03/2013 10:52:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: rhinohunter

with a 12 gauge its even easier....


47 posted on 05/03/2013 10:53:03 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: mnehring

Know what you mean. When I was in Austin a few years ago on the 4th of July there were some idiots shooting in the air and I had the shot OO buck land on the roof. Found them in the rain gutter in the morning.Stupid fools.


48 posted on 05/03/2013 10:53:54 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks smoothsailing.


49 posted on 05/03/2013 11:36:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: smoothsailing

THIS is how one defeats progressives... THIS is how we use alinsky against them... and this is the man.

LLS


50 posted on 05/04/2013 5:34:39 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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