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Tamerlan, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev July 4 attack? Feds say Boston suspects planned suicide-bomb attack
WPTV-TV / CNN ^ | May 3, 2013 | Steve Almasy, CNN

Posted on 05/03/2013 9:31:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The bombs used in the Boston Marathon attack were built in the apartment that suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev shared with his wife and child, a U.S. law enforcement official with first-hand knowledge of the investigation told CNN on Thursday. The official was not authorized to release the information.

Katherine Russell, Tsarnaev's widow, has remained largely out of view inside her parents' North Kingstown home since her husband's death.

It remains unclear what, if anything, Tamerlan's widow might have known or suspected, the source added.

According to her attorney, Amato DeLuca, the 24-year-old widow knew nothing of plans to bomb the race, and reports of her husband's involvement came as an "absolute shock" to Russell and her family.

Tsarnaev and his younger brother, Dzhokhar, initially planned to carry out a suicide-bomb attack on July 4, a U.S. law enforcement official regularly briefed on the Boston bombing investigation told CNN. The source said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told investigators their bombs were ready earlier than they expected and they decided to move up the date.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told investigators that the Boston Marathon was chosen as a target only a day or two before the event, the source said.

It is unclear which specific event would have been targeted but one of the biggest July Fourth celebrations in the country is held in Boston. The annual Boston Pops Fireworks Spectacular hosts 500,000 spectators, according to the event's website. It is televised live nationally on CBS.

The revelation comes the same day the body of Tamerlan Tsarnaev was claimed by his family and later was picked up by a funeral home, according to Terrel Harris, spokesman for the Massachusetts office of the chief medical examiner.....

(Excerpt) Read more at wptv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boston; bostonmarathon; bostonmassacre; islam; islamicterrorism; islamicviolence; islamism; jihad; jihadinamerica; muslims; qitalislam; terrorism; tsarnaev; wot
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1 posted on 05/03/2013 9:31:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, is the child in custody yet?


2 posted on 05/03/2013 9:37:27 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

were they ordered to move it up by the Saudi financiers?


3 posted on 05/03/2013 9:38:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"According to her attorney, Amato DeLuca, the 24-year-old widow knew nothing of plans to bomb the race, and reports of her husband's involvement came as an "absolute shock" to Russell and her family."

She, their daughter and the terrorists lived in one apartment and she knows nothing about what is going on.

Puleezeeeeeee.............

4 posted on 05/03/2013 9:43:09 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird
"According to her attorney, Amato DeLuca, the 24-year-old widow knew nothing of plans to bomb the race

Honey, have you seen my pressure cooker?


5 posted on 05/03/2013 9:52:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The bombs used in the Boston Marathon attack were built in the apartment that suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev shared with his wife and child, a U.S. law enforcement official with first-hand knowledge of the investigation told CNN on Thursday."

Had to post this again...

Again, Pulezzie..........

6 posted on 05/03/2013 9:53:03 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: hummingbird
re: She, their daughter and the terrorists lived in one apartment and she knows nothing about what is going on.
Puleezeeeeeee.............

I agree. My BS meter is slanting to the far left. Either this mom is dumb as rocks, their apartment had a room in which she was forbidden to enter, or she had knowledge something was going on. But if there was a room she was forbidden to enter, she had to know something was going on. If they didn't have an extra room in their small apartment from which she was forbidden to go into, it seems to me that she would have to have noticed the bomb-making supplies. Even if she didn't know what they were for, she would have to have wondered. If she knew that her husband had bomb making supplies in their apartment, she is a negligent mother. The fact that she married a Muslim says that she may not be too bright. On the other hand, if she was brought up to be a liberal, she might not have realized the danger. Regardless, I think there are enough questions to conclude that she is not telling the total truth.

7 posted on 05/03/2013 9:55:41 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Nevadan

re: My BS meter is slanting to the far left.

Actually, the far right.


8 posted on 05/03/2013 9:56:44 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Moved it up because Benghazi was heating up?


9 posted on 05/03/2013 10:00:58 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: hummingbird
Correction.

Apparently, it was Terrorist #1, his wife and child. But, her b-i-l had a dorm room.

Guess he just visited his brother to make bombs that Terrowist's wife knew nothing about.

Right..............

10 posted on 05/03/2013 10:01:50 AM PDT by hummingbird (So much conspiracy and not enough time.)
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To: Nevadan

11 posted on 05/03/2013 10:02:55 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh they lived in an APARTMENT. There is no way she didn’t know what he was doing. Unless that was a Manhattan style big place she had to have seen what was going on.

Didn’t they find female DNA on the components? I haven’t heard anything more about that but some of you all might have.


12 posted on 05/03/2013 10:03:59 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s see....

Uncle was married to daughter of former high level CIA Chief

Uncle involved with Eastern Bloc Oligarchs and defends one that is on the run for 6 billion theft in a statement that accuses other Oligarch and his President father in law.

Uncle clearly knows Chechen Mafia

US warned by multiple countries about Dead Nephew.

Uncle broke ties with nephews because of rising religious zeal..in one statement supposedly in 2005

Saudi Royalty suspect is missing

Saudi Arabia plays gotcha tag with US about the written warning.

A judge waltzes in and sees to it that Bomber #2 is mirandized.

YET, the U.S. knew nothing about Dead Bomber.

Nor did his wife.

Not believable.


13 posted on 05/03/2013 10:05:30 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: penelopesire

>ping!<


14 posted on 05/03/2013 10:13:31 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Nevadan

Let’s see, suppose speedbump has a private room. There he keeps a remote control car (gift to amuse baby), a pressure cooker (gift for wife), wire (to rewire m-i-l’s favorite lamp), vaseline (gift for himself). None of these items would make me suspect anything. Have I missed any ingredient? an obamaphone? what else?

Brother takes care of the powder in his dorm.

Wife suspects nothing.


15 posted on 05/03/2013 10:22:23 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t be true.

Didn’t the Hussein administration say it was because of ‘tax day”


16 posted on 05/03/2013 10:23:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: RummyChick

Read carefully. “Wife knew nothing of the marathon bombing”
It doesn’t say she knew nothing of plans for bombing another location at another time

Who is the uncle married to?


17 posted on 05/03/2013 10:36:11 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This whole story doesn't add up. The bombs were made in the apartment where the mother and child resided and she never knew about them? She is either dumber than the proverbial “box of rocks” or lying like a rug. I am inclined to believe she is lying but possibly not about having no knowledge of the bombs in the apartment.

What makes me think there is a whole lot more to this is the LE source saying that the surviving brother/bomber stated “The bombs were ready earlier than expected”? What did the 2 guys do put in a order at Bombs-R-US like you order a birthday cake? That is really weird. From what I have read they were instrumental in the building of these devices implying control over the construction process and they didn't use unstable compounds with a short use time window like TATP.

They also moved up their strike date from July 4th which would have been a far better date to strike for maximum PR terror effect. Its like someone in the back ground made the bombs for them to use and the 2 brothers and their school buddies were just the operations team/fall guys. I believe something happened to cause the real drivers in this operation to become rushed for time and plan “B” went into effect. Its just not being let out who are the real shadow players are and the “talented amateurs” pulled the attack off earlier than planned and are taking the heat.

18 posted on 05/03/2013 10:36:41 AM PDT by Polynikes (Yo Homie. That my briefcase?)
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To: Polynikes

Why were they in Malden, MA the night before with the bombs in the back packs? Who did they visit in Malden? Why isn’t the FBI all over Malden Square?


19 posted on 05/03/2013 10:39:47 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Polynikes
As an afterthought it would be interesting to see what was going on in the news in the preceding weeks and days just prior to when the brothers moved the date up.
20 posted on 05/03/2013 10:46:02 AM PDT by Polynikes (Yo Homie. That my briefcase?)
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To: Diogenesis

What makes you think there were “financiers,” Saudi or otherwise? The devices they used were relatively simple and used relatively inexpensive components.


21 posted on 05/03/2013 10:47:32 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: massgopguy

Exactly. This whole story has more holes than a piece of swiss cheese.


22 posted on 05/03/2013 10:48:19 AM PDT by Polynikes (Yo Homie. That my briefcase?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; OwenKellogg; bunster; thouworm; maggief; onyx; AllAmericanGirl44; ...

Boston Bombing Ping!

Thanks Rain Drop!!


23 posted on 05/03/2013 10:53:48 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: massgopguy

They were in Malden?


24 posted on 05/03/2013 11:00:03 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: Nevadan

He built the bombs in the basement says his brother.


25 posted on 05/03/2013 11:01:10 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: Polynikes
I believe something happened to cause the real drivers in this operation to become rushed for time and plan “B” went into effect.

Plan "A" was to place the blame on a White male Christian Tea Party type. Remember when they said they had made an arrest and the press had staked out the court house then suddenly there was a phony bomb scare, the court house was evacuated and that story fell down the memory hole? I think the local cops arrested the real perps but the Feds swooped and put an end to that real quick.

26 posted on 05/03/2013 11:03:05 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: penelopesire

So wait a second, if their original plan was a 4th of July event which included suicide, how did the suicide part change when they changed the date?

I’m so tired of these idiots yanking my chain with this ever changing story.


27 posted on 05/03/2013 11:07:08 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
“if their original plan was a 4th of July event which included suicide, how did the suicide part change when they changed the date?”

I noticed that too. Its like there was a Plan B on file but it never was really worked out. Consequently the blow back(no pun intended)upset everything and damage control kicked in causing some players to wing it.

28 posted on 05/03/2013 11:33:02 AM PDT by Polynikes (Yo Homie. That my briefcase?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It was supposed to be 4th of July but they changes it to the Boston marathon just 2 days before.

Shazzam! The bombing in Boston was spontaneous.

Then after Boston they planned to attack NYC in another spontaneous attack.

See, this terrorist attack has proved Hillary right, terrorist really do act in a spontaneous manner and don't plan their attacks in advance.

Repeat after me “It's just a coincidence”.

29 posted on 05/03/2013 12:25:53 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember reading that the wife was working up to 80 hours a week.

If it is true that she regularly worked double shifts, then she was at work or sleeping most of the time and her lazy ass husband had plenty of time to build bombs and clean up and put things away.


30 posted on 05/03/2013 12:35:30 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Polynikes

It’s not hard to believe that the wife knew nothing. She worked 80 hours a week which means she wasn’t home very much. A lot can get accomplished when the wife isn’t there.

Secondly, these men don’t value their women as people. They are beneath camels, goats and DOGs even, in fact a goat has more value than a woman. They are nothing more than maids and baby making machines. Those men don’t talk to their wives unless they have to hide under her burkah and then it’s nothing more than an order she has to obey.

So, is it conceivable that she wouldn’t know? Yep.

The rest is swiss cheese.


31 posted on 05/03/2013 12:46:31 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: hoosiermama

WAS married to Graham Fuller’s daughter


32 posted on 05/03/2013 12:46:41 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Excellent point!


33 posted on 05/03/2013 12:50:35 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: RummyChick

btw, Graham Fuller was involved in Iran/Contra

Is suppose to be an expert in Islamic Extremism

And was involved with a corporation that likely had CIA ties after he left the CIA.

Oh, and Uncle had ties with USAID..known to frequently be used as a CIA cover.


34 posted on 05/03/2013 12:51:20 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Polynikes

“I noticed that too. Its like there was a Plan B on file but it never was really worked out. Consequently the blow back(no pun intended)upset everything and damage control kicked in causing some players to wing it. “

Or dead Brother was a CIA asset that went rogue and decided to wing it. Interesting history about his application for a Russian passport and how he left it behind in Russia.

Haven’t looked into all the details to see how much looks like reality.

As someone pointed out...Russia could have alerted US to Dead Bomber to see what the US would do as a test to see if he was an asset.


35 posted on 05/03/2013 12:54:40 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

So was the warning from the Saudi and Russia turned over to one of the UNCLE friends?


36 posted on 05/03/2013 12:57:55 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

Russian and Ukraine mafia have a certain reputation for brutality.

The old saying went something like the US Mafia would only come after you but the Russian mafia would come after you , your whole family, and your dog.

I don’t know much about the Chechen mafia.

Wiki indicates they are big drug dealers and Putin has tried to link them to Al Qaeda.

What I do know is that Uncle ran with the bigwigs of Chechnya.

I doubt the bigwigs became Oligarchs without some Mafia influence somewhere.

I doubt he married into a high level former CIA family without being vetted.

I doubt the US received Warnings without someone here finding out about and/or knowing about said Uncle.


37 posted on 05/03/2013 1:09:26 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: hoosiermama

Was the Female DNA from the hospitalized Saudis???

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3015458/posts


38 posted on 05/03/2013 1:20:35 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
This whole affair is a real Puzzle Palace. There are so many twists,turns and nuances it can make your head hurt. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what it is intended to do so the low info voter looses interest grabs a beer from the fridge and goes back to watching “Dancing with the Stars”.

I wonder if all this is more than one operation going on simultaneously? Ours, Theirs, Rogue assets, plain old ordinary terrorism, FBI sting gone bad, and/or cross/double cross. What a mess.

39 posted on 05/03/2013 1:26:40 PM PDT by Polynikes (Yo Homie. That my briefcase?)
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To: Polynikes

We know Russia would like to destablize the West.

Putin is probably applauding the disaster that is Obama.

But now he sends Russia Today out to start with the false flag stories.

For all we know, Russia is behind this Bombing.

It really is a massive Circle Jerk.


40 posted on 05/03/2013 1:30:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/islam/daughter-ex-cia-agent-graham-fuller-once-married-tsarnaev-brothers-uncle

Says he even lived in CIA family home for a while. English wasn’t too good so they spoke in Russian. Seems fine now

Getting stranger and stranger


41 posted on 05/03/2013 2:11:04 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: RummyChick

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/islam/daughter-ex-cia-agent-graham-fuller-once-married-tsarnaev-brothers-uncle

Says he even lived in CIA family home for a while. English wasn’t too good so they spoke in Russian. Seems fine now

Getting stranger and stranger


42 posted on 05/03/2013 2:12:59 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

Hmmmmmmm...so did the daughter speak Russian???????
If English is so bad you have to speak Russian...how do you fall in love????

I guess it is possible

Love at first sight.


43 posted on 05/03/2013 2:16:16 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: hoosiermama

Guess who were neighbors in Chechnya???

Batukaev family

Mafia

there is so much more to this story.

http://www.rferl.org/content/tsarnaev-childhood-family-kyrgyzstan-chechnya-daghestan/24963691.html


44 posted on 05/03/2013 2:26:06 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Oops, sorry - not technically Chechnya

It’s the North Caucusas


45 posted on 05/03/2013 2:28:01 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What are they doing with the stiff? I hope someone at the morgue “accidently” bumped the temp way up in his cooler.


46 posted on 05/03/2013 2:37:05 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: hoosiermama

We can thank Uncle Ruslan’s ex CIA father in law for helping the crazy Islamists.

“The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army,” explains a former CIA analyst. “The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter Chinese influence in Central Asia.” In a certain sense, the Cold War is still going on. For years Graham Fuller, former Deputy Director of the National Council on Intelligence at the CIA, has been talking up the “modernizing virtues” of the Islamists, insisting on their anti-Statist concept of the economy. Listening to him, you would almost take the Taleban and their Wahhabi allies for liberals. “Islam, in theory at least, is firmly anchored in the traditions of free trade and private enterprise,” wrote Fuller. “The prophet was a trader, as was his first wife. Islam does not glorify the State’s role in the economy.”

Richard Labévière, Dollars for Terror: The United States and Islam, New York: Algora Publishing, 2000, p. 6


47 posted on 05/03/2013 2:39:47 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

From what I understand, it was very tiny apartment. Otherwise, I might think he could have hidden the bombs in his “prayer room.” cough cough Most Muslims I hear talking about prayer rooms seem to indicate that they are for men only.

But no way they had room for a prayer room, so who knows where they could have hidden the bomb making paraphernala.

So she’s either lying or dumb as rocks, but genetics say otherwise. (Dad a physician and mom a nurse.)


48 posted on 05/03/2013 2:48:43 PM PDT by GSD Lover
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To: hoosiermama

Just so you know...

wife of Dead Bomber is granddaughter of Richard Warren Russell...member of Skull and Crossbones.

http://hosting-24281.tributes.com/show/Richard-Warren-Russell-92719945


49 posted on 05/03/2013 3:54:30 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Geeeeezzz


50 posted on 05/03/2013 5:50:17 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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