Posted on 05/03/2013 8:30:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
It seems Tamara Holder, one of Fox's in-house liberal commentators, is a tad confused on the subjects infanticide and abortion. As the following segment makes clear, Holder only appears certain of one thing: She's no fan of this Lila Rose character, nor of her pro-life investigative group, Live Action. Scroll ahead to the 2:50 mark, where things got a little heated -- for one of the participants, at least:
Lila Rose v Tamara Holder Debate Bronx Infanticide Undercover Video - Sean Hannity - 4-30-13
Right off the bat, Holder makes a string of errors. She mispronounces Rose's name, wrongly asserts that Rose herself appeared in the undercover videos (in fact, Live Action volunteers who were actually six months pregnant filmed the exposes), and appears to deny that post-birth killing qualifies as infanticide. She also tosses out the tried-and-true "selective editing" accusation, which is a fair critique in some cases, but not in this one. Rose calmly notes that the full videos are available online. The really interesting bit of the exchange, though, comes when Rose and Hannity ask Holder when she believes a fetus becomes a child (terms that she momentarily conflates, then corrects herself). She ducks the question three times. First, she waxes poetic about the rule of law and representative democracy. Fine, but what does she believe? Next, she throws the question back at Rose, who confidently offers a cogent reply. When does 'protectable' life begin, Hannity presses; "nine months?" Holder laughs and scoffs, "nine months? No!" So a fetus does transform into a baby at some stage of pregnancy, but she never says when. This line of inquiry -- which gets to the heart of the abortion debate -- is interrupted by commercial break. In the next segment, Holder at least summons the clarity to reject Kermit Gosnell as a "disgusting, disgusting criminal person," if he's found guilty. (Speaking of which, three days of deliberations and still no verdict from the jury. Could they possibly be hung on this guy, or are they making their way through more than 200 counts? LifeSiteNews reports much of the discussion appears to be centered around Gosnell's co-defendant). Meanwhile, Live Action released its third late-term abortion video yesterday, this time from a clinic in Arizona. Pull quote: "Uh, no. They do not resuscitate."
Inhuman: Undercover in America's Late-Term Abortion Industry - Arizona
Ed Morrissey notes another revealing portion of the conversation, wherein the doctor advises her prospective "patient" not to go to the hospital if she enters premature labor:
Dr. Mercer: No, call us first…if you showed up in an average emergency room with an emergency room physician who’s not a gynecologist, probably has never seen or done a termination, they will treat you as though you are somebody with a desired pregnancy…Investigator: So they would basically like try to take care of it.
Dr. Mercer: Right they would intervene and do all kinds of crazy things that you don’t need to have done to you…
Dr. Santangelo gave an eerily similar admonition to the young woman in Washington, DC. If you're giving birth, call me first. Don't go to the hospital where they may do "crazy" and "stupid" things, like try to save the child. What a sick world these people inhabit.
Tamara Holder....Jesse’s babymama (or one of them). Difficult to say which of them must have been more desperate.
outlaw abortions. life begins at conception. if the feminists don’t like it, let them withhold sex in protest.
LIFE is the most precious of our natural rights.
teeman
I wish Hannity would quit having her on his show, both his radio and tv, can’t stand her. Isn’t she the one that told Michelle Malkin on live tv that she needed to go get laid? That should have been the end right there. She is rude & crude.
I do too, but I just mute her like I do every liberal lunatic. One thing you have to admit, he does not let go when they try do dance around instead of answering his question
Tamara Holder is one of the reasons that I haven’t tuned in to Fox News since November 6th. Tamara, Bob B, Juan and Bill O can all KMA. Not one of them has the ability to utilize their intellect and view anything beyond their little east coast cacoons.
No. That would be offensive to peas.
Tamara Holder has a hard sharp bitterness to her, perhaps she is a reptilian
Hopefully she has not spawned
I vote, yes.
With this generous exposure comes "celebrity" appearance fees, lecture fees, panel-participation fees, writing fees and other income, often up to 10 figure$ per gig, depending on their notoriety or fame, whichever.
Thanks, Fox, these dedicated and activist enemies of the Republic couldn't have done it without you. You made them what they are today.
Leni
I can’t believe I actually suffered through and watched that last night. All I can add beyond the obvious, is that she looks like plastic surgery gone wrong.
Ugly inside and out and a master at avoiding answering a direct question. Must be a skill they teach in the commie camps.
LOL
Lila Rose is a beautiful, noble-hearted young woman of flawless courage. I’ve had the honor to meet her; we share friends in this battle. She is a heroine and a splendid example of a Christian warrior.
Tamara Holder is quite possibly the dumbest female I have ever heard speak.
She is an absolute blithering moron.
When she comes on, Sean goes off.
With all those facial contortions and refusal to refer to a baby as anything other than ‘it’, it would appear Tamara Holder is quite uncomfortable with the graphic description of killing a baby. Looks like guilt to me. Wonder if she aborted Jesse’s ‘it’.
I think he has them on to show in the spotlight how they think for everyone to see, that’s the point.
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