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Armed Fargo men accused of threatening teens they thought were terrorizing neighborhood
Inforum ^ | 5/2/13 | Dave Olson

Posted on 05/02/2013 2:36:13 PM PDT by Last Dakotan

FARGO – Two of three men who confronted a group of juveniles they suspected of terrorizing a south Fargo neighborhood Saturday night have been charged with a crime.

The case puts a spotlight on the risk residents take when they intervene in what they believe is illegal behavior, police said.

And because the confrontation between three men and three 15-year-old boys involved firearms, the incident has parents wondering how close their children came to being shot.

(Excerpt) Read more at inforum.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; guncontrol; juveniles; secondamendment
Though I would have left the AR (identified as a M-4 semi-automatic) in the gun safe, its hard to fault much more of what this guy did to stop the harassment.

As always the parents don't seem to know what the big deal is over their innocent little children.

1 posted on 05/02/2013 2:36:13 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

I guess that it’s legal in North Dakota for 15 year old kids to drive SUVs without an adult in the car? I know far younger kids can drive farm (i.e., off-road) equipment.


2 posted on 05/02/2013 2:40:41 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Last Dakotan

I think these guys need to get a jury trial.


3 posted on 05/02/2013 2:40:56 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is v?ery late in the day.")
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To: Last Dakotan

Earlier this week, Mr NEMDF chased down some kids who had been repeatedly cutting through the yard and climbing the fence. Drove around the block and found them all out playing basketball. The mother came out while he was yelling at the boys (from inside the car), and the first thing she said was she was sure they did not understand they should not cut through there. Yeah... they are probably not younger than 7th grade, and there are NO TRESPASSING signs, besides we have yelled at them numerous times. There is a high literacy rate in our neighborhood, so I don’t think that is the problem. The next time, we will call the police.


4 posted on 05/02/2013 2:41:37 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: House Atreides
I guess that it’s legal in North Dakota for 15 year old kids to drive SUVs without an adult in the car?

You can get a permit at only 14 in ND.

5 posted on 05/02/2013 2:47:23 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: NEMDF

What she meant is that she and their father (if there is one) have not taught their brats to respect personal property.


6 posted on 05/02/2013 2:48:57 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Last Dakotan

You can get a permit at only 14 in ND.
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Do the young permit holder have to have an adult or at least a licensed driver with him when they’re driving late at night?

I’m so used to the restrictive driving laws here in the People’s Democratic Republic of Maryland.


7 posted on 05/02/2013 2:50:08 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Last Dakotan

I am always amazed how much crime the police will ignore.

But how quick and determines the police become if they think “citizens” might try to stop crime themselves.

Can have those citizens getting uppity.


8 posted on 05/02/2013 2:51:02 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Last Dakotan

Conservatives need to elect constitutional sheriffs in their counties. I have one. He sends his deputies on stake-outs to catch punks who vandalize and break into buildings. It works. Elected sheriffs are very responsive to their voting constituents. Get one today before they’re all gone.


9 posted on 05/02/2013 2:54:01 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: House Atreides

Iowa also has “school licenses” for 14 year olds.


10 posted on 05/02/2013 2:54:14 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: NEMDF

...sounds like your typical Red Hampshire parents...neither kids NOR parents have any respect for private property...


11 posted on 05/02/2013 2:54:34 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Last Dakotan

I would not have pressed charges against the victims, but apparently the Fargo police thought it would be politically beneficial to do so. As a juror, I would need a whole lot of convincing, and the word of the hoodlums (driving around unsupervised at 11:00 pm???) would be unlikely to do the job. Just as the government lost black trust long ago and could not convict OJ even of an obvious murder with extensive evidence, the government has lost my confidence and trust, and they will need a whole lot on their side to convict someone who is accused of something ambiguous. Sorry, but I’m not going to automatically believe these brats were on an innocent iced tea and Skittles run.


12 posted on 05/02/2013 2:59:33 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Last Dakotan

This is how kids turn out when they are given a ‘time out’ instead of an ass-tanning on their early days...


13 posted on 05/02/2013 3:00:03 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Last Dakotan

These ‘children’ are lying thru their damn teeth...parents, as well.


14 posted on 05/02/2013 3:04:42 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

The parents are probably of limited intelligence and don’t know what their kids have been up to.


15 posted on 05/02/2013 3:08:21 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Last Dakotan

They really should have brought different weapons when confronting the kids. A cattle prod would be more to the point, and maybe a thick leather belt. If one had a gun, it should be concealed carry, and not brandished unless absolutely necessary.


16 posted on 05/02/2013 4:07:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Last Dakotan
the incident has parents wondering how close their children came to being shot.

They should have beaten the tails off those little sh**s long ago.

17 posted on 05/02/2013 5:14:58 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: NEMDF

It’s the parents that teach their children respect, respect for their elders, for other peoples property, etc. My Grandson is five and has no problem understanding when I teach him to respect other neighbors property.


18 posted on 05/02/2013 5:45:10 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Last Dakotan
"Parents of two of the three boys who were in the car Saturday night say the incident terrified their children."

Probably not. The parental units need some training.

19 posted on 05/02/2013 5:50:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2banana
I am always amazed how much crime the police will ignore.

The indifference with which this case was treated by the FPD is the reason it escalated as it did.

20 posted on 05/02/2013 5:54:48 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

They really should have brought different weapons when confronting the kids. A cattle prod would be more to the point, and maybe a thick leather belt. If one had a gun, it should be concealed carry, and not brandished unless absolutely necessary.


Actually, a pocket full of shingle nails “accidently” dropped on the ground around the tires would have made it a long night for the kids and their parents.


21 posted on 05/02/2013 7:05:16 PM PDT by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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To: NEMDF

Be sure to videotape the brats trespassing before calling the police. It really helps shut up obnoxious parents.


22 posted on 05/02/2013 7:29:25 PM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: House Atreides

From what I researched, a permit holder cannot drive after dark, and must have a licensed driver at least 18 years of age with at least three years of driving experience in the car when driving during the day.


23 posted on 05/02/2013 8:10:32 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Last Dakotan

My wife has family in Minot N.D., as well as in other parts of the state. Crime and juvenile delinquency is becoming a big problem there.


24 posted on 05/02/2013 8:11:57 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad

Thanks SoldierDad, I thought there was likely to be student driver laws such as that. So the driver was in violation of the driving laws as well as the fairly obvious mischief. There are some dumb ass parents there who need to get a clue instead of letting their kids run wild.


25 posted on 05/02/2013 8:18:04 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Yes, there are. And, not just in Fargo. Minot has lots of problems with juveniles as well. Including my sister-in-law’s children. My wife (who is from Minot) and I left there in 1983, and have not regretted the move. Though, due to the political climate here in CA, I’m looking at the possibility of a move to a conservative state.


26 posted on 05/02/2013 10:32:49 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: IAGeezer912

There is much to be said about the shingle nail technique, especially if there is a moving target. However, the hard part is policing up the extras after the fact, to avoid collateral damage.


27 posted on 05/03/2013 6:36:54 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Perhaps you would be correct if this was the fist time. Or even the second or third.

I read the article. These teens had been harrassing the neighborhood for months. A cattle prod would not have stopped them.


28 posted on 05/03/2013 7:25:45 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

I think these guys need to get a jury trial.

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I agree. That is - if you mean “these guys” you mean the punk teenagers. The men who were arrested? They need an apology and all charges dropped.


29 posted on 05/03/2013 7:28:26 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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