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Religious Groups Fear Christian Purge From Military
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Posted on 05/01/2013 12:10:53 PM PDT by Java4Jay

Religious liberty groups have grave concerns after they learned the Pentagon is vetting its guide on religious tolerance with a group that compared Christian evangelism to “rape” and advocated that military personnel who proselytize should be court martialed.

Pentagon officials met to discuss a policy called “Air Force Culture, Air Force Standards,” published on Aug. 7, 2012.

Section 2.11 requires “government neutrality regarding religion.”

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The Pentagon under the Obama Administration has acknowledged seizing and burning the privately owned Bibles of American soldiers serving in Afghanistan.

Anyone see a pattern?

1 posted on 05/01/2013 12:10:53 PM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: Java4Jay

Every Christian should leave and not join the Military.


2 posted on 05/01/2013 12:12:18 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: NoLibZone

Bump


3 posted on 05/01/2013 12:13:55 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Java4Jay

Butt sex in your barracks is fine though


4 posted on 05/01/2013 12:14:31 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Java4Jay

If we only had a dedicated leader in Congress to take this fight head on. I mean they want to fight about God and morality, our religious freedoms; bring it on. The country needs a spiritual cleansing, Imo. Maybe, one day before it’s too late, that will happen.


5 posted on 05/01/2013 12:15:24 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: NoLibZone

Every Christian should stay and more should join.

Christians should NOT cut and run.
Christians should STAND and Overcome!


6 posted on 05/01/2013 12:18:26 PM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: weston

“Christians should NOT cut and run.”

Every Christian should seek God’s will for their path in life. There isn’t a universal path for all.


7 posted on 05/01/2013 12:21:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: GeronL
Butt sex in your barracks is fine though

You misspelled Barack.

8 posted on 05/01/2013 12:23:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Lol


9 posted on 05/01/2013 12:24:21 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Java4Jay

The House Armed Services Committee need to call people in the upper echelon of the military to account IMMEDIATELY about this. If this policy is coming from the White House, as I feel supremely confident it is, it is time to light a fire under Obama that will not go out!!!!! Criminally outrageous and slanderous are words that come to mind, but somehow do not come close to the magnitude of the circumstances.

Meanwhile, Major Hasan still collects a military check and awaits a trial that should have taken place many months ago.


10 posted on 05/01/2013 12:24:59 PM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: NoLibZone

“Every Christian should leave and not join the Military.”

Actually, Christians and Jews should join the military and be prepared to resist when the time comes.

No sense in giving up that tactical position.


11 posted on 05/01/2013 12:27:23 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Java4Jay

“Why would military leadership be meeting with one of the most rabid atheists in America to discuss religious freedom in the military. That’s like consulting with China on how to improve human rights.”


12 posted on 05/01/2013 12:30:17 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: weston

There ya go.

They think in a country as ours the military will be filled with non Christians.

Right. Homosexuals comprise 4% of the entire population. They’re going to take over the military?

Atheists are going to take over the military? With what motivation? God and Country? Defend one’s family?

Muslims are going to take over?

Hmm. Well, they do have a lot of money, and some are motivated to move in.


13 posted on 05/01/2013 12:31:03 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Java4Jay

“This language from Weinstein that Christians who share their faith or offer comfort to others from their faith in Jesus Christ is “sedition and treason” is a treasonous statement in and of itself.”

This says exactly what I think. Weinstein should be prosecuted for “sedition and treason” because he is attempting to deny military personnel 1st Ammendment Rights. In essence, he is attempting to suppress the COTUS...and “overthrow” a COTUS protected environment and government. That is TREASON.

I am sick to my soul of atheists that seem to think the COTUS provides them with a “religon free” America....it does no such thing.

The ONLY time someone has a complaint coming regardling religion in the public forum is IF they are FORCED to be recruited into a religious belief system. There are some that take great offense if a service member expresses “thanks to God” in a talk....not anything forcing anyone to believe anything. Just the mere mention of God is considered offensive.

It is my contention that “lack of belief” is a religion in of itself. So, to force silence on Christian belief is to FORCE a “unbelief” belief on others....which is coercive.


14 posted on 05/01/2013 12:32:52 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: NoLibZone; xzins
Every Christian should leave and not join the Military.

No every Christian Soldier should consider it his spiritual and patriotic duty to proselytize everyone they meet on base or in the field. This policy cannot stand scrutiny. Christians have a moral duty to disobey this policy.

I don't think the powers that be have the guts to try to enforce this policy.

15 posted on 05/01/2013 12:32:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Java4Jay

The Pentagon is vetting its guide on religious tolerance with this guy. Must read!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-l-weinstein/fundamentalist-christian-_b_3072651.html


16 posted on 05/01/2013 12:33:26 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Sola Veritas

those evil, fundamentalist Christian creatures and their spiritual heirs have taken refuge behind flimsy, well-worn, gauze-like euphemistic facades such as “family values” and “religious liberty.”

Michael L. Weinstein

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-l-weinstein/


17 posted on 05/01/2013 12:42:34 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

I call on all Southern Baptist children to consider a stint in the military. It’s time to make it happen.


18 posted on 05/01/2013 12:42:40 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: RatRipper

BHO may have said he was a Christian to get elected but clearly he is only a pawn of Satan and too many naive souls (including Christians) voted for him. Clearly he is on a mission to convert the nation to Islam and is using every tool at his disposal to get back at the Christian sector that sees him for what he is and won’t vote for him. He has declared war on patriots.


19 posted on 05/01/2013 12:44:32 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: NoLibZone
Every Christian should leave and not join the Military.

I am afraid you are right. I am glad I am already retired, and I told my son not to join either. These people could get so "programmed," that over a period of time, I could see where it might possibly be easy for them to fire on American civilians. Who knows for sure?

20 posted on 05/01/2013 12:46:46 PM PDT by Mark17 (My body is in California, but my heart is in the Philippines)
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To: weston

Every Christian should stay and more should join.

Christians should NOT cut and run.
Christians should STAND and Overcome!

Who do they think is actually going to fight the battles? The queers will cut and run at the first sign of conflict. You can’t win your enemy with fashion sense.


21 posted on 05/01/2013 12:47:04 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: NoLibZone; P-Marlowe
Every Christian should leave and not join the Military.

The last thing this nation needs is an atheistic, immoral military beholden to Obama and other socialists of his ilk. There will be a quick loss of freedom if folks do that. Can you say Tiananmen Square?

Americans should join the military in droves and disobey unlawful orders, for it is Army Regulation that a soldier is JUDICIALLY REQUIRED to DISOBEY an unlawful order, and they can be charged if they do NOT disobey an unlawful order.

22 posted on 05/01/2013 12:50:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: GeronL

anal sex hey OK,
cross dress hey OK
chaplains told to shut up about marriage, hey OK
homosexuals having sex and trying to claim married quarters, hey OK
accepting little pansy men like Manning hey OK
remove cross on camp hey OK
women on subs hey OK
women in combat hey OK

and a couple wonder why I don’t want my sons joining seals or marine recon anymore


23 posted on 05/01/2013 12:55:11 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Java4Jay

stunning how the military has been infested with PC in these last few years and how some still serving can’t see it because they would rather focus on their promotion


24 posted on 05/01/2013 12:56:10 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Java4Jay

Reminds me of the alleged litmus test.


25 posted on 05/01/2013 12:58:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: NoLibZone

That’s what I was going to say. If the military doesn’t want people of faith, then they should not join. The military can have all their gay/lesbians, though, that’s OK, as long as they are not religious.
What is this country coming to? Seems these days everything is turned upside down.


26 posted on 05/01/2013 1:03:15 PM PDT by Vinylly
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To: Java4Jay

Let the poliricians fight their wars with faggots, lesbians, arrogant lefty pussies and muslims.


27 posted on 05/01/2013 1:07:06 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Java4Jay

Bring it, Mikey.

Colonel, USAFR


28 posted on 05/01/2013 1:13:31 PM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: Vinylly
The problem is that this isn't the boy scouts we are talking about. It is not JCPenney. There is an actual, real need for the US Military. One that cannot be filled by just anyone.

If Ubomba's goal was to make it a safer world for our enemies then emptying the military of Christians and filling it with homosexuals is a great success for him.

29 posted on 05/01/2013 1:15:07 PM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: Iron Munro

At that point, they’ll do what they’ve been wanting to do all along, turn the military on the conservatives & Christians.


30 posted on 05/01/2013 1:15:14 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Java4Jay
Related threads:

Breaking: Pentagon Confirms May Court Martial Soldiers Who Share Christian Faith

Pentagon: Religious Proselytizing is Not Permitted (Court Martials?)

Religious Groups Fear Christian Purge From Military

Pentagon Grilled About Christians in Military

Obama’s Soldiers for Secularism

Again: US Army Officer Describes Mainstream Christian Groups as Extremists

Colo. Sheriff Alleges Shock Training to TheBlaze: DHS-Bound Official Warned Against ‘Christians
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"The Obama administration’s Department of Defense was caught training U.S. troops that Catholics, orthodox Jews, and evangelical Christians are to be considered “religious extremists,” even equating the major religions representing more than half of Americans with truly violent groups such as al-Qaeda, the Ku Klux Klan, and Hamas. After the explosive revelations hit the headlines, outrage promptly ensued. Now, critics are calling for an immediate public apology to the soldiers exposed to the hateful propaganda, as well as to the Christian and Jewish communities targeted in the presentation.

The latest scandal to hit the Obama administration and its handling of the military surrounds a so-called “Equal Opportunity” training course [33-pg PDF file] presented to U.S. Army Reserve forces in Pennsylvania. During the presentation, troops were subjected to a slideshow that included a segment on what was dubbed “religious extremism.” At the top of the list — the very first item — was “evangelical Christianity” in the United States. Also included were “ultra-Orthodox” Jews, Catholicism, fundamentalist Mormons, and “Islamophobia.”

[see article for other links]
Christians Are Extremists Like al-Qaeda, U.S. Army Taught Troops

PENTAGON TAPS ANTI-CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST [Weinstein] FOR RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE POLICY [April 28, 2013]

"Today, we face incredibly well-funded gangs of fundamentalist Christian monsters who terrorize their fellow Americans by forcing their weaponized and twisted version of Christianity upon their helpless subordinates in our nation’s armed forces."

Those words were recently written by Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), in a column he wrote for the Huffington Post. Weinstein will be a consultant to the Pentagon to develop new policies on religious tolerance, including a policy for court-martialing military chaplains who share the Christian Gospel during spiritual counseling of American troops.

Weinstein decries what he calls the “virulent religious oppression” perpetrated by conservative Christians, whom he refers to as “monstrosities” and “pitiable unconstitutional carpetbaggers,” comparing them to “bigots” in the Deep South during the civil rights era.
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[Flashback] Homeland Security RightWing Extremism: Domestic Terrorism – Military Veterans Cited
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Well....we can't say they didn't warn us. The path is clear.

They just appointed a rabid Christian-hater who pens virulent anti-Christian vomit, worthy of a jihadist imam, to develop military policies on religious tolerance.

31 posted on 05/01/2013 1:15:30 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: manc

stunning how the military has been infested with PC in these last few years and how some still serving can’t see it because they would rather focus on their promotion

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Lord, how I wish I could argue with you...


32 posted on 05/01/2013 1:17:14 PM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: MrB
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33 posted on 05/01/2013 1:17:41 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: jagusafr

I wish I did not have to say it too pal.

It’s so sad to see what has become of the military but seeing this Govt handle Libya, FT Hood etc then there is no way I want my boys to join special forces


34 posted on 05/01/2013 1:36:41 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: MrB

It would seem to me that Christians are less likely to fire on their own countrymen.


35 posted on 05/01/2013 1:38:04 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

That’s why they have to get rid of them.


36 posted on 05/01/2013 1:38:34 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yep.


37 posted on 05/01/2013 1:39:10 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: NoLibZone

No, every Christian should rise up and demand this policy be changed and those responsible run out of town.


38 posted on 05/01/2013 1:46:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: Java4Jay
Years ago I learned an important business lesson. A company that lays off mostly or only Christians does so because they are about to or just did something that's very illegal.
39 posted on 05/01/2013 1:47:05 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Java4Jay

On a side note, I what the Military channel and has anyone who does noticed that they devote mornings to shows the on the whole are devoted debunking the bible...???

Nights are often devoted to repeats of Obama capturing OBL.


40 posted on 05/01/2013 1:51:10 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

I guess we have a new “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” Policy in the military! How tolllllerant.


41 posted on 05/01/2013 1:59:13 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Java4Jay

Gee, what about that First Amendment thingy?


42 posted on 05/01/2013 2:05:37 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

That goes hand in hand with my question for leftist politicians -

what is it that you have planned that you can’t do before the people are disarmed?


43 posted on 05/01/2013 2:07:34 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Iron Munro

And when Christians are all purged, our military will become the new SS. We’ll have godless, perverted homos, inner city gang warriors, and illegals happy to fill the ranks. And I have no doubt that our Traitor in Chief will direct that we recruit from those groups. At that point, the military would not have any problems firing on Americans! I can also see him sending them overseas to help assist Islamist uprisings in other countries, in the name of “democracy “ .


44 posted on 05/01/2013 4:27:58 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: Sola Veritas

“It is my contention that “lack of belief” is a religion in of itself. So, to force silence on Christian belief is to FORCE a “unbelief” belief on others....which is coercive.”

Its a violation of the 1st Amendment as it is a suppression of religion for whatever propose.


45 posted on 05/01/2013 4:33:15 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Java4Jay.


46 posted on 05/01/2013 8:23:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: NoLibZone
Every Christian should leave and not join the Military.

which will work just fine up until the Democrats produce a standing army of atheist/muslim thugs ready to use heavy weapons on men, women, and children.
47 posted on 05/01/2013 10:33:02 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Jewbacca
Actually, Christians and Jews should join the military and be prepared to resist when the time comes. No sense in giving up that tactical position.

Christians and Jews should SECRETLY join the military. That means no letting the enemy know what you believe. That way there might actually be a solid number of individuals who will say NO when Obama or one of his successors gives the order to shoot those crying toddlers into the ditch.
48 posted on 05/01/2013 10:35:42 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: thouworm
At the top of the list — the very first item — was “evangelical Christianity” in the United States. Also included were “ultra-Orthodox” Jews, Catholicism, fundamentalist Mormons, and “Islamophobia.”

Muslims extremism not mentioned because they have plenty in common with leftist vermin. Namely the desire to dominate over, torment, and massacre as many helpless human beings as possible.
49 posted on 05/01/2013 10:37:37 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Java4Jay

Amen and Amen! Let us approach this news with a joyous heart and spirit, for the time draws nigh for the true Glory of heaven and earth to come.


50 posted on 05/02/2013 4:37:16 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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