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Docs Show Napolitano Thanked Missouri Governor For Breaking State Law
http://www.redstate.com/ ^ | 05/01/2013 | Dana Loesch

Posted on 05/01/2013 11:58:28 AM PDT by Mama25

Missouri Governor Jay Nixon repeatedly denied knowing anything about Missouri illegally sharing its citizens private CCW information with the federal government, even after his own head of Missouri Highway Patrol contradicted him in a public hearing. Now we’ve learned that Nixon not only knew about the violation of Missouri law, but he was thanked in a letter by Janet Napolitano:

DHS- Letter to Nixon- REAL ID Compliance — ongoing MO CCW Scandal

(image of letter is available at site)

Missouri law — signed into effect by Gov. Nixon himself — prohibits full compliance with the Real ID Act. This includes sharing Missouri’s conceal carry list, which officials under Nixon did, with his full knowledge, according to this letter.

Missouri’s governor lied to his constituency when he said that no documents were being shared — Nixon even claimed that the lawsuit was dismissed, which it was not:

“First of all, the Department of Revenue has been very clear,” Nixon said. “There are no documents being sent to some federal government magic database somewhere to do something.”

Nixon then referred to a lawsuit filed by a private citizen in southeast Missouri who objected to a state license office scanning his CCW permit so it could be noted on his driver’s license. The citizen thought the office should just look at his document and make him a new license with the CCW notation.

“That’s why the Stoddard County court last week dismissed the lawsuit, dismissed it making that exact claim,” Nixon said on Wednesday.

The lawsuit in Stoddard County is not dismissed, as the governor said, but the judge in the case has ruled against the request of the citizen, Eric Griffin, for the judge to order the Department of Revenue not to scan and retain the CCW information.

Gov. Nixon is set to testify in a public hearing this Friday. Will he finally start telling the truth? Will Attorney General Chris Koster act, or will taxpayers be forced to hire a second attorney to do the job Democrat Koster is afraid to do: enforce Missouri’s laws?

Today I’ll speak with Russ Oliver, the Missouri prosecuting attorney who started it all, on my program on more developments.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bhodhs; bigsislies; jaynixon; magicdatabase; missouri; napolitano; sourcetitlenoturl

1 posted on 05/01/2013 11:58:28 AM PDT by Mama25
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To: Mama25

“There are no documents being sent to some federal government magic database somewhere to do something.”

LOLOLOLOL, I can’t stop laughing....of course not, what are we worried about???


2 posted on 05/01/2013 12:03:35 PM PDT by MikeDanneskjold (www.OutlandishLLC.com Isn't it time YOU had a little something offshore?)
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To: Mama25

3 posted on 05/01/2013 12:04:08 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Mama25
In lots of states this would go nowhere but Missouri isn’t like other states. This could be fun to watch.
4 posted on 05/01/2013 12:06:20 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Mama25
Will Attorney General Chris Koster act,

I called the Attorney General's office once and was advised that the Attorney General was paid by the state and so they are to represent State Officials.

5 posted on 05/01/2013 12:09:26 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Mama25

The corruption, lies, scandals, etc..etc. that come out of this administration from top to bottom are mind boggling.

I just turned 51y/o and have never in my lifetime seen a more corrupt govt. than what we have today.


6 posted on 05/01/2013 12:14:02 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Mama25; Second Amendment First; 1stMarylandRegiment; 47carollann; A Citizen Reporter; A Cyrenian; ..
Missouri ping

Low volume ping list

FReepmail me to be on, or off, this list.

Do politicians lie boldly and not worry about it?
Are they breathing?

7 posted on 05/01/2013 12:19:02 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Mama25
I read the whole thing, and as much as I'd like to see Nixon prosecuted for illegally sharing CCW info with the feral government, I don't see any evidence in Napolitano's letter.


8 posted on 05/01/2013 12:22:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I would imagine it is dead certain the a letter from DHS Secretary would be read by the Governor himself as it was addressed to him.

His assertion he did not know about the “your states efforts” after reading about them in this letter.

It is not Janet’s sworn duty to enforce Missouri laws so thwarting them would not be cited. It is Jay’s responsibility.


9 posted on 05/01/2013 12:30:27 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years)
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To: KC Burke
It's a form letter.

Hardly a smoking gun.

10 posted on 05/01/2013 12:32:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Mama25

A couple of updates to the original story:

*UPDATE: The Missouri Senate filed remonstrance (h/t Adam):

This is a Senate Remonstrance against the Governor for the release by the Department of Revenue and the Department of Public Safety of personal protected information which has been publicly admitted by the departments.

*UPDATE 2: A senate hearing is underway right now led by Sen. Kurt Schaefer, Chairman of the Appropriations Committee. Moments ago while under oath a SSA agent just admitted that any veteran drawing social security disability and who had a CCW would have been a target .


11 posted on 05/01/2013 12:33:13 PM PDT by Mama25 (Do not forget that every people deserves the regime it is willing to endure. (White Rose leaflet 1))
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To: Kevin in California

“I just turned 51y/o and have never in my lifetime seen a more corrupt govt. than what we have today.”

The Clintoons were just as bad. We just didn’t have Free Republic back then.


12 posted on 05/01/2013 12:35:27 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Mama25

Rules are made to be broken, right?


13 posted on 05/01/2013 12:36:01 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Nothing like a Govenor that does not know the law or have a lawyer on staff to reshearch what the are going to do before they do it!
Ignorance of the law is not a defence and we all know that!
Good Bye! Hopefully for Mr. Nixon!


14 posted on 05/01/2013 12:37:51 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Mama25

Tar-n-Feather


15 posted on 05/01/2013 12:45:33 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Really????

Missouri law — signed into effect by Gov. Nixon himself — prohibits full compliance with the Real ID Act. This includes sharing Missouri’s conceal carry list, which officials under Nixon did, with his full knowledge, according to this letter.

16 posted on 05/01/2013 12:50:24 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: 11th Commandment
I don't see Nixon's signature on that letter.

I could send him a letter thanking him for helping me rob a bank.

Would that make him guilty of robbing a bank?

17 posted on 05/01/2013 12:53:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“We just didn’t have Free Republic back then.”

We did for 3 years.


18 posted on 05/01/2013 12:56:28 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Mama25

Republicans have close to or more than 2/3rds majorities in both houses of the Missouri legislature. It sounds like time to impeach the governor for “high crimes and misdemeanors”, or the Missouri equivalent.

Before they do that, however, the legislature needs to start firing state employees that complied with the governor’s orders.

Their actions should be due to “anti-democratic, anti-constitutional acts against the people of Missouri.”


19 posted on 05/01/2013 12:56:53 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Mama25

Domestic enemies of the Republic.


20 posted on 05/01/2013 12:59:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: 11th Commandment
This includes sharing Missouri’s conceal carry list, which officials under Nixon did, with his full knowledge, according to this letter.

Where in the letter is the CCW list mentioned?

Where?

21 posted on 05/01/2013 12:59:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I’ve had this discussion many many times over the last 5 years.

If it’s true, why is everything 10x’s worse now?
Timing? New pupper masters? mooslim influence?

Holder and Jarret? I want someone to tell me why it has gotten so much worse.

Maybe it’s the masks coming off as they thought the ground work had been laid.


22 posted on 05/01/2013 1:10:46 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Mama25

prosecute and put him in jail... or the law means nothing and it will continue


23 posted on 05/01/2013 1:14:43 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Hardly a smoking gun.

The State of Missouri does not participate in REAL ID as I understand it.

Again as I understand it, it is breaking Missouri Law to release information of this nature.

24 posted on 05/01/2013 1:49:03 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: TYVets
Again as I understand it, it is breaking Missouri Law to release information of this nature.

The letter contains no evidence that it was.

I would love to see evidence that puts Jay behind bars, but this ain't it.

25 posted on 05/01/2013 1:57:58 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
If it’s true, why is everything 10x’s worse now?
It’s a process. The New Deal was a bunch of unconstitutional stuff which was a big deal when they got away with it. But the Great Society was stacked on top of the New Deal abuses, and it was huge when Reagan rolled back part of the Great Society - but the New Deal went untouched. It just keeps ratcheting onward, two steps “forward” and one step back, at best. Part of that is the conceit that we are and should be “conservative.” Well, guess what! There actually aren’t any conservatives in America. Those who are called “conservative” are actually advocates of liberty, and the freedom for the people to advance. The word for us, originally, was liberal. But back in the 1920s, the socialists in America had a branding problem. They wanted to promote tyranny, what might be called “governmentism” - and the word socialism wasn’t selling in America because American Society already controlled American Government. So the socialists simply rebranded their claptrap and called it “liberalism” - inverting the meaning of the term, and leaving us without a name which actually represented our philosophy.

Anyway, in the nineties we actually had the audacity to believe that the president had to obey the law. Bill Clinton proved that he didn’t have to obey the law. The next socialist who attained power openly advertises that he refuses to

take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed
as Constitution charges him to do. And not only is not impeached, he is reelected!

26 posted on 05/01/2013 2:08:42 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Thank you for the very information reply. I need to run out soon, will digest this and consider what you’ve shared.


27 posted on 05/01/2013 2:27:10 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Post #24 answered your question. Also, in Missouri, Conceal Carry is on your drivers license:


28 posted on 05/01/2013 2:35:46 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We already heard from Carney re: Hillary's signature on a State memo that Incompetano's signature doesn't mean she knew about the document. By extension, Nixon will argue that being addressed to him doesn't mean that he knew of it, either.

We have rogue governments everywhere, it seems. No paper trail is evidence of anything anymore to liberals.

-PJ

29 posted on 05/01/2013 2:42:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 11th Commandment

According to the updates posted on the article:

http://www.redstate.com/dloesch/2013/05/01/breaking-docs-show-napolitano-thanked-missouri-governor-for-breaking-state-law/

UPDATE 2: A senate hearing is underway right now led by Sen. Kurt Schaefer, Chairman of the Appropriations Committee. Moments ago while under oath a SSA agent just admitted that any veteran drawing social security disability and who had a CCW would have been a target .


30 posted on 05/01/2013 3:01:08 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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31 posted on 05/01/2013 3:06:18 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 11th Commandment
Also, in Missouri, Conceal Carry is on your drivers license:

Once again, you are wrong.

You can get a non-driver ID and put it on there. I know because I live in Missouri and that's what I did. They suggest it at the DMV.

That way when you give somebody your drivers license and they won't know.

The State of Missouri does not participate in REAL ID as I understand it. Again as I understand it, it is breaking Missouri Law to release information of this nature.

Again, as I have stated multiple times to you, CCW info is not mentioned in the letter, which is nothing more than a form letter sent to multiple governors.

And again, if I sent the governor a thank you letter for helping me rob a bank, would that be evidence that the governor had robbed a bank?

32 posted on 05/01/2013 3:37:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: jmaroneps37

A governor breaking the law he himself signed then lying about it. Now that is a scandal.


33 posted on 05/01/2013 4:41:43 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The Clintoons were just as bad. We just didn’t have Free Republic back then.

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Not exactly true. Lurking at FR is what got me through the Clinton years - especially the impeachment time period.


34 posted on 05/01/2013 11:07:42 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
The Clintoons were just as bad. We just didn’t have Free Republic back then.

Actually, Free Republic was instrumental in Clinton's impeachment.

35 posted on 05/01/2013 11:31:47 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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