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To: pinochet

The answer to the question is no. Christianity always thrives the most under persecution. The Roman Empire nor Communist China could prevent Christianity from thriving and expanding. Islam won’t be able to, either.


5 posted on 04/30/2013 11:45:46 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

from what I understand, Christianity in Africa and Asia is growing by leaps and bounds. From what I read in the mainstream media Christianity is on life support.


9 posted on 04/30/2013 11:49:16 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Kazan
Islam already is in every nation....Islam has no defined nation...it is about conquest by population in other nations. The US is not exempt and they are in every form of governance now using our laws to to protect themsleves and to continue their agenda.

This is not something the average American is concerned with even if they are aware. They have nothing to fight back with except their representatives, who refuse to acknowledge there is an enemy “IN the house”.

11 posted on 04/30/2013 11:52:01 AM PDT by caww
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To: Kazan
"Christianity always thrives the most under persecution. The Roman Empire nor Communist China could prevent Christianity from thriving and expanding. Islam won’t be able to, either."

I'm sorry. Islam already has.

In just one century after Muhammad's death (roughly 632-750) the Rashidun and Umayyad Caliphates physically took over 1/2 of Christendom, drove out, forced the Islamization of, or destroyed the Christian communities therein, and have kept the territory to this day.

Christianity was "a" or "the" major religion of what is now the Middle East and SW Asia --- Anatolia/Asia Minor (now called Turkey), along the Caucasus, the Armenians, the Georgians, the Eastern Assyrians, Jordan, Lebanon, the Persians (now called Iran) the Chaldeans (now called Iraq), along the Silk Road to the Indus. We hardly know these people even existed --- communities founded by the Apostles and their first and second and third-generation successors --- because the Muslims destroyed, not only their communities, but every architectural trace of them, churches, monasteries, libraries, documents.

Christianity was "a" or "the" major religion of the people of Northern Africa --- Egypt, Libya, the Barbary Coast (al- Maghreb) --- as well as Ethiopia along the Red Sea. They didn't "thrive" under persecution. They survived in scattered, garbled fragments under dhimmitude; at this point, even the remnants--- Copts, etc. --- are disappearing before our very eyes.

If it weren't for astute archaeological and paleographic detective work by the historians of dhimmitude like Bat Ye'or, we wouldn't even know that we lost half a Christian world, and never recovered it.

The exception to this was the Iberian Peninsula --- Al-Andalus, now called Spain and Portugal --- where the Catholic Spanish fought a 700-year war to drive out the Caliphate: the only major territory, to my knowledge, that the Muslims once ruled but were pushed out of.

Which brings me to my second point. The Christians that are left, have for the most part succumbed, not to force, but to secularization. They've got themselves contracepted, spayed, buggered, aborted, and in every way rendered perverse and sterile. This by choice, not by force.

You think they'll struggle for Christ and be glorious martyrs, whose blood is the seed of the Church? Will they seize a Christian future? They've aborted their Christian future.

At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum.

Can God work miracles? Definitely. Usually, after the crucifixion.

34 posted on 04/30/2013 2:04:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (My kin are given to such phrases as, 'Let's face it.' - Flannery O'Connor)
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To: Kazan

If anything there is out there I would say, I would rather face the oppression of Islam at this point, then deal with the crude, vulgar, and extremely blasphemous disregard for God that so much of the extreme secularism in the Western World entails


46 posted on 05/03/2013 6:50:14 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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