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Virginia Democrats renew call for Cuccinelli to resign
The Washington Times ^ | 29 April 2013 | Bob Lewis

Posted on 04/30/2013 6:11:29 AM PDT by COBOL2Java

RICHMOND — Virginia Democrats renewed their demands Monday that Attorney General Kenneth T. Cuccinelli resign after the Republican gubernatorial candidate belatedly disclosed about $13,000 worth of gifts on Friday that he claimed he forgot to note in four years’ worth of economic disclosure reports.

They were not as insistent, however, that their own nominee, Terry McAuliffe, match Mr. Cuccinelli’s complete income tax disclosure earlier this month with one of his own.

State Sen. A. Donald McEachin and Delegate David J. Toscano responded in a conference call to Mr. Cuccinelli’s revelation Friday afternoon that he failed to report five gifts from 2009 through last year. He spoke to a handful of mostly print journalists who had agreed not to broadcast any audio or video recordings of the conference and use them only to augment the accuracy of their own notes.

Three of them were from Jonnie Williams, the CEO of troubled nutritional supplement maker Star Scientific and a political contributor to Mr. Cuccinelli. They included a $3,000 vacation stay and $1,500 Thanksgiving retreat and dinner at Mr. Williams‘ Smith Mountain Lake vacation home.

Mr. Cuccinelli also made a nominal revision to his 2011 filing to show that $6,711 worth of nutritional supplements he received that year came from Star Scientific, not from Mr. Williams as he had previously reported.

The annual reports listing their business interests, assets, honoraria and gifts are required of elected officials each January under Virginia law. A deliberate violation is a misdemeanor, but an unintended error or omission is not an offense.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cuccinelli; mcauliffe; va2013
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1 posted on 04/30/2013 6:11:29 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: COBOL2Java

why do these jackasses continue to accept gifts? A bottle of pinot is okay but nothing more. pay your own freight. loser pols


2 posted on 04/30/2013 6:12:56 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

It’s more tangled when you are friends with the person.


3 posted on 04/30/2013 6:14:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

yeah? I don’t give my friends 13K “gifts”


4 posted on 04/30/2013 6:15:36 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Really - unless you’re a democRat, you’re not entitled as an elected politician to freesht!


5 posted on 04/30/2013 6:15:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: AppyPappy

Friends - even rich ones - do not typically buy such lavish gifts for one another.


6 posted on 04/30/2013 6:17:23 AM PDT by Arthurio
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To: yldstrk

If you let your friend stay at your beach house, that is $3000. If you invite him for Thanksgiving, that is $1500 (dinner and staying at the house).

It’s a little different from being gifted a Rolex.


7 posted on 04/30/2013 6:17:52 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Arthurio

Friends don’t have to account for the comparable cost of staying at each other’s houses.

I have a friend with a place at SML. When I stay there, big deal. If I was a politician, I would have to account for the cost of staying at a comparable location and report it.


8 posted on 04/30/2013 6:19:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

oh bull, I highly doubt they are talking about being invited to a house party for Thanksgiving. And as a stinking Captain in the JAG we had a “briefing” about not accepting gifts. So, the ass should know to avoid the appearance of impropriety, if he wants to go to the beach he should pay his freight, that is what I am saying.


9 posted on 04/30/2013 6:21:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: AppyPappy

You should pay your freight at SML whatever the dickens that is, your friend has expenses that are fixed on that vaca house.


10 posted on 04/30/2013 6:22:49 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
So you've never gone on a trip with a friend? You've never gone hunting and stayed at their camp?

Vitamins???? You are worried about someone accepting Vitamins?

11 posted on 04/30/2013 6:23:57 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999

hell yeah I have gone on trips with friends and we tallied up and split the expenses evenly.


12 posted on 04/30/2013 6:25:29 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

He was invited to Thanksgiving dinner IIRC. They have to report that. It’s not like he got a Rolex and a bag of diamonds.


13 posted on 04/30/2013 6:25:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: AppyPappy

just a second ago you said it was the same as being gifted a Rolex.

Look, if he is invited to someone’s house for Thanksgiving AND THAT PERSON DOESN’T BENEFIT BY GETTING A GOVERNMENT CONTRACT BLESSED BY HIM shorthly thereafter, no biggie.

sheesh, people, it’s not that hard to be honest


14 posted on 04/30/2013 6:27:48 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: COBOL2Java
Once again the cry goes out:

OUR CROOK IS NOT AS BAD AS THEIR COOK.

if the nation is to survive, we must insist upon HONOR in our leaders. At this time in our history, there is very little of that in local, county, state, or federal government. Very little.

15 posted on 04/30/2013 6:29:17 AM PDT by Tupelo (The Government lies, then the media lies to cover up the government lies.)
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To: yldstrk
>You should pay your freight at SML whatever the dickens that is<

Smith Mountain Lake is a big, man-made lake that extends across Franklin and Bedford counties in VA. It was formed when Appalachian Power Company built a dam for power generation. It's quite popular in these parts.


16 posted on 04/30/2013 6:47:48 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Tupelo
Apparently, the RATs have once again accomplished their goal of destroying "the enemy" - not in the realm of ideas, but in gutter politics. They know that all they have to do is get the Republican to disclose something their own guy won't do - correction - won't have to do.

Did everyone miss this line in the story?

"They were not as insistent, however, that their own nominee, Terry McAuliffe, match Mr. Cuccinelli’s complete income tax disclosure earlier this month with one of his own."
The only reason they demanded Cuccinelli's tax records was so they could go dumpster diving for dirt. Voila! They found something! And now they can sit back and let all the Conservatives chew Cuccinelli’s legs off, because WE demand HONOR. We demand PURITY. And the RATs sit back and laugh at us.

Terrific.

17 posted on 04/30/2013 6:50:15 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: COBOL2Java
They were not as insistent, however, that their own nominee, Terry McAuliffe, match Mr. Cuccinelli’s complete income tax disclosure earlier this month with one of his own.



RAT hypocrisy knows no bounds.
18 posted on 04/30/2013 6:56:13 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: COBOL2Java

Same old story. Republican thinks he’s going to escape scrutiny by the dems’ oppo research machine.

I like Cuccinelli, but he’s the latest in a long line of GOPers who don’t understand the fact that the dems are far, far more effective in digging up dirt on opponents.

And I agree with the other posters here who say politicians need to cease with the gift-taking.


19 posted on 04/30/2013 7:02:36 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: COBOL2Java

This doesn’t look very good and could possibly sink Cuccinelli. Is it too late for Bolling to replace him?


20 posted on 04/30/2013 7:07:24 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: COBOL2Java

VA Republicans rarely win much of anything other than U.S. House seats anyway. I never get enthusiastic about some potential chance to win in VA. The GOP always seems to leave us flat there. But, MD, they can’t even find a serious candidate in statewide races.


21 posted on 04/30/2013 7:08:20 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: ScottinVA

Sad thing is, gift-giving notwithstanding, we’ll never be able to persuade good people to get into politics. Who the heck would want the anal exam they’ll get from the likes of DemocRAT dumpster divers? Much less what the Chicago crowd would put their family through?

All we’re going to get now is a kakocracy.


22 posted on 04/30/2013 7:10:45 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Longbow1969
This doesn’t look very good and could possibly sink Cuccinelli. Is it too late for Bolling to replace him?

Bolling? Wouldn't surprise me if Bolling aided in the oppo research...

23 posted on 04/30/2013 7:11:53 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: COBOL2Java
Bolling? Wouldn't surprise me if Bolling aided in the oppo research...

I agree, Bolling is a snake. But he's still our snake, and if Cuccinelli is mortally wounded we need to do what is necessary to keep TerryMac from being Governor.

24 posted on 04/30/2013 7:13:59 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: yldstrk
Our people have to learn a simple fact, and that is that they will be under scrutiny 24/7 by the 'Rat dirt machine. So even an appearance of impropriety will get built up into a major scandal. Rule number one is, don't accept "gifts", don't accept "free money" for personal use. Pay your way and earn what you get.

It isn't fair and it is a double standard, of course, but it's the way it is in today's political world. The 'Rats, of course, get a pass. In fact, when a 'Rat breaks the law, it helps them. People think they're "cool", or "a playah".

25 posted on 04/30/2013 7:20:11 AM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera
It isn't fair and it is a double standard, of course, but it's the way it is in today's political world. The 'Rats, of course, get a pass. In fact, when a 'Rat breaks the law, it helps them. People think they're "cool", or "a playah".

A sad truth indeed. I'm sure the long knives are out for Ted Cruz as well, but in his case, the RATs can probably just sit back and let the McCains eat one of their own. :-/

26 posted on 04/30/2013 7:28:06 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Tupelo

Very few honorable people would even make it to the candidacy...


27 posted on 04/30/2013 7:35:20 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: yldstrk

“just a second ago you said it was the same as being gifted a Rolex”
Oh and here is what I said

It’s a little different from being gifted a Rolex.


28 posted on 04/30/2013 7:36:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: COBOL2Java

He should tell the Dem’s:

“Let’s see your financial disclosures!”


29 posted on 04/30/2013 7:37:02 AM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: stuartcr
Very few honorable people would even make it to the candidacy...

kakistocracy (plural kakistocracies)

1.Government under the control of a nation's worst or least-qualified citizens


It's what we're headed for, if we're not already there...
30 posted on 04/30/2013 7:42:43 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: COBOL2Java

It’s the history of politics and politicians


31 posted on 04/30/2013 7:44:16 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

So true, so true.


32 posted on 04/30/2013 8:23:58 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: COBOL2Java

Clinton machine 2016 bump for later...


33 posted on 04/30/2013 9:03:20 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: yldstrk

Virginia has pretty weak ethics rules. They rely simply on full disclosure. That way, the voters can decide whether they think you are being influenced or not.

There has been some push to change this, but neither party really cares to do so. And yes, even some of our “good” guys tend to be gifted a lot more than the ordinary folks.

I can’t imagine anybody would pay $6000 for supplements, so I guess this is a case where the company has excess stock and sends it out to people, and it just has a very high retail value, and that’s what you file.

Still, it would be nice if our politicians just said no.

And of course, in Virgina even a willful violation of this law is a misdemeanor, like running a red light. If it is inadvertent, there is no penalty at all for late disclosure.

The democrats have been working over time with the media trying to take down Ken. They’ve opened a second front with McDonnell, leaking information about an FBI probe that the liberal unethical Obama administration won’t “confirm or deny”, thus leaving it hanging. But again, if you don’t hang around with people giving you gifts, it is harder to launch unfounded accusations at you.


34 posted on 04/30/2013 9:48:24 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: COBOL2Java

Spot on. What’s the incentive for a successful conservative to leave his comfortable six figure job/life and be dragged through the dirt, not only by the opposition, but by hyperpure conservatives who’ve never run for nor won a seat in their lives.

Utter goofs. If this is all they’ve got on Cucinelli he’s still a great candidate. Sometimes I suspect many of the purists are plants. Their entire goal is to whip up the base against a good candidate.

Why don’t they protest McAuliffe’s entire career as a crony capitalist and start a campaign to force him to open his records? He get’s a free pass. That’s dumb.

It’s the regular conservative circular firing squad at work. Grow up.


35 posted on 04/30/2013 9:57:41 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: COBOL2Java

I strain myself to find any concern for this oversight. Senses when is it the government’s business to know of every private gift i receive.

You want to know it for politics well they know it now time to move to actual issues of concern for Virginia.


36 posted on 04/30/2013 10:48:34 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: AppyPappy

“If you let your friend stay at your beach house, that is $3000. If you invite him for Thanksgiving, that is $1500 (dinner and staying at the house).

Wow I’ve received some huge gifts in the last few years in that case...


37 posted on 04/30/2013 10:50:56 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: chimera

“Our people have to learn a simple fact, and that is that they will be under scrutiny 24/7 by the ‘Rat dirt machine. So even an appearance of impropriety will get built up into a major scandal. Rule number one is, don’t accept “gifts”, don’t accept “free money” for personal use. Pay your way and earn what you get.”

I think we need to aproche this ongoing double standard in a different way. Face up to it head on and call them hypocrites.


38 posted on 04/30/2013 10:53:39 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: yldstrk

So true...
When my hubs was in a position to get compted for a $1500/night hotel room in New Orleans for three nights, we had to say no thanks and pay for it ourselves because of concerns for future investigations... and we could ill-afford the expense.


39 posted on 04/30/2013 11:34:08 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: yldstrk

Hey, JAG...
Hubs was a surface Navy CAPT at the time...
We didn’t get the brief but knew enough not to go for the comp...


40 posted on 04/30/2013 11:36:03 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Monorprise
We can certainly call them on their double standard and I agree we should. But we should also be aware that our failings will be magnified beyond proportion so we should seek to minimize those. If we don’t hand our enemies a sword they will be less likely to chop us up.
41 posted on 04/30/2013 1:25:32 PM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera

“We can certainly call them on their double standard and I agree we should. But we should also be aware that our failings will be magnified beyond proportion so we should seek to minimize those. If we don’t hand our enemies a sword they will be less likely to chop us up.”

I agree, but do you really think there are prefect men out there let alone enough of them to fill our political needs?


42 posted on 04/30/2013 1:40:19 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
Not perfect, but smart enough to know that we shouldn't give our opponents any more ammunition to use against us. It doesn't have to be hard. What part of “don't take any money” is hard to understand? Same with “don't take any gifts”. Surely we can run candidates who have worked an honest living and not bagged expensive gifts from anyone. Now, running such people is not guarantee of victory, and, given today's political climate, it might even be a hindrance, because people will make fun of honest men, and if a scumbag ‘Rat is running the media will find some way to applaud their debauchery, but at least you won't be seeing stories like the one posted at the start of this thread.
43 posted on 04/30/2013 3:35:16 PM PDT by chimera
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To: yldstrk

Good for you. But if a houseguest of mine insisted on paying me for my hospitality I’d consider it an insult.

Hank


44 posted on 04/30/2013 6:41:45 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

nope it was my friends ultra nice second house in Scottsdale and a bunch of us girls went and we kept track of all expenses and split them. no free lunch, “insult” is silly


45 posted on 04/30/2013 7:02:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyDuzkPCmnA


46 posted on 04/30/2013 7:04:52 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

What tacky friends you have. When I invite people to come and stay with me, I pay, when they invite me to go stay with them, they pay. I guess you can’t help your world view since you have such classless friends.


47 posted on 04/30/2013 7:13:15 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: chimera
If we don’t hand our enemies a sword they will be less likely to chop us up.
It's more like the Dems hand conservatives the sword then watch as they chop up their own candidates.
48 posted on 04/30/2013 7:38:04 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: McGavin999

folk off loser


49 posted on 04/30/2013 8:51:10 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: McGavin999

Guess that’s wh I sleep at night, not padding my expense account not accepting “gifts” and other slushy activities


50 posted on 04/30/2013 8:52:50 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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