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Dr. David Menton holds a PhD in cell biology from Brown University and is a well-respected author and teacher. He is Professor Emeritus at the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Dr. Menton has many published works and is one of the most popular speakers for Answers in Genesis.
1 posted on 04/29/2013 8:13:56 AM PDT by kimtom
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Good article.

Good evidence.

Good logic.


2 posted on 04/29/2013 8:18:54 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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I don’t think that we (Christians) have any business trying to guess the age of the Earth. Scripture simply doesn’t say, and why would it? But the other side has many problems. Science and Christianity are compatable. Sadly, many use one as a way to “disprove” the other.

There’s some things we don’t know. And there is a God. Deal with it.


4 posted on 04/29/2013 8:28:58 AM PDT by youngidiot (God help us.)
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That evidence might well argue for a younger or more recent age of dinosaurs without making a case for a younger or more recent earth.
5 posted on 04/29/2013 8:29:59 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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I believe evolution thru natural selection is fact and changes species over time. But these species evolve as a subset of that original species. I see no evidence where one species begets another different. There are no crossover croca-horse fossils.


9 posted on 04/29/2013 8:44:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Just as a point of fact, red blood cells do not have a nucleus.

Just something to consider when/if a question of the scientific knowledge of the author(s) of this piece comes up.

That soft tissue has been found in fossilized bone is not in dispute, for the record. (Actually, to be precise, from what I’ve read, it’s not “tissue” rather some proteins typically found in bone marrow, but not the marrow itself.)

I just HAD to say something about that “red blood cells with nuclei” comment though.


10 posted on 04/29/2013 8:45:25 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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Whoops I commented too quickly. “and these contained what appeared to be red blood cells with nuclei, typical of reptiles and birds (but not mammals)”.


11 posted on 04/29/2013 8:48:13 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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“Appear to be” or variations used 5 times.

This appears to be nothing too substantial.


14 posted on 04/29/2013 8:56:57 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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Dr Schweitzer’s research (as distinct from the Young Earth Creationists interpretation of it) is at Scientific American:
Meanwhile, Schweitzer’s research has been hijacked by “young earth” creationists, who insist that dinosaur soft tissue couldn’t possibly survive millions of years. They claim her discoveries support their belief, based on their interpretation of Genesis, that the earth is only a few thousand years old. Of course, it’s not unusual for a paleontologist to differ with creationists. But when creationists misrepresent Schweitzer’s data, she takes it personally: she describes herself as “a complete and total Christian.” On a shelf in her office is a plaque bearing an Old Testament verse: “For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”

16 posted on 04/29/2013 9:05:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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Wow! What an article.

Now tell us how the chemical elements in the young Earth got there, and where they came from.


21 posted on 04/29/2013 9:27:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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The earth does not have to be 4+ billion years old, nor dinosaurs 60+ million, to bust the YEC position.

Because if one holds not that "the Earth is younger than science says" but rather "the Old Testament chronology of births and deaths is an accurate timeline of the Earth's age" then all it takes is a clear indication of 20,000 years or thereabouts.

22 posted on 04/29/2013 9:28:01 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ('Institutions will try to preserve the problems to which they are a solution.' - Clay Shirky)
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Bm


109 posted on 04/29/2013 2:33:18 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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from the article: "But if creationists are right, dinosaurs died off only 3,000–4,000 years ago.
So would we expect the preservation of vessels, cells, and complex molecules of the type that Schweitzer reports for biological tissues historically known to be 3,000–4,000 years old? "

If creationists are right, and dinosaurs died off only 3,000 to 4,000 years ago (that's 1,000 to 2,000 BC: historical times!), then in drier, colder regions we would expect to see large deposits of unfosilized dinosaur carcases, a few with recoverable DNA and other soft tissues -- similar to those mammoth remains we do find.

But instead, very rare finds of minute quantities of dinosaur soft tissue (no DNA) tell us that however it happened, it was a most unusual process, and therefore could have happened long before the current era.

114 posted on 04/30/2013 1:25:03 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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115 posted on 04/30/2013 1:26:28 AM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply)
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Creo equivalent of greenhouse gas


121 posted on 04/30/2013 4:19:15 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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Men were painting on cave walls in France 30,000 years ago.


138 posted on 04/30/2013 7:16:29 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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