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#3 Soft Tissue in Fossils10 Best Evidences From Science That Confirm a Young Earth
www.answersingenesis.org ^ | September 11, 2012 | David Menton

Posted on 04/29/2013 8:13:56 AM PDT by kimtom

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To: OneWingedShark

Yes, I know it’s a big deal. That was the end event I was referring to. Also, “taken from the dust of the Earth and having life breathed into him by God Himself” is not incompatible with evolution, IMHO. It’s just that it’s not accomplished in 1 second, like the YE folks seems to think is a prerequisite for some reason.


61 posted on 04/29/2013 11:02:38 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: central_va

“..evolve as a subset of that original species...”

I would agree changes within species, but not change into another....i.e. frog, to horse.
(requires adding information to complexity)


62 posted on 04/29/2013 11:05:14 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: OneVike
I am but defending God’s word against those who claim God does not tell the truth.

If it were God's literal word, that would be one thing. But it's a compilation of mens' writings about God, translated and re-translated by men.

And I know for a fact that not all men tell the truth.

I also don't choose to limit God, as some do.

63 posted on 04/29/2013 11:06:35 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: kimtom

“A loaded question and a trap!!”

Not intended as either! I simply asked your opinion, nothing more. and you gave it. Nothing more.


64 posted on 04/29/2013 11:07:33 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: HamiltonJay

You ask;
Okay, clearly you believe in young earth, so I ask you this simple quesiton... How old do you believe the Earth is, and what evidence do you cite to make that claim?

I hold to the belief that the earth is approximately 10,000 years old. My evidence/ Come on. I would have to write a thesis for all the evidence. However, I will attempt to truncate a short list of some problems I have with an universe that is supposed to be billions of years old.

Galaxies wind themselves up too fast,
Too few supernova remnants,
Comets disintegrate too quickly,
There is not enough mud on the sea floor,
There is not enough sodium in the sea, the earth's magnetic field is decaying too fast,
Many strata are too tightly bent,
Biological material decays much too fast,
The fossil radioactivity shortens geologic "ages" to a few years,
There is too much helium in minerals,
there is too much carbon 14 in deep geologic strata,
There is not nearly enough Stone Age skeletons (we have gazillions of animal fossils and sea fossils some on Mountains too high for normal expalanation, which actually supports a major world wide flood),
The agriculture technology is way to recent,
Written history is too short and does not support the length of time human have been a live according to an old earth theory.

You ask;
Are you suggesting that Geneisis in its original Hebrew gives the creation date?

Not a date, but obviously it points to a young earth age.

You ask;
Secondly are you suggesting, and with what evidence are you mounting for this, that animals and beasts found to live on the earth and believed by the hethens not to co-exist in time with Humanity did indeed do so?

Actually we have many stories from ancients that dinosaurs existed with humans. We even have evidence of drawings in caves of extinct animals. Why would ancient Indians in Peruvian caves draw them if they did not exist?

You ask;
Third, The great rusting of the oceans of the earth, that heathens believe happened for millions of years, and is evidenced by the massive iron deposits currently being mined, did not happen, how do you suggest they occurred?

There has always been many problems with the way we have been measuring the age of things, and now we even have more evidence. This is from, News Science

Two of the solar system's best natural timekeepers have been caught misbehaving, suggesting that the accepted ages for the oldest known rock samples are off by a million years or more.

According to two new studies, a radioactive version of the element samarium decays much more quickly than previously thought, and different versions of uranium don't always appear in the same relative quantities in earthly rocks.

Both elements are used by geologists to date rocks and chart the history of events on our planet and in the solar system.

"If you have a critical event in Earth's history, something like an extinction event or a climate change shift or a meteorite impact, you need to know the absolute age with the most confidence," says Joe Hiess of the British Geological Survey, who led one of the studies. "In Earth sciences there's a need to be able to define what happened first and what happened second."

You ask;
None of these suggested things which counter the “young earth” hypothesis disprove God, and no theologian worth their salt has ever suggested that science is at odds with God.

However, man here at FR do claim that very thing, and that is why I mentioned it in my statement to you.

You ask;
The literal reading of the prehistory of the Bible is an ignorant philosophy that flies in the face of thousands of years of Theology.

Says you. You have neither a learned, nor a simple cursory understanding of Hebrew or Greek, let alone of Judeo/Christian Theology to make such an ignorant statement.

65 posted on 04/29/2013 11:10:05 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: count-your-change

“..Not intended as either! I..”

Sorry, I expected it, Topics of this nature brings out fierce emotions in some.


66 posted on 04/29/2013 11:10:29 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: OneVike; John Valentine
Take this book. It does an excellent job of laying out the scientific case against mutations resulting in the origin of species.

Sounds like a good book! Would you send it to me, and enclose your costs, which I will mail back?

Here's another excellent similar book on this topic, published some time ago but now freely downloadable, to which I refer you in a minutes-ago post on FR:

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3013724/posts

(FWIW, my academic credentials in engineering and physical chemistry/spectroscopy are B.S., M.S., Ph.D.)

67 posted on 04/29/2013 11:15:58 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Let the redeemed of The LORD say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy. (Ps. 107:2))
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To: kimtom

Though everything has a mechanism.

Proceed please.


68 posted on 04/29/2013 11:16:38 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: brent13a
You know what you think you know. You claim the compilation of the canon was a seedy affair.

You must be getting your information form the Jehovah Witnesses or the Mormons.

If you want to put your knowledge of God's word against mine, then please tell me what this says?
מֹשֶׁה
69 posted on 04/29/2013 11:20:37 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: brent13a

YOh yea,

Please try to not use Google.

God will know you did if you do, even if I cannot prove it.


70 posted on 04/29/2013 11:22:04 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: kimtom

Try the religion forum for some real eye gouging and deleted comments.


71 posted on 04/29/2013 11:22:29 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: FourtySeven
"Just as a point of fact, red blood cells do not have a nucleus.

"Just something to consider when/if a question of the scientific knowledge of the author(s) of this piece comes up.

Your retraction is noted, 47, though your reaction still does support the complaint that evolutionists are slow to consider criticisms.

72 posted on 04/29/2013 11:23:02 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: OneVike

IN TER JECTION! /school house rock...

Anyway, use “startpage.com” instead of google to keep them from logging your searches and IP.


73 posted on 04/29/2013 11:24:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: onedoug

“...Though everything has a mechanism.

Proceed please.
..”

God

Not to belittle your question.
Are you speaking the current state of things since creation?


74 posted on 04/29/2013 11:25:26 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: imardmd1

Freepmail me with your address and i will get it out to you within the week.


75 posted on 04/29/2013 11:25:55 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: SengirV
It’s just that it’s not accomplished in 1 second, like the YE folks seems to think is a prerequisite for some reason.

The Christological reasons, with soteriological doctrine, is that "By man came sin and thereby death," not "By death came man and Sin." Capisce?

Not to believe in this is for one to be dead in sin, and slated for eternal damnation for calling The God's Written Words a fib.

76 posted on 04/29/2013 11:27:26 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Let the redeemed of The LORD say so, whom He hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy. (Ps. 107:2))
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To: brent13a
“..What happens now, after the supersession of christianity is that christianity uses eisegesis on scripture christianity FORCES IN meanings to the scripture..”

Excuse me;

to which translation to prescribe to???

77 posted on 04/29/2013 11:30:09 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: DManA
So he cannot create a universe that LOOKS like it's 16 billion years old but in reality is only 6000 years old.

Do you believe God created Adam and Eve fully formed?

If He created an older human, why would He not also create an older earth?

78 posted on 04/29/2013 11:30:30 AM PDT by what's up
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To: MrB

Thanks. I’ll remember that.


79 posted on 04/29/2013 11:30:54 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: brent13a

“...I can assure you I know what I know because I know how to do independent theological research.
Faith does not have to be void of history, historic context, nor reason. Do you think Jesus made up stuff on the spot? No. He knew ...”

Where do you go for your research??


80 posted on 04/29/2013 11:32:39 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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