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Frank Luntz and Focus Groups are Destroying the GOP
American Thinker ^ | 4/29/2013 | C. Edmund Wright

Posted on 04/29/2013 4:12:01 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

Frank Luntz may smugly believe that Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and other right wing talk radio hosts are "responsible for the stark polarization within the nation's political discourse" and therefore "problematic" for the Republican Party.

I submit the problem is that Luntz, and a misguided over-reliance on focus groups, has neutered and thus destroyed any semblance of courage in the GOP's message. Luntz is conflating, as many wonks and number crunchers do, cause and effect with regard to the bigger realities and polarization. The country is polarized because, well, we are polarized. Rush and "the great one" didn't make it so simply by speaking the truth. And pretending to believe the same absurdities the lo-info crowd believes won't make us any less polarized either. Logic dictates that as long as we run low information campaigns, we'll suffer at the hands of the low information voter.

Meanwhile, it is becoming obvious that Luntz has become a prisoner of his own results over the years, and as such, has become obsessed with what misinformation voters already believe. He seems to have lost interest in the value of persuading voters to believe the truth. To Luntz, and to Karl Rove, and in fact most to Republican consultants, a poll or a focus group is not the starting point for voter education, it is the end point for candidate capitulation. This explains the constant surrender in the arena of ideas by candidates and spokes persons who are ostensibly on "our side."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: focusgroups; frankluntz; tokyorove
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Rush & Mark Levin forever; Luntz & Rove, NEVER.
1 posted on 04/29/2013 4:12:01 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: Servant of the Cross

I haven’t forgotten 08 and some of the Luntz focus groups included a couple of the same pro Romney members all over the country.


2 posted on 04/29/2013 4:14:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Luntz is out on the credibility list. Someone get him a seat next to dick Morris. Don’t give frank any shoes.


3 posted on 04/29/2013 4:16:05 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Never trust a wealthy man who can’t bother to buy a decent wig. And he’s nasty to his polling volunteers.


4 posted on 04/29/2013 4:16:57 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
ping. A summary of a chapter from WTF, eh?
5 posted on 04/29/2013 4:17:48 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Luntz is just telling the GOP want they want to hear.


6 posted on 04/29/2013 4:19:00 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: All

want=what


7 posted on 04/29/2013 4:20:04 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: miss marmelstein

Hey ... I resemble that remark!

8 posted on 04/29/2013 4:20:56 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I have never liked nor trusted luntz... he is a progressive dim that is hired by rove to destroy our chances in elections. luntz was wrong in every focus group during the last debates. The people distrusted obama... many that voted for obama said that they would vote for romney... but his focus groups lied on cue just like luntz was paid to manipulate them to do.

LLS


9 posted on 04/29/2013 4:21:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
ping. A summary of a chapter from WTF, eh?

Some of the highlights, for sure...

10 posted on 04/29/2013 4:22:02 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Juan, Linda and Marco Rubio are destroying the GOP.


11 posted on 04/29/2013 4:23:33 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Servant of the Cross

Rush & Mark Levin forever...yes!

Now if only they’d bring back Steve Malzberg!


12 posted on 04/29/2013 4:26:33 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Servant of the Cross

Luntz was born and raised in West Hartford, CT. Need I say more?


13 posted on 04/29/2013 4:33:36 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: Servant of the Cross

This is the ROmneyCARE/gay marriage/DeathPANEL
wing of the GOP.


14 posted on 04/29/2013 4:33:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Luntz and his focus groups are not worth watching. Luntz is as phoney as his hair piece.


15 posted on 04/29/2013 4:35:26 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Can we get over what is killing the GOP? NEWS FLASH: The Whigs are already dead, they just don’t know it. Let Rove and his merry band of butt kissers wander around like the blithering idiots they are. NOBODY CARES.

It is time for the TEA Party to step up and become the true opposition force to what passes for a government in Versailles on the Potomac.


16 posted on 04/29/2013 4:46:17 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Servant of the Cross
The way I understood Luntz’ remark was that Limbaugh and Levin et al. are destroying GOPe. Because conservatives have other outlets, GOPe can not use polls and study groups to push their meme. Nothing wrong with that assessment. Although I may be wrong since everybody else including C Edmund Wright thinks otherwise.

But I had not paid attention to Luntz and his focus groups.

17 posted on 04/29/2013 4:46:26 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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But I had not paid attention to Luntz and his focus groups.

Yep, and neither has most of FR. However ...... a huge segment of the general GOP voting public does.

Exhibit A: Mitt Romney winning the 2012 GOP POTUS nomination

18 posted on 04/29/2013 4:51:17 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Methinks you did not understand Luntz....and unfortunately, a lot of folks do pay attention to him and his groups.


19 posted on 04/29/2013 4:51:40 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Luntz is just another Kapo republican.


20 posted on 04/29/2013 5:03:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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