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Round Two for Gun Control May Take a ‘Next Newtown’ (say dems)
National Journal ^ | 4/26/13 | Goldmacher

Posted on 04/26/2013 1:02:05 PM PDT by pabianice

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., was glum after background checks went down April 17. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

A week after gun legislation suffered a stinging defeat in the Senate, an uncomfortable realization has settled over the Capitol that it will likely take another mass shooting or similar tragedy to reignite momentum for gun control.

President Obama called last week’s vote “round one.” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., pledged that it was “just the beginning.” But gun-control advocates, both inside and outside of Congress, have identified no immediate path forward to alter a political landscape that left them five votes short in the Senate of passing a bill requiring expanded background checks for gun purchases.

Focus in the Capitol has already shifted to immigration, renewed fiscal skirmishes, and the Boston bombings (though some questions remain over how the suspects obtained firearms). Even Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., the chief Republican coauthor of the background-check plan, has said it is time to move on.

Proponents of new gun restrictions still hope to use the 2014 elections to upend the current dynamics, in which voting against the gun lobby is deeply feared, especially in GOP-leaning states. They plan to rely upon the impassioned pleas of the families of the Newtown shooting victims, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s money, and former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ national stature. Before the next election, though, the truth is that another tragedy may be the only way to shake loose the legislation.

“Unfortunately, tragically, regrettably, there’ll be other incidents of gun violence that will remind us of how much is at stake,” said Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a Connecticut Democrat who has pushed hard for new gun laws after the December shooting that left 20 elementary school students dead.

The calls for stricter gun laws were loudest in the immediate aftermath of Newtown. But as the weeks and months passed, the powerful National Rifle Association, which opposed virtually any new firearm limits, including background checks, regained its footing.

On Wednesday, MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough told Toomey that he was still shocked that the Senate couldn’t pass expanded background checks with 60 votes when it was an issue supported by “95 percent” of the public, as Scarborough put it.

“I would suggest that we heard from the 5 percent who opposed—several times from each one of them,” Toomey replied. “It was a much more vocal and much more passionate expression from that camp.”

To advance the bill in the future, added Toomey, “I think the most important thing, frankly, is members of Congress need to hear from people—and the people who support these background checks need to be as vocal as those who don’t.”

It is a shortcoming that gun-control advocates acknowledge. “We talk about that as the passion gap, and we have to close that,” said Ladd Everitt, spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. He said his group had spent the last week “thanking and spanking” senators for their votes.

“If we really want to succeed, what we really need to do is demonstrate that our movement can reward allies and punish people who vote against us,” Everitt said.

Accusations that the White House did not move fast enough have been a recurrent critique of the administration’s handling of the gun issue after the Newtown massacre.

Expanding background checks reaps as much as 90 percent support in polling. But a new Pew Research Center/Washington Post poll shows far more division on the recent gun bill: 47 percent of Americans were “disappointed” or “angry” at the legislation’s defeat, but 39 percent were “very happy” or “relieved.”

Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., the other chief architect of the bipartisan compromise on background checks, suggested last Friday that the legislation would have proven “much more acceptable” if it had been on the floor in January. That’s when emotions still ran high after Newtown and the gun lobby was more divided.

“At that time we could have done something. So you seize the moment,” Manchin said, though he and Toomey didn’t reach a deal on background checks until April. Manchin has said he will continue to pressure his colleagues, one by one, though such an approach seems unlikely to break the deadlock.

Now, at least, Democrats and their allies have a package of gun-control measures—led by the Manchin-Toomey proposal—ready to be enacted practically immediately. Reid can bring the failed background-checks effort back to the floor at almost any time.

“The next Newtown is inevitable if we don’t act.... This is just our reality,” Everitt said. “Those things can help inform debate and galvanize people to act.”


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Democrats. What a charming bunch.
1 posted on 04/26/2013 1:02:05 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

And they fully intend to arrange it.


2 posted on 04/26/2013 1:03:38 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: pabianice
“The next Newtown is inevitable if we don’t act.... This is just our reality,” Everitt said.

Even though they admit that that legislation in question would have done nothing to stop Newtown. They are shameless.

3 posted on 04/26/2013 1:03:58 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: pabianice

I guess the commie ‘RATS will have to keep on wishing and keep their fingers crossed. Dancing in the blood of innocent children can become habit forming for the Democrat piggies.


4 posted on 04/26/2013 1:03:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: pabianice

Round 2 is already being ginned up . . .


5 posted on 04/26/2013 1:04:40 PM PDT by tomkat (a nation of spoiled children being 'led' by the very ones who coddled their petulance)
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To: pabianice
Hoping, Wishing, for the worst.

sick.

6 posted on 04/26/2013 1:04:56 PM PDT by wbill
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To: pabianice

Was 90%, now 95%. Their lies just keep growing!


7 posted on 04/26/2013 1:05:31 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: pabianice
Dump Congress - 2014!
8 posted on 04/26/2013 1:08:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Redleg Duke

It was 94% earlier today, 95% now, wow. Is this some doing by global warming???

Never let a crises go to waste is the message here, they are already planning for it.


9 posted on 04/26/2013 1:08:58 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: pabianice

...and the bastards eagerly await one. Even Dracula couldn’t love blood as much as a modern American leftist. Their machine runs on it.


10 posted on 04/26/2013 1:10:08 PM PDT by VR-21 (I'm weary of being lorded over by criminals and gilded degenerates.)
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To: pabianice

Fast and Furious II: It Isn’t Just for Mexico Anymore!


11 posted on 04/26/2013 1:11:17 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pabianice
“The next Newtown is inevitable if we don’t act.... This is just our reality,” Everitt said.

The next Newton is inevitable if you do act. What is being proposed does nothing to stop the next one and may in fact encourage it. (I've seen, but not seen sourced, something like mass school shootings have gone up by 500% since "gun free zones" were instituted.)

12 posted on 04/26/2013 1:11:24 PM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: pabianice
Expanding background checks reaps as much as 90 percent support in polling. But a new Pew Research Center/Washington Post poll shows far more division on the recent gun bill: 47 percent of Americans were “disappointed” or “angry” at the legislation’s defeat, but 39 percent were “very happy” or “relieved.”
If 90% were really supportive of background checks, it's impossible that 39% could be "very happy" or "relieved" after they were defeated. Somebody's lying. (Guess who?)
13 posted on 04/26/2013 1:12:13 PM PDT by Bob
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To: TBP

I agree with you. I’m not so sure Newtown wasn’t “arranged”, as was the theatre bombing and a few others. All it takes is a non descript government operative whispering in the ear of a disturbed young man.
Meantime the Republicans are only concerned with exempting themselves from Obamacare.
God help us.


14 posted on 04/26/2013 1:12:47 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: pabianice

They want another Newtown?? What for, when they already have Chicago?


15 posted on 04/26/2013 1:13:00 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods, Glenn Doherty and Sean Smith? Forgot already?)
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To: pabianice

We need to go on the offensive and get freedom of suppressors for us old folk with bad hearing already and get the shotgun 18” barrel min comprehensively aligned with the rifle 16” barrel, for starters.


16 posted on 04/26/2013 1:13:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: pabianice

Collectivism loves death. It advances the cause.


17 posted on 04/26/2013 1:13:26 PM PDT by lurk
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To: VR-21

Newtown would not approve a 1.5 or 1.7 budget proposal to raise security to defend their children in Public Schools, but would rather take the guns from Citizens that protect 60% of American homes that are not taxpayer funded from Daily crime across America.
We are very lucky their stigma did not influence law makers as well, or the 2nd Adm. would be toast. Talk about Hippocrates! Newtown knows the same forces at will that caused this insane act will prob never be repeated!


18 posted on 04/26/2013 1:19:04 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Paladin2

I’m with you brother.

LLS


19 posted on 04/26/2013 1:19:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Redleg Duke

20 posted on 04/26/2013 1:20:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mouton

Yeah, and that 95% showed up at that anti NRA rally yesterday. Do these azzhos really think people believe them?

Just wait, democrats will make sure more poor people die to get their point across. Question is, who will the dems plant death upon next to make their case?

Hey dems, you might get more pity if you attack the humane society.


21 posted on 04/26/2013 1:26:16 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: TBP
...And they fully intend to arrange it


No doubt about that.
22 posted on 04/26/2013 1:28:09 PM PDT by Bellagio
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To: pabianice

These worthless, statist Democrats need to STFU. Seriously.


23 posted on 04/26/2013 1:29:32 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: pabianice

Democrats and gun control is like a Boa Constrictor,
every time you exhale it gets another grip until
you can’t breath any more, then it unhinges it’s
jaw and starts working you down.


24 posted on 04/26/2013 1:40:35 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: pabianice

“Unfortunately, tragically, regrettably, there’ll be other incidents of gun violence that we will remind you of how much is at stake,” said Sen. Richard Blumenthal, democrat.


25 posted on 04/26/2013 1:42:31 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: pabianice

We know that the Democrats are hoping for another Newtown to exploit so that they can wade through the blood trolling for gun control support from the sheeple.

‘As Tasteless As It Gets’: Democratic Sen. Finds Opportunity in Newtown Massacre
Apr. 12, 2013 5:35pm Becket Adams

Connecticut Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal on Thursday cited the Newtown shooting massacre in a fundraising email to supporters.

From an editorial in the New Haven Register:

“In the wake of the horror of the December 14, 2012, massacre of 20 beautiful children and 6 dedicated educators,” Blumenthal is asking supporters to send money to his 2016 re-election campaign!

Democratic lawmaker: To get gun control, Obama must ‘exploit’ shooting

The Washington Times

Friday, December 14, 2012

A veteran Democratic lawmaker believes the nation will go along with stronger gun control laws if President Obama “exploits” the Newtown, Conn., tragedy and nudges Congress to action.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, who represents portions of New York City, said he was encouraged by Mr. Obama’s statement on Friday afternoon that the mass shooting, which claimed the lives of 20 young children, requires “meaningful action” by Congress, but hopes those words turn into concrete legislation.

“These incidents, these horrible, horrible incidents ... are happening more and more frequently. And they will continue to happen more and more frequently until someone with the bully pulpit, and that means the president, takes leadership and pushes Congress,” Mr. Nadler said during an appearance on MSNBC’s “The Ed Show” with Ed Schultz.

Mr. Nadler was asked whether the Newtown tragedy could be the turning point in many Democrats’ longstanding struggle to enact stronger gun laws.

“I think we will be there if the president exploits it, and otherwise we’ll go on to the next” incident, Mr. Nadler said.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/14/dem-lawmaker-get-gun-control-obama-must-exploit-sh/#ixzz2RbWRJTuf
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter


26 posted on 04/26/2013 1:43:43 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: pabianice

Another Newtown is nothing compared to what the infanticidal Obama would be planning if we gave up our guns.

What’s 20 murdered children compared to 20 million?


27 posted on 04/26/2013 1:44:47 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“They want another Newtown?? What for, when they already have Chicago?”

Shssss. Be quiet.

That is the hometown of the Messiah.

Thou shalt not speak of that.


28 posted on 04/26/2013 1:46:00 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: pabianice; All
Perhaps Diane will "pick the time and the place" again....


29 posted on 04/26/2013 1:47:07 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: pabianice

Democrats play to win, republicans don’t even dress for the game. The jihadist attacks in Boston at this point in time gave the right an ample supply of ammunition to destroy amnesty and gun control. They have done nothing. Nothing. Calling them incompetent just does not cover it. They are eunuchs with tiny brains.


30 posted on 04/26/2013 1:47:50 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Mouton

Then GOA, NRA and liberty lovers everywhere better do the same thing.


31 posted on 04/26/2013 1:49:27 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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... a ‘Next Newtown’

We still haven't learned everything that happend in the Old Newtown:

- What was on Lanza's computer?

- Lanza was addicted to violent video games which have multiplayer abilities; did he connect with unsavory characters online?

- Lanza had an altercation at the school the day before the shooting. What happend? Why was he allowed back in the building?
32 posted on 04/26/2013 1:50:11 PM PDT by indthkr
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Get ready. The next AR-15 shooting will be horrendous. Say in a maternity ward or a baby nursery. Then Obama will parade the parents around to elicit emotion.

Some things about Sandy Hook were just not right. No one will convince me otherwise.


33 posted on 04/26/2013 1:50:14 PM PDT by vlad335
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To: Travis McGee

90% of the time (or more) libs are lying and making up lame statistics.


34 posted on 04/26/2013 1:51:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: All

Maybe Putin and Li told Hussein that they won’t send their “peacekeepers” to protect him until he disarms US Americans. When the dollar falls 350% from it’s pre-Nov2008 value and our dictator declares Martial Law, the big cities will become prisons with the unarmed middle class sitting on “economic death row”. No good can come from Wahusseington. Unseal his Pandora’s box and let American’s see why thousands of his documents must be hidden!


35 posted on 04/26/2013 1:52:33 PM PDT by RHS Jr (Pity the banksters when Jesus comes)
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To: kevkrom
The next Newton is inevitable if you do act.

+1

36 posted on 04/26/2013 1:53:23 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: pabianice

Toomey claims only 5% are vocal? What BS. His office never took my name when I called so how would they know. The more I hear from this guy the more I think he is a POS.


37 posted on 04/26/2013 1:56:27 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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"The next Newton is inevitable if you do act. What is being proposed does nothing to stop the next one and may in fact encourage it. (I've seen, but not seen sourced, something like mass school shootings have gone up by 500% since "gun free zones" were instituted.)"

Disastrous Gun Law Sparked School Shootings

38 posted on 04/26/2013 1:57:15 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: pabianice
Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., the other chief architect of the bipartisan compromise on background checks, suggested last Friday that the legislation would have proven “much more acceptable” if it had been on the floor in January. That’s when emotions still ran high after Newtown and the gun lobby was more divided.

Traitor Joe is deliberately dancing in the blood of dead children. He is a disgusting puke.

39 posted on 04/26/2013 1:58:13 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

If the pubs weren’t firmly in bed with these traitors,
they’d use the “inoculation” technique that the rats always use -

get out in front of it, get on record foretelling their behavior, accuse them of desiring it to advance their agenda, and then when they do try it, point out that you predicted this behavior and that no one should fall for it.


40 posted on 04/26/2013 2:00:58 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Red in Blue PA
About 23 percent donated money against gun control and want to restore the Constitution.

About 5 percent donated money for gun control and despise limits on government power.


41 posted on 04/26/2013 2:09:27 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: TBP

No question that this Regime will do just that.

I wouldn’t be surprised to discover that they did have a hand in Aurora and possibly Newtown.


42 posted on 04/26/2013 2:18:16 PM PDT by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: vlad335

Agree with you on Sandy Hook, it stinks like the typical false flag. The Boston Bomb hoax is almost a complete repeat....the sheep will never wake up but I expect another false flag to get the guns soon. The elite are becoming desperate and thus no one is safe!


43 posted on 04/26/2013 2:26:59 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: pabianice

Per Mapquest, Watertown, MA, via I-90 W, 2 hrs 34 mins / 145.06 miles from Newtown, CT.


44 posted on 04/26/2013 2:40:06 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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A week after gun legislation suffered a stinging defeat in the Senate, an uncomfortable realization has settled over the Capitol that it will likely take another mass shooting or similar tragedy to reignite momentum for gun control.

President Obama called last week’s vote “round one.” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., pledged that it was “just the beginning.”

So apparently the demoRAT bastards are putting out the call for some deranged liberal lunatic to step forward & commit the murder & mayhem that demoRATs are so desparate to capitalize on?

What despicable evil reprobates the demoRATs are!!!

45 posted on 04/26/2013 2:54:59 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: pabianice

What is to stop them from pulling a Brady Act 2?

It was Thanksgiving weekend, most of congress had gone home. 4 senators called a quorum and voted in the bill. Mark Hatfield and Bob Dole were the two ‘R’s. And what do the republicans do about that outrage???? They NOMINATE DOLE FOR PRESIDENT!!

That’s when I quit the GOP.

[snip]As Vice President Al Gore and Mark O. Hatfield, an Oregon Republican who supported the bill, watched, the two Senate leaders, Bob Dole of Kansas and George J. Mitchell of Maine, pronounced the measure adopted by unanimous consent. That is a parliamentary device allowing the leaders to pass the legislation themselves by voice vote after ascertaining that no senator would object.
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/25/us/gun-control-act-wins-final-battle-as-gop-retreats.html


46 posted on 04/26/2013 3:07:42 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: pabianice

These people are truly sick. They act like that gun bill was one freakin sentence.


47 posted on 04/26/2013 3:31:36 PM PDT by GamecockD
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To: pabianice

He’s still on about Newton after BOSTON


48 posted on 04/26/2013 4:06:20 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: pabianice

But, can they absolutely guarantee their law banning AR-15 will prevent another massacre? if they can’t, they are just blowing smoke.


49 posted on 04/26/2013 4:26:21 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
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To: pabianice

If that is what it will take, that is what will happen.


50 posted on 04/26/2013 4:30:20 PM PDT by sport
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