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| April 24, 2013
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Posted on 04/24/2013 4:49:16 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: KarlInOhio
Very unlikely to be a "ballistic" missile if it is meant to be aimed at a ship unless it is one in port. Ballistic means that it just follows the path of gravity rather than being able to guided to its target. You won't have a chance to get a direct hit on a ship at sea unless it is traveling at a constant speed and direction for the entire time it takes to target, launch and fly the missile without some type of terminal guidance.The resident AC carrier haters will disagree....
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:11:47 AM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: buckalfa; FreeAtlanta
Sometimes paradigm shifts in naval warfare are learned the hard way. Draw a line between Billy Mitchell’s dive-bomber tests against ships, and this Chinese missile.
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:11:59 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: Travis McGee
Also, you need a way to acquire the target.
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:13:26 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
To: AppyPappy
Good point. Is Chinese sat coverage good enough for that? Our intel guys will track all of their sat passes, and make ship turns when unseen.
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:16:16 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: central_va
Posted above.
Ballistic is no longer used in a limited sense, and ICBMs have always had mid course guidance systems. In this case, the reentry guided warhead is delivered to a “basket”, which covers all possible positions of the ship (30 kts just doesn’t take you far in 10 minutes). The reentry vehicle then guides the warhead into the ship using either radar, IR, or a combination of both.
13 posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:38:36 AM by SampleMan
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:17:11 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: Travis McGee
If we even thought a Chinese satellite was fixing to get ready to even think about that, it wouldn’t be able to do it anymore.
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:22:45 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
To: Travis McGee
Ballistic is no longer used in a limited sense, and ICBMs have always had mid course guidance systems. In this case, the reentry guided warhead is delivered to a basket, which covers all possible positions of the ship (30 kts just doesnt take you far in 10 minutes). The reentry vehicle then guides the warhead into the ship using either radar, IR, or a combination of both.If it has an active terminal guidance system then it is not a ballistic weapon. It is some kind of hybrid.
Any terminal homing IR etc. will be detectable. If it uses GPS then it won't work in wartime as GPS sats will be disabled.
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:23:43 AM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: SampleMan
Ballistic is no longer used in a limited sense, and ICBMs have always had mid course guidance systems. Thanks. I didn't know how much terminal guidance "ballistic" missiles had now. I suspected that ICBMs' warheads did have some type of guidance to be able to get into the hundred yard errors when shot from half way around the world, but really haven't looked into the details recently.
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:24:27 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
To: MasterGunner01
The Navy could also strike the DF-21D launch sites with nuclear warheads.
Defensive ABM lasers are a great idea: there’s no harm in defense in depth + its good to be able to survive a first strike + ABM lasers allow the interdiction of non-nuclear missiles as well.
But if the enemy threaten the use of tactical nukes then there’s no point in keeping the gloves on.
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:31:48 AM PDT
by
agere_contra
(I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
To: Venturer
Large carriers are now large targets.A friend of mine was a USN submariner. He said there are only two kinds of naval craft....submarines and targets.
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:39:09 AM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
To: agere_contra
All very true, but we'd need someone in the White Hut [Obozo] that doesn't hate America as much as the Chicoms. Collectively, I don't think Barry Soetoro-Obama and his Iranian-born puppet master and real brain, Valerie Jarrett, would allow Dear Leader to retaliate against the Chinese in a shooting war. Obamanation would send the Chicoms a very sternly worded note delivered by SecState John “Lurch” Kerry asking for surrender terms.
To: ryan71
Until recently there was no evidence that the complete DF-21D system had been tested. But recently satellite photos showed a 200 meter long white rectangle in the Gobi Desert (in Western China) with two large craters in it. Hitting a stationary target with a ballistic missile isn't that hard when you know where it is. Hitting a moving target...?
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posted on
04/24/2013 6:53:21 AM PDT
by
0.E.O
To: ryan71
Wonder if they will demonstrate this new weapon on a Japanese vessel anytime soon?
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posted on
04/24/2013 7:15:57 AM PDT
by
ßuddaßudd
(>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
To: ryan71
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posted on
04/24/2013 7:54:58 AM PDT
by
matthew fuller
(Multiculturalism is the answer!)
To: matthew fuller
I’d like to thank the clinton administration for selling China guidance systems so as to make their missiles more accurate. Oh...did I mention, their spawn is purchasing a $14 million apartment in Manhatten?
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posted on
04/24/2013 8:27:28 AM PDT
by
hal ogen
(First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
To: Venturer
Large Carriers have ALWAYS been large targets. Why do you think the carriers travel with destroyers, cruisers, frigates, submarines, tankers, and a fully functional airwing?
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posted on
04/24/2013 9:08:19 AM PDT
by
ro_dreaming
(G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
To: MasterGunner01
The DF-21D is a maneuvering anti-ship ballistic missile with a variable yield nuclear warhead.
Without going into details, the DF-21D anti-carrier warhead is non-nuclear, and would be effective at disabling a carrier.
To: MasterGunner01
“...Delivered by John Kerry OFFERING surrender terms.”
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posted on
04/24/2013 9:50:26 AM PDT
by
DPMD
To: ryan71
“But recently satellite photos showed a 200 meter long white rectangle in the Gobi Desert (in Western China) with two large craters in it”
That rules out the Gobi as an operational carrier area.
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posted on
04/24/2013 9:51:59 AM PDT
by
Rebelbase
(1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
To: KarlInOhio
Ballistic does not mean unguided.
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posted on
04/24/2013 10:17:30 AM PDT
by
Magnum44
(I have had just about enough)
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