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Gosnell lawyer: 'Ludicrous' to say a baby is alive just because itís moving
Lifesite News ^ | 4/23/13 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 04/23/2013 5:56:47 PM PDT by Nachum

PHILADELPHIA, April 23, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Kermit Gosnell's defense attorney argued today that it was “ludicrous” for an abortion clinic worker to believe a baby was alive simply because she saw it moving.

Attorney Jack McMahon told the court Gosnell's former employee saw only a baby's final, involuntary movements, not any signs of life.

“If we are going in this room to say a baby is born alive, because it moves one time without any other movement, that is ludicrous,” McMahon said. “This wasn’t a baby moving!”

Lynda Williams said Gosnell told her the same thing – that the breathing she observed was involuntary.

McMahon has maintained that his client snipped baby's necks outside the womb only to assure “fetal demise.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alive; deathpanels; gosnell; kermitgosnell; lawyer; ludicrous; markomalley; moralabsolutes; obamacare; zerocare

1 posted on 04/23/2013 5:56:47 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I’ve been saying the same thing about lawyers for years. Flippin’ zombies.


2 posted on 04/23/2013 5:58:07 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (How's YOUR "fundamental transformation" coming along? Mine isn't workin' out.)
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To: Nachum
Kermit Gosnell's defense attorney argued today that it was “ludicrous” for an abortion clinic worker to believe a baby was alive simply because she saw it moving.

See, it depends upon your definition of the word "is."

3 posted on 04/23/2013 5:58:37 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Nachum

Is a chicken running around with its head cut off alive?
Same with babies, according to this scumbag lawyer.


4 posted on 04/23/2013 5:59:19 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Nachum
So now he's an MD?

Doubt if he's ever seen the inside of a biology classroom.

5 posted on 04/23/2013 6:01:28 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: FReepers
Abortion Is Murder
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6 posted on 04/23/2013 6:04:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Nachum

Our morals and culture is lost.


7 posted on 04/23/2013 6:04:22 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Nachum

SAY WHAT?????


8 posted on 04/23/2013 6:07:26 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

What a beautiful, precious baby... Lord, Jesus, please help us...


9 posted on 04/23/2013 6:09:25 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Nachum

What a sicko.

I guess it’s true that there’s a lid for every trash can. Looks like Gosnell found his. What a pair he & his lawyer make.


10 posted on 04/23/2013 6:11:08 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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There it is; simply put.

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11 posted on 04/23/2013 6:11:12 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Nachum

Lawyers and Democrat if they are moving it does not mean they are alive either. What a moronic lawyer so lets utilize the above analogy, so at the next election we can just declare democrats are not alive so they cannot vote until the next day. They are brain dead so they would not know the difference.


12 posted on 04/23/2013 6:14:01 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Nachum

Leftist lawyer got several of the murder charges dropped.
This doesn’t look too good for conviction.


13 posted on 04/23/2013 6:16:57 PM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Last time I checked...breathing WAS an involuntary bodily function...to stay alive...


14 posted on 04/23/2013 6:18:05 PM PDT by bike800
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To: Nachum
Let's not be too quick to judge.

It was a pretty windy day as I recall.

Flopping around in the wind doesn't make any of us a viable fetus after all.

15 posted on 04/23/2013 6:21:05 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Nachum

‘The breathing was involuntary’

All breathing Is involuntary dumb a$$!


16 posted on 04/23/2013 6:22:37 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: mohresearcher
He still faces several charges that are indefensible. ANY member of a jury with a conscience will not allow anyone to talk them out of a conviction.
17 posted on 04/23/2013 6:26:11 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Nachum

Right - so when a lawyer is moving he’s not necessarily alive. I can believe that.


18 posted on 04/23/2013 6:27:38 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Nachum
“If we are going in this room to say a baby is born alive, because it moves one time without any other movement, that is ludicrous,” McMahon said. “This wasn’t a baby moving!”

So the baby moved, but it wasn't a baby moving. And the baby's heart was beating, but it wasn't a baby's heart beating. And the baby was breathing, but it wasn't a baby breathing. And the surgical glove doesn't fit, so you must acquit!

19 posted on 04/23/2013 6:41:20 PM PDT by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives)
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To: Nachum
First thing abandoned in today's so called Halls Of Justice is Truth. The second thing abandoned is any shread of morality or ethics.

Isaiah 5: v20Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil; that dark is light and light is dark; that bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter. 21Destruction is certain for those who think they are wise and consider themselves to be clever. 22Destruction is certain for those who are heroes when it comes to drinking, who boast about all the liquor they can hold. 23They take bribes to pervert justice. They let the wicked go free while punishing the innocent.

20 posted on 04/23/2013 6:43:33 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Nachum

Progressives are dwelling in the bowels of the (culture of death) they usher in the damned. A Reminiscences in poetry from another pogrom.

From the Waste land by T.S. Eliot

V. WHAT THE THUNDER SAID

After the torch-light red on sweaty faces
After the frosty silence in the gardens
After the agony in stony places
The shouting and the crying
Prison and place and reverberation
Of thunder of spring over distant mountains
He who was living is now dead
We who were living are now dying
With a little patience

Here is no water but only rock
Rock and no water and the sandy road
The road winding above among the mountains
Which are mountains of rock without water
If there were water we should stop and drink
Amongst the rock one cannot stop or think
Sweat is dry and feet are in the sand
If there were only water amongst the rock
Dead mountain mouth of carious teeth that cannot spit
Here one can neither stand nor lie nor sit
There is not even silence in the mountains
But dry sterile thunder without rain
There is not even solitude in the mountains
But red sullen faces sneer and snarl
From doors of mud-cracked houses
If there were water


21 posted on 04/23/2013 6:45:55 PM PDT by notted
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’ve been saying the same thing about lawyers for years. Flippin’ zombies.

Many are heartless, soulless, and brain dead so I guess that’s a pretty accurate assessment....: )


22 posted on 04/23/2013 6:59:52 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Nachum

Can we bury this lawyer then? Just because he’s moving, doesn’t mean he isn’t dead.


23 posted on 04/23/2013 7:01:22 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: TChad

> “fetal demise”

Thats a fancy way of saying’ baby killing...


24 posted on 04/23/2013 7:01:49 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Nachum

holy crap these people are evil pieces of shit!


25 posted on 04/23/2013 7:03:16 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: bike800

Oh and what about the witness that heard one baby scream when the butcher was severing it’s neck?

Guess that wasn’t a sign of being born alive...


26 posted on 04/23/2013 7:26:11 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: All; Nachum

I read a Twiter message that, while the Gosnell trial goes on, Obama will be the keynote speaker at tax-funded Planned Parenthood gala in DC.


27 posted on 04/23/2013 7:47:59 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Nachum

Gosnell is moving.... Maybe someone should hand the baliff a pair of scissors...

He is not alive anyway...


28 posted on 04/23/2013 7:49:22 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Mr. K
holy crap these people are evil pieces of...

Couldn't have said it better myself

29 posted on 04/23/2013 7:52:04 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Breathing isn’t a voluntary action, to begin with. Not breathing is a voluntary action, when you hold your breath.

the lawyer should be horse-whipped for being an idiot.


30 posted on 04/23/2013 7:54:09 PM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Lancey Howard

That headless chicken stayed alive for several years!


31 posted on 04/23/2013 7:58:06 PM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: jsanders2001
Thats a fancy way of saying’ baby killing...

And Gosnell's plumbing was clogged by... let's just say "cells."

32 posted on 04/23/2013 8:24:07 PM PDT by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives)
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To: Nachum
Gosnell lawyer: 'Ludicrous' to say a baby is alive just because it’s moving

When a lawyer has to revert to this as a defense I would give a 100 to 1 odds the Doc is toast and the lawyer is quite aware of it.

The average common sense juror would consider such a statement as an insult to their intelligence.

Although the jury has not yet delivered a verdict I say IT'S OVER. GUILTY!

33 posted on 04/23/2013 8:42:41 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor
Although the jury has not yet delivered a verdict I say IT'S OVER. GUILTY!

I hope you are right, but we should be prepared for OJ, The Sequel.

34 posted on 04/23/2013 8:55:02 PM PDT by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives)
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To: Nachum

"What you do to the unborn child,

you do to Jesus."

 

- Mother Teresa of Calcutta 

35 posted on 04/23/2013 8:58:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: jsanders2001

I’m a defense attorney, but I have to say I wouldn represent this human scum for anything short of a billion dollars and a constitutional amendment banning abortion with the only exception being to save the life of the mother who is in imminent danger and there is no way to save them both.
That is so rare that it probably constitutes .000001% of all abortions.


36 posted on 04/23/2013 9:15:46 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

the lowest level of hell is reserved for these kinds of lawyers.


37 posted on 04/23/2013 10:30:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

only a segment of it. it only feels like more because it’s gotten larger the last 50 years.


38 posted on 04/23/2013 10:32:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

They want this guy to walk.


39 posted on 04/23/2013 10:34:25 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

he’s one of their exalted high priests. they love their baby butchers.


40 posted on 04/23/2013 10:47:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

bump


41 posted on 04/23/2013 10:51:07 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Nachum

I guess the attorneys gonna burn in hell too.


42 posted on 04/23/2013 11:22:40 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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