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FBI HUNTING 12 STRONG TERRORIST 'SLEEPER CELL'linked to brothers Tamerlan & Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
UK Daily Mirror ^ | 4/22/13 00:01

Posted on 04/21/2013 5:52:39 PM PDT by drewh

The FBI was last night hunting a 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to the Boston marathon bomb brothers.

Police believe Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack.

More than 1,000 FBI operatives were last night working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar’s dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.

A source close to the investigation said: “We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.

“They were too advanced. Someone gave the brothers the skills and it is now our job to find out just who they were. Agents think the sleeper cell has up to a dozen members and has been waiting several years for their day to come.”

A specialist team of CIA and FBI interrogators was yesterday flown to a Boston hospital to grill wounded Dzhokhar, 19, about the secret group. The University of Massachusetts student was caught on Friday after hiding out in a boat parked in a garden in locked down Watertown the day after a gun battle with police left his 26-year-old brother and a rookie cop dead.

Dzhokhar is said to have run his brother over as he escaped in a stolen car while Tamerlan lay handcuffed on the ground. They were carrying six bombs with them at the time, three of which ­exploded, as well as a handgun and rifle.

Last night Dzhokhar – badly wounded but alive – lay handcuffed to his hospital bed under armed guard. The other three arrested in the port of New Bedford are also believed to be of college age.

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bostonsleepercell; islamofascism; islamofascists; massachusetts; sleepercell; waronterror

1 posted on 04/21/2013 5:52:39 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

What are the odds on any of them being mooseSlime?


2 posted on 04/21/2013 5:53:49 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Good find. As usual, we have to get real news from overseas papers. Apparently US media morons cannot spell “sleeper.”


3 posted on 04/21/2013 5:56:31 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Release the hounds!


4 posted on 04/21/2013 5:57:10 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

Highly-sophisticated bombs that killed 3 people?


5 posted on 04/21/2013 5:58:56 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Highly-sophisticated bombs that killed 3 people?

The bombs were designed to injure and terrorize. They were highly effective. What was sophisticated about them was their ability to synchronize two separate and distinct pressure cooker devices.

6 posted on 04/21/2013 6:02:27 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: drewh

Meanwhile, the Mayor of Boston is telling everyone who’ll listen they acted alone.


7 posted on 04/21/2013 6:02:49 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: drewh
.....”arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar’s dramatic capture”....

Some thought the “force” that came out in Boston was over the top and not necessary. But our guys don't move tanks etc. like that unless they see something more than “two” suspects on the run.....

I believe fully this was done to show ALL the bast*tards, hiding in their holes, who they'd be dealing with if they opted to raise their ugly heads then and later!

8 posted on 04/21/2013 6:05:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: rawcatslyentist

9 posted on 04/21/2013 6:06:50 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: justa-hairyape
The bombs were designed to injure and terrorize. They were highly effective. What was sophisticated about them was their ability to synchronize two separate and distinct pressure cooker devices.

Another goal was to get attention.

10 posted on 04/21/2013 6:07:14 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: drewh

Interesting, was helping my brother pick up a used Jeep today and the mouthpiece was saying they acted alone.


11 posted on 04/21/2013 6:09:48 PM PDT by mykroar (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.-Thomas Paine)
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To: dontreadthis

Hey remember the green slime that came in the little trash can in the eighties? Why’d they stop making that? Also, why’d they stop making scratch n sniff stickers?


12 posted on 04/21/2013 6:11:13 PM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Imagine being the person responsible for “closed captioning” when the Mayor speaks.


13 posted on 04/21/2013 6:12:06 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: justa-hairyape
The bombs were designed to injure and terrorize. They were highly effective. What was sophisticated about them was their ability to synchronize two separate and distinct pressure cooker devices.

The effect would have been much greater if they had killed dozens. In fact, a truck bearing a couple of tons of fuel oil saturated explosives coming at the marathon runners around the beginning of the race would have killed hundreds. Bottom line is that this attack reeks of amateurism. Classic Iraqi attack - a vanguard of attackers blasting away at police road blocks on full automatic to clear the way, as the bomb truck lumbers into the target and detonates.

14 posted on 04/21/2013 6:14:20 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: caww
I believe fully this was done to show ALL the bast*tards, hiding in their holes, who they'd be dealing with if they opted to raise their ugly heads then and later!

I think there was and is some definite beating of the bushes going on.
15 posted on 04/21/2013 6:15:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Mmmm mmm mmm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0pxPhr_hLo


16 posted on 04/21/2013 6:16:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Zhang Fei
"Highly-sophisticated bombs that killed 3 people?"

The bombs were placed at street level, where they caused mainly severe leg injuries, including numerous amputations. Had they been placed higher, those would have become head injuries and decapitations... in other words scores of deaths.

It was the placement of the bombs that made them less deadly. The triggers and hardware worked reliably, and did show expertise. I'm pretty sure the investigation will turn up that a pro either trained them or handed them the triggers ready made.

17 posted on 04/21/2013 6:17:20 PM PDT by drangundsturm
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To: justa-hairyape

Even the scenario I put up would represent a waste of human resources. A better strategy to be to park a stolen delivery truck filled with a fertilizer bomb next to some random office building and detonate it remotely after the driver is whisked away in a getaway car. This whole Boston thing reeks of amateurism.


18 posted on 04/21/2013 6:19:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: drewh
The FBI was last night hunting a 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to the Boston marathon bomb brothers.

That can't be. Mayor Mumbles on ABC this morning told George Steponallofus that the two brothers acted alone.

19 posted on 04/21/2013 6:20:10 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: drewh

What happened to “we don’t know who they are but we’re sure they acted alone and this is an isolated incident”?


20 posted on 04/21/2013 6:20:37 PM PDT by informavoracious (The ancient Greeks and Romans thought they were on the "right side of history.")
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To: 5thGenTexan

All politicians care about is tax revenue.


21 posted on 04/21/2013 6:20:58 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Zhang Fei
We do not know what their motives were. If my conspiracy holds, they were just trying to frame the Sauds who were trying to frame them. Killing was not the main objective at the Marathon. Otherwise they would have opened fire with all the guns and grenades they had.
22 posted on 04/21/2013 6:23:03 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: MNDude

lawyers?


23 posted on 04/21/2013 6:25:50 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: drangundsturm
The bombs were placed at street level, where they caused mainly severe leg injuries, including numerous amputations. Had they been placed higher, those would have become head injuries and decapitations... in other words scores of deaths.

It was the placement of the bombs that made them less deadly. The triggers and hardware worked reliably, and did show expertise. I'm pretty sure the investigation will turn up that a pro either trained them or handed them the triggers ready made.

I'd think pro training would have incorporated the vehicle bomb, which is not some kind of technological breakthrough, having been used for a century including during the Wall Street bombing. Does anyone really think bombing a marathon made for bigger headlines than an Oklahoma City-style bombing would have? McVeigh attempted to minimize non-government casualties. If he had chosen a street with buildings on all sides, a thousand people might have died. A Islamist pro isn't going to be worried about these niceties.

24 posted on 04/21/2013 6:28:21 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: drewh

25 posted on 04/21/2013 6:28:23 PM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: Zhang Fei

I picked up on that one right away. A Freeper who claimed to be an electrical engineer posted a message on an earlier thread indicating that these bombs were not only very simple, but also exposed the two mutants to some potential danger because of the possibility of an accidental detonation when using a remote-control car detonation device like what has been described for these bombs.


26 posted on 04/21/2013 6:28:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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It's a pretty sorry situation when we have to get news -- or even educated speculation -- from a British tabloid, and a Labour-supporting one, at that.

They may well be right; I suspect they're closer to the truth than the Boston Mayor, and various Administration and (U.S.) media talking heads, who assert that the two perps were acting on their own, and that we must not read anything into their religion, which, as we all know, is a Religion of Peace.

The President warns us not to leap to conclusions, and that makes sense. Unfortunately, his own Administration, and his media sycophants, didn't follow this advice in the hours immediately following the bombings. David Axlerod, to cite one of many examples, quickly suggested, absent a shred of evidence, that the bombings could have been by tax protestors. The disappointment in some quarters that the perps were not Tea Party followers, and did not have NRA membership cards in their pockets, was palpable.

Meanwhile, our "opinion leaders" not only avoid jumping to conclusions; they make a conscious effort to avoid seeing the obvious. Anyone who so much as raises the possibility of a connection to al Qaeda or other terrorist groups risks being labeled as an Islamophobe. Such a label, to me, isn't pejorative; rather, it connotes an ability to connect the dots. There are none so blind as they who will not see.
27 posted on 04/21/2013 6:29:30 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
The President warns us not to leap to conclusions, and that makes sense.

Incorrect. Nothing this President has ever said has made sense. Not logically. And certainly not morally.

28 posted on 04/21/2013 6:34:47 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: mykroar
CNN also has several stories in print on their website that says the exact, 180 degree, opposite - that it is believed they acted alone and the FBI is not pursuing any additional leads.

According to the FedGov's propoganda mouthpiece, "The terror is over"...riiiiigghhtt...

29 posted on 04/21/2013 6:40:16 PM PDT by Redplum
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To: Alberta's Child
I picked up on that one right away. A Freeper who claimed to be an electrical engineer posted a message on an earlier thread indicating that these bombs were not only very simple, but also exposed the two mutants to some potential danger because of the possibility of an accidental detonation when using a remote-control car detonation device like what has been described for these bombs.

From the FBI's standpoint, I think it sounds a lot better to say that they were unable to prevent these attacks because they were staged by professionals than to tell the truth, which is that they couldn't track these guys through the usual sigint and informant networks because they were just a couple of Islamist palookas screwing around.

It's the Katrina syndrome - the public blames Bush for Katrina's aftermath even though he did everything in his power. Some things are just out of your hands. I don't doubt the FBI did all it reasonably could. I suspect there are huge numbers of domestic Muslims (and non-Muslims who want to see what the enemy looks like) who view jihadist web sites. If you added every one of them up, you'd end up with tens of thousands of suspects, if not more. There's nowhere near enough manpower to cover all of them.

30 posted on 04/21/2013 6:41:01 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I agree with you, for the most part. The only added complication here that needs to be scrutinized is the FBI’s prior investigation of the older brother. I mean — maybe it’s me, but if I was called in to investigate a recent immigrant for radical Islamic ties on the basis of a request from a foreign government (and not just any government, but the Russian government), you can bet that guy would be on my radar screen constantly.


31 posted on 04/21/2013 6:45:29 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Alberta's Child
I agree with you, for the most part. The only added complication here that needs to be scrutinized is the FBI’s prior investigation of the older brother. I mean — maybe it’s me, but if I was called in to investigate a recent immigrant for radical Islamic ties on the basis of a request from a foreign government (and not just any government, but the Russian government), you can bet that guy would be on my radar screen constantly.

The Russian government, with its Soviet record of sending domestic political dissidents to gulags and its post-Soviet continuation of a record of assassinating dissidents-in-exile?

32 posted on 04/21/2013 6:50:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Good point. But this guy surely didn't meet the same level of interest you've described. If he was over here and his parents (or his father, at least) had traveled back to Russia for extended periods of time, then he's hardly someone who would warrant much interest or scrutiny from the Russian government as a "dissident" of some kind.

I'll tell what I think happened here: The U.S. government has been quietly supporting those Chechen separatists for years despite their violent history, so they probably didn't pay any mind to the Russians at all.

33 posted on 04/21/2013 6:58:38 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: MNDude
It's still available at Toys R Us

The guy that said lawyers may be on to something though From May 26, 2004 article from The Onion - Veterans of the '80s cult classic TV show You Can't Do That On Television filed a $1 billion class-action lawsuit against Nickelodeon Monday

34 posted on 04/21/2013 7:07:27 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: justa-hairyape
We do not know what their motives were. If my conspiracy holds, they were just trying to frame the Sauds who were trying to frame them. Killing was not the main objective at the Marathon. Otherwise they would have opened fire with all the guns and grenades they had.

The al Sauds are not a monolith. While there are princelings who hope to ascend the throne by using third parties, including perhaps Islamist terrorists, I doubt the guy in charge really wants to rock the boat. There are probably plenty of wealthy non-royal Saudis harboring ambitions of their own, including perhaps parts of the bin Laden family. After all, in an oil-producing country where the government owns the oil, power is money.

As to what pros can do with limited resources, I'd point to the Bali bombing. 200 dead in a nightclub vs 3 dead at a road race. I think it's pretty clear that the nightclub bombing is far more frightening.

35 posted on 04/21/2013 7:09:40 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
I think it's pretty clear that the nightclub bombing is far more frightening.

How in the world can that be clear at all ? You are comparing the terror experienced in one country and culture to another country ? Let me know when you shift is over.

36 posted on 04/21/2013 7:19:00 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: ConservativeStatement

Mumbles speaks Meninoese and that can’t be translated yet.


37 posted on 04/21/2013 7:20:11 PM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Alberta's Child
Good point. But this guy surely didn't meet the same level of interest you've described. If he was over here and his parents (or his father, at least) had traveled back to Russia for extended periods of time, then he's hardly someone who would warrant much interest or scrutiny from the Russian government as a "dissident" of some kind. I'll tell what I think happened here: The U.S. government has been quietly supporting those Chechen separatists for years despite their violent history, so they probably didn't pay any mind to the Russians at all.

I don't think there's any organized effort by Chechens to attack the US, not only because we're not their enemy, but because we're covertly their allies (although not friends). I think this was a couple of screw-ups doing what they do when they have a Travis Bickle moment. They claim to have been big shots back in Russia, They certainly weren't big shots stateside. This attack was their way of venting. Don't get me wrong - there are probably tens of thousands of Muslims or more who think the way these mooks did about Uncle Sam's relationship with Islam. The difference is that most of those Muslims shrug it off the way normal people shrug off the injustice of the day.

38 posted on 04/21/2013 7:20:33 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: justa-hairyape
How in the world can that be clear at all ? You are comparing the terror experienced in one country and culture to another country ? Let me know when you shift is over.

I was pointing out that something similar to the Bali attack, with a 200 person body count, carried out here would be far more frightening than the Boston Marathon attack.

39 posted on 04/21/2013 7:24:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: drangundsturm; Zhang Fei
It was the placement of the bombs that made them less deadly. The triggers and hardware worked reliably, and did show expertise. I'm pretty sure the investigation will turn up that a pro either trained them or handed them the triggers ready made.

On the video and all images I've seen, they looked calm as if they had rehearsed the attack quite a bit or had carried out similar attack(s) in some other part of the world.

40 posted on 04/21/2013 7:31:31 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301
On the video and all images I've seen, they looked calm as if they had rehearsed the attack quite a bit or had carried out similar attack(s) in some other part of the world.

You know how dogs have different temperaments, depending on the breed? It wouldn't surprise me if Chechens were born with the temperaments of stone killers.

41 posted on 04/21/2013 7:44:03 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
You know how dogs have different temperaments, depending on the breed? It wouldn't surprise me if Chechens were born with the temperaments of stone killers.

Good point. I look at these bombers as determined amateurs. They were good enough to do what it took to pull off the attack and that's where it stops.

42 posted on 04/21/2013 7:53:38 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Zhang Fei
A Islamist pro isn't going to be worried about these niceties.

Amateur terror cells, incited by generalized rhetoric from jihadist websites, in poor communication with any central structure.

That's what we have in our country right now after over a decade of taking it to AQ overseas, but doing nothing about it here.

So what's your point?

43 posted on 04/21/2013 8:07:12 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Amateur terror cells, incited by generalized rhetoric from jihadist websites, in poor communication with any central structure. That's what we have in our country right now after over a decade of taking it to AQ overseas, but doing nothing about it here. So what's your point?

Same as it was before, that this was probably a Muslim version of James Holmes, with a partial Islamist motivation. Partial because they did not go around whacking any civilian they could lay their hands on, the way thoroughly indoctrinated Islamist pros have done in pretty much every attack they've mounted.

44 posted on 04/21/2013 8:18:07 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Which brings up another question: Why was the father able to go back to Russia for extended visits?

The family came here seeking political asylum - yet they were able to return to Russia repeatedly? Looks like they lied.


45 posted on 04/21/2013 8:30:13 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Amateur terror cells, incited by generalized rhetoric from jihadist websites, in poor communication with any central structure. That's what we have in our country right now after over a decade of taking it to AQ overseas, but doing nothing about it here. So what's your point?

Same as it was before, that this was probably a Muslim version of James Holmes, with a partial Islamist motivation. Partial because they did not go around whacking any civilian they could lay their hands on, the way thoroughly indoctrinated Islamist pros have done in pretty much every attack they've mounted.

We have seen the links on their web pages. They were apparently buying into radical Islam. I don't see any other motivation for what they did other than a radical Islam. If you can identify another motivation, have at it.

And saying that they didn't whack every citizen that they could get their hands on doesn't make your point about their motivation.

Again what we have in this country now our numerous "amateur" jihadists, incited by generalized words on radical websites. They make their make their own "amateur" plans and they carry them out.

It's the new AQ paradigm, for now.

46 posted on 04/21/2013 8:41:14 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: dontreadthis

Kahlua at the bar!


47 posted on 04/21/2013 9:00:55 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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