North Caucasus Rebels Deny Link to Boston Attack ( We Kill Much Better )

Google ^ | 04/21/13 | Dmitry Zaks

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North Caucasus rebels deny link to Boston attack By Dmitry Zaks (AFP) – 1 hour ago MOSCOW, Russia — A prominent rebel group from Russia's North Caucasus on Sunday denied any link to the deadly Boston Marathon bombings that have been blamed on two ethnic-Chechen suspects.

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"The command of the Vilayat Dagestan mujahedeen... declares that the Caucasus fighters are not waging any military activities against the United States of America," said a statement posted on the rebels' Kavkazcenter.com and Vdagestan.info websites. "We are only fighting Russia, which is not only responsible for the occupation of the Caucasus, but also for monstrous crimes against Muslims," the rebels said. Both sites are viewed as mouthpieces of the North Caucasus guerrillas and are banned from being cited by the Russian media. US news reports had earlier said the FBI was studying possible links between the two main suspects -- brothers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev -- and the Caucasus Emirate movement led by feared warlord Doku Umarov. A statement issued by the FBI on Friday said Tamerlan had been questioned by the US authorities in 2011 at the request of a foreign government later identified as Russia. The FBI statement said Moscow believed Tamerlan was "a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer." But the agency at the time time "did not find any terrorist activity" associated with the older brother and dropped its investigation. The US media reports said authorities were now especially interested in the Vilayat Dagestan offshoot of Umarov's group. But the rebels in their statement argued that Umarov never targeted foreigners and did not view them as a threat to his dream of establishing an Islamist state across the southern swathes of Russia. "The command of the Vilayat Dagestan mujahedeen calls on the US media especially to stop their speculation and not to assist the Russian propaganda," the Internet statement said. Monday's double bomb attack on the Boston Marathon killed three people and wounded about 180. The 19-year-old Dzhokhar is in serious condition in a Boston hospital following a massive manhunt on Friday in which 26-year-old Tamerlan was killed. Russian authorities said Sunday they were also checking the siblings' links to the fighters but had been unable to find any so far. "At the moment, we have no credible information about the Tsarnaev brothers' involvement with the Caucasus Emirate movement," an unnamed Russian security source told the Interfax news agency. Much of the speculation has swirled around the role of the late Tamerlan because he had a YouTube account with a playlist of men he identified as "terrorists" and Islamic preachers. One link features a nearly hour-long speech by an Islamist with followers among the Dagestani guerrillas, according to intelligence sources in the United States. The Tsarnaev family has said that Tamerlan visited Dagestan for six months last year. One Russian report added that Tamerlan's father Anzor had kicked his son out of his house because he began displaying radical Islamist ideology. The younger brother Dzhokhar -- badly wounded by the time he was detained by authorities on Friday -- also identified Islam as his "world view" on a Russian social media website. Dzhokhar also lists information about Chechnya and Islam as well as different mosques around the world. Dagestan -- a Caspian Sea region of almost three million people with a large ethnic Chechen minority -- has been one of the most violent regions of Russia since the second of two post-Soviet era wars ended in Chechnya about a decade ago. Caucasus Emirates leader Umarov is widely recognised as Russia's public enemy number one who has staged some of the deadliest bombings in Moscow and across the North Caucasus in the past five years. He claimed responsibility for a Moscow airport attack in January 2011 that claimed 37 lives as well as earlier twin metro bombings in 2010 in which more than 40 people died.

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"The command of the Vilayat Dagestan mujahedeen... declares that the Caucasus fighters are not waging any military activities against the United States of America," said a statement posted on the rebels' Kavkazcenter.com and Vdagestan.info websites.

"We are only fighting Russia, which is not only responsible for the occupation of the Caucasus, but also for monstrous crimes against Muslims," the rebels said. Both sites are viewed as mouthpieces of the North Caucasus guerrillas and are banned from being cited by the Russian media.

US news reports had earlier said the FBI was studying possible links between the two main suspects -- brothers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev -- and the Caucasus Emirate movement led by feared warlord Doku Umarov.

A statement issued by the FBI on Friday said Tamerlan had been questioned by the US authorities in 2011 at the request of a foreign government later identified as Russia.

The FBI statement said Moscow believed Tamerlan was "a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer."

But the agency at the time time "did not find any terrorist activity" associated with the older brother and dropped its investigation.

The US media reports said authorities were now especially interested in the Vilayat Dagestan offshoot of Umarov's group.

But the rebels in their statement argued that Umarov never targeted foreigners and did not view them as a threat to his dream of establishing an Islamist state across the southern swathes of Russia.

"The command of the Vilayat Dagestan mujahedeen calls on the US media especially to stop their speculation and not to assist the Russian propaganda," the Internet statement said.

Monday's double bomb attack on the Boston Marathon killed three people and wounded about 180.

The 19-year-old Dzhokhar is in serious condition in a Boston hospital following a massive manhunt on Friday in which 26-year-old Tamerlan was killed. Russian authorities said Sunday they were also checking the siblings' links to the fighters but had been unable to find any so far.

"At the moment, we have no credible information about the Tsarnaev brothers' involvement with the Caucasus Emirate movement," an unnamed Russian security source told the Interfax news agency.

Much of the speculation has swirled around the role of the late Tamerlan because he had a YouTube account with a playlist of men he identified as "terrorists" and Islamic preachers.

One link features a nearly hour-long speech by an Islamist with followers among the Dagestani guerrillas, according to intelligence sources in the United States.

The Tsarnaev family has said that Tamerlan visited Dagestan for six months last year.

One Russian report added that Tamerlan's father Anzor had kicked his son out of his house because he began displaying radical Islamist ideology.

The younger brother Dzhokhar -- badly wounded by the time he was detained by authorities on Friday -- also identified Islam as his "world view" on a Russian social media website.

Dzhokhar also lists information about Chechnya and Islam as well as different mosques around the world.

Dagestan -- a Caspian Sea region of almost three million people with a large ethnic Chechen minority -- has been one of the most violent regions of Russia since the second of two post-Soviet era wars ended in Chechnya about a decade ago.

Caucasus Emirates leader Umarov is widely recognised as Russia's public enemy number one who has staged some of the deadliest bombings in Moscow and across the North Caucasus in the past five years.

He claimed responsibility for a Moscow airport attack in January 2011 that claimed 37 lives as well as earlier twin metro bombings in 2010 in which more than 40 people died.

[freedumb2003]

Thanks for the PPHs!

You might ask the mod to delete that 1st post...

Interesting how fast the Chechens DON’T want the US in their stuff. We may not be what we were, but we are still the baddest dudes on the planet (well, until obozo finishes his “work”).

[Navy Patriot]

( We Kill Much Better )

It would be funny if it weren't so true.

[FatherofFive]

"We are only fighting Russia, which is not only responsible for the occupation of the Caucasus, but also for monstrous crimes against Muslims," the rebels said.

The 'crimes' against Muslims are simplt to preserve civilization.

Here is what Churchill said about 'the religion of peace'

A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War", in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener's campaign in the Sudan

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

[Navy Patriot]

Interesting how fast the Chechens DON’T want the US in their stuff.

What the Chechens don't want is to lose the covert US support they are already getting.

[Beowulf9]

Love the ‘we kill much better’ part;)

[3Fingas]

No Churchills anywhere to be found today. He was an intellectual giant whose legacy and preserved widom towers over the mental midgets we have running the US and the UK today.

[353FMG]

Does that mean that the Chechens are, deep in their hearts, really nice guys?

Then what prevents us to invite all of them to immigrate?

[Huebolt]

The Russians deal very directly with muslim terrorists. Putin’s good old KGB tactics have undoubtedly caused thousands to mysteriously disappear before they could murder any more school children.

Putin publically invited jihadists to “step right up.”

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

The Russkies are actually criminals. According to Alexander Litvinenko (the guy who got poisoned with Polonium 210 awhile back), a lot of the terrorists the Russians were fighting against... were Russian agents anyway. He pointed the finger against the Russians in certain terrorist attacks in their country, wherein he cited evidence they were planned and carried out by the FSB designed to whip up support for Putin, who retaliated viciously.

All the stuff the New World Order freaks accuse the United States of... the Russians are guilty of. That’s why Russian Today and other Russkie media outlets always pimp the Truthers and other groups. It’s a line of attack that appeals to them due to their own guilt.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

There are a lot of sites out there with FSB/KGB fingerprints, including Alex Jones and Zero Hedge.

[ThermoNuclearWarrior]

The Russians aren't anyone to be emulated. We aren't dealing with a complicated issue here. We could stop most terrorist attacks by securing our borders, and not inviting them into the country. Those are common sense solutions.

www.OathKeepers.org

[SE Mom]

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[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

“There are a lot of sites out there with FSB/KGB fingerprints, including Alex Jones and Zero Hedge.”

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Yes, I know for a fact that Jones parrots Russian propaganda. Recall that spy ring awhile back with the redhead bimbo who all got deported back to Russia. One of them was a journalist of a Spanish socialist paper spreading propaganda that accused us of funding terrorists in South America, or some such thing (it’s been awhile). She works for the Moscow Times now, and a lot of her talking points wind up with Alex Jones today. (This was back during Putin’s reelection, and Jones was telling people that the U.S. was trying to destablize Russia through the civil-rights groups.) That was just one connection I happened to notice myself when I was checking out her writings. I’m sure Jones takes a lot more straight from Putin’s mouth.

[TArcher]

"The command of the Vilayat Dagestan mujahedeen... declares that the Caucasus fighters are not waging any military activities against the United States of America,"

Political borders do not constrain the spread of an infectious plague - religious, or otherwise.

 

That's especially true when Jihadist wolves can use the Internet to perch themselves upon the temple steps among a population of "coexisting" golden-calf-worshipping McSheeple whose indoctrination precludes their own intellectual and physical defense.

[TArcher]

[We could stop most terrorist attacks by securing our borders, and not inviting them into the country.]

What’s your plan for blocking IP addresses - to prevent the ideological exposure of those whose Useful Idiocy makes them receptive to infection?

Meanwhile, the open border did not prevent Colorado authorities from removing at least one physical threat:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Al+Fuqra+Colorado

What’s preventing other states where Al Fuqra operates from doing the same?

[Beowulf9]

“Does that mean that the Chechens are, deep in their hearts, really nice guys?

Then what prevents us to invite all of them to immigrate?”

Well, they’d have to come around to the Mexican border and walk across and that’s a fer peace from Russia, but then again everybody else is doing it, uninvited, so...

[luvie]

we kill much better

I'm so reassured!

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

During the Georgia invasion in 2008, also. Jones was getting his show prep directly from the Kremlin. Then Ron Paul was taking it to the floor of the House.

There’s a reason both of these guys have been mainstays on RT.