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DeMint on Immigration: “Incomprehensible, Comprehensive Bills” Not the Solution
Heritage ^ | April 20, 2013 at 9:00 am | T. Elliot Gaiser

Posted on 04/20/2013 3:55:02 PM PDT by Red Steel

Both the process and the content of the current immigration bill violate America’s core principles and legacy of immigration, according to Heritage President Jim DeMint.

“This whole process is not really American, to take a few people and go behind closed doors and then come out and suddenly have it on the floor of the Senate for debate,” said DeMint on “The Mike Huckabee Show” earlier this week. (Listen here)

“Instead of incomprehensible, comprehensive bills that are thousands of pages, we need to take a step-by-step approach so people know what we’re doing, and with immigration, the obvious priority is to fix the system that’s broken,” he told Brad Jackson and Ben Domenech on the “Coffee and Markets” podcast.

“We don’t have a citizenship problem. We have an immigration system problem,” he said.

DeMint said the bill will impose massive costs on the Medicare, Social Security, and welfare systems. “There is a significant cost to taxpayers for those who come here illegally,” he said. “In other words, they take more than they pay into the system.

In addition, the bill will sap opportunity from those who have applied to come to the United States legally. “We’ve got 4 million people who want to come to America, have applied to come here, who can’t come here lawfully,” he said.

“Immigration is a very important part of our heritage, and we need to protect those things that immigrants from all over the world come to America for, and that’s freedom and opportunity,” said DeMint.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 113th; abortion; aliens; amnesty; bendomenech; borderwars; bradjackson; carteldeocho; cfr; coffeeandmarkets; deathpanels; demint; enforcecurrentlaws; jimdemint; mikehuckabeeshow; nwo; obamacare; rubio; southcarolina; unamerican; unconservative; wot; zerocare

1 posted on 04/20/2013 3:55:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Secure the nation!! Secure the borders!! Tighten up immigration policy!! We should not allow in anyone from a nation harboring Islamic terrorists while they are at war on us!! And we do not need hordes of immigrants from any nation!! For crying out loud one quarter of our people are unemployed and fully half of our people are now living on some form of government subsistence!! And our government is all but bankrupt!! Can’t tax more, can’t borrow more, so they’re reduced to printing money to support their asinine spending habits. This must end!!


2 posted on 04/20/2013 4:03:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Vigorously enforce existing immigration laws on local, state and federal levels. They haven’t begun even that yet, but want more!


3 posted on 04/20/2013 4:06:14 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Red Steel
Single bills for single issues.

We need a "fix the border" bill.

Do that alone, then see what happens.

Maybe, just maybe, if we actually enforced the border, as required by the Constitution, and the existing immigration laws they've already passed, most of our problems would go away.

If they can't/won't enforce what they've already passed, why should we believe they'll do better with even more laws???

4 posted on 04/20/2013 4:06:26 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Red Steel
If States still appointed Senators, would gangs of eight huddle with labor and business in back rooms to make deals like this?

Restore vertical separation of powers and perhaps our republic. Repeal the 17th.

5 posted on 04/20/2013 4:08:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: GBA

“We need a “fix the border” bill.

Do that alone, then see what happens. “

Duncan Hunter did it. Got the fence bill passed. The small amount that got built, worked. Then Bush refused to fund it, or enforce it, as did Obama.


6 posted on 04/20/2013 4:11:52 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ask not what OUR country can do for you, ask what you can do for OUR country.

Not my original. Can’t remember the original poaster. Sorry.


7 posted on 04/20/2013 4:14:28 PM PDT by Mother Mary
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To: Red Steel

A bill 800 pages long with over 400 waivers and expemptions for the illegal aliens in it. Thanx Gangbangers! Hey America! It’s BOHICA Time! The Freeway to Amnesty is about to open for business.


8 posted on 04/20/2013 4:14:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Amnesty Bill - 800 pages filled with 400 waivers and exemptions for illegal aliens.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Secure the nation!! Secure the borders!! Tighten up immigration policy!!

Absolutely. I get the feeling the politicians are just looking to pass the grenade to the next generation. I think they would rather someone else do the necessary work to understand the problem and find a permanent solution.
That way they can continue with their never ending malfeasance.

9 posted on 04/20/2013 4:18:50 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: All
IMMIGRATION REFORM IS THE GATEWAY TO TERRORISM The Big Lie is that the bulk of border-crossers are Mexican----BUT we know Mexico is the staging area for all of the Third World freeloaders---that includes global terrorists bent on destroying America. Terrorists from Mideast countries are entering the US from Mexico......their swarthiness gives them a pass to masquerade as Mexican illegals

The Mexican border has become the staging area for (1) global terrorists (swarthy Mideasterners who pass for Mexicans), (2) the criminal latino uderworld, (3) Third World lowlifes, (4) drug cartels, (5) impoverished latinos hoping to win the "border lottery" in the US and the like.

US politicans are looking the other way. The word is out---"come to Mexico to infiltrate the US. It's open season to conduct your dirty deeds."

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Mexican drug cartels swarming into the US (read below) already have financial arrangements with Hamas and Hezbollah, and will be empowered to expand those partnerships via The Schumer-Rubio amnesty bill. It’s a small step from blanketing America w/ marijuana and heroin to aiding and abetting Hezbollah operatives. To these hardened criminal, the profit motive rules, no matter the source.

REFERENCE---NY POST EXCERPT--- Mexican cartels dispatch agents deep inside US - spread into non-border states

CHICAGO (AP) — Mexican drug cartels whose operatives once rarely ventured beyond the US border are dispatching some of their most trusted agents to live and work deep inside the United States — an emboldened presence that experts believe is meant to tighten their grip on the world's most lucrative narcotics market and maximize profits. If left unchecked, authorities say, the cartels' move into the American interior could render the syndicates harder than ever to dislodge and pave the way for them to expand into other criminal enterprises such as prostitution, kidnapping-and-extortion rackets and money laundering.

Some cartels even have Mexican operatives fill out job applications before being dispatched to the US, Riley added.

In Mexico, the cartels are known for a staggering number of killings — more than 50,000, according to one tally. Beheadings are sometimes a signature. So far, cartels don't appear to be directly responsible for large numbers of slayings in the United States, though the Texas Department of Public Safety reported 22 killings and five kidnappings in Texas at the hands of Mexican cartels from 2010 through mid- 2011. Still, police worry that increased cartel activity could fuel heightened violence.--SNIP--

In Chicago, the police commander who oversees narcotics investigations, James O'Grady, said street-gang disputes over turf account for most of the city's uptick in murders last year, when slayings topped 500 for the first time since 2008.

Although the cartels aren't dictating the territorial wars, they are the source of drugs. Riley's assessment is stark: He argues that the cartels should be seen as an underlying cause of Chicago's disturbingly high murder rate. "They are the puppeteers," he said. "Maybe the shooter didn't know and maybe the victim didn't know that. But if you follow it down the line, the cartels are ultimately responsible."

SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/mexican_cartels_dispatch_agents_ZsKwR5wQCvQvpBXnejs1TJ

10 posted on 04/20/2013 4:20:06 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Red Steel

“Instead of incomprehensible, comprehensive bills that are thousands of pages, we need to take a step-by-step approach”

This guy is doomed to failure. Way too much common sense.


11 posted on 04/20/2013 4:22:31 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If guns kill people, how come no one dies at gun shows?)
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To: Red Steel
Rubio needs to step back...he is becoming like McCain
12 posted on 04/20/2013 4:27:14 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: AuntB
Reagan pulled us back from the edge and began to undo the damage.

Then, the Bush family took office and immediately began undoing the Reagan revolution and all it stood for.

Bush then begot Clinton, who then begot Bush, who then begot obama.

I hate to see or admit this, as I voted four times in total for the elder and the younger, but I've come to believe that while our problems didn't begin with the Bush family, they were restarted by the Bush family.

One world order, here we come!

13 posted on 04/20/2013 4:34:52 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Red Steel
Hey,I've got an idea.Why doesn't Congress pass a 2700 page immigration “reform” bill and then,after it's passed,we can find out what's in it.That strategy has certainly worked well in the (recent) past.
14 posted on 04/20/2013 4:37:50 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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15 posted on 04/20/2013 4:43:50 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: GBA

East Germany certainly had an effective way to keep decedent Westerners out of their workers’ paradise.We should adopt a similar plan with one small difference.Unlike East Germany’s wall which,curiously,had machine guns pointed in such a way as to discourage decedent Westerners from *leaving* their country,our wall would have machine guns pointed in such a way as to prevent people from *entering*.


16 posted on 04/20/2013 4:44:47 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Red Steel; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related articles.


17 posted on 04/20/2013 4:45:58 PM PDT by HiJinx ("All it takes for evil to win...")
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To: Red Steel
The Bills that the Senate is putting forth, Obamacare, the latest gun control bill and this Immigration Bill are nothing short of treason.
18 posted on 04/20/2013 5:15:00 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: All

Correction: That should read ‘are’ putting forth, not ‘is’.


19 posted on 04/20/2013 5:17:13 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Jacquerie

“Repeal the 17th.”

Bingo. Now we have representatives that serve two year terms that we have a slight chance of voting out if they stink up the place. And in the Senate we have representatives that serve six year terms with ever increasing probability of becoming permanent fixtures. If we can’t repeal the 17th, we have to put term limits on these career politicians. Twelve years sounds about right, then they have to return to the private sector to make a productive living like the rest of us.


20 posted on 04/20/2013 5:34:00 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell, Huxley and Rand warned us about 0bama's USA)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
A bill 800 pages long with over 400 waivers and expemptions for the illegal aliens in it.

You know, I'm just sitting here wondering when the last time it was that Congress honestly put forth a bill that would elevate or improve life for the American people.

For the life of me, I can't think of a thing they've advanced in the last ten years that does anything for the people they represent. Seems that every single bill enlarges the government behemoth, rewards some select constituency, creates more restrictions and onerous barriers to liberty, or enables flat out treason to the Constitution.

It's hard not to conclude that the job of Congress has become the destruction of America.

21 posted on 04/20/2013 7:04:49 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

The Wash DC establishment pretty much exists to feed itself.
Massive legislation requires armies of bureaucrats and attorneys to generate it, interpret it, and enforce it.


22 posted on 04/20/2013 7:06:51 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Windflier

I agree. The “media” toads are portraying “immigration reform” as a life and death situation for the American people. I still don’t know why any American would be out there worrying about “immigration reform”. The only people pushing this are the buffoons on Capitol Hill. And we all know why they want this bill passed. Money! BIG money! $$$


23 posted on 04/20/2013 7:12:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Amnesty Bill - 800 pages filled with 400 waivers and exemptions for illegal aliens.)
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To: nascarnation
The Wash DC establishment pretty much exists to feed itself.

Yep. Time we put it on a starvation diet. Patriot style.

24 posted on 04/20/2013 9:13:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The “media” toads are portraying “immigration reform” as a life and death situation for the American people. I still don’t know why any American would be out there worrying about “immigration reform”.

They're not. The American people aren't clamoring for Washington to "do something" about the plight of the "poor illegals". All of the noise about this issue is coming from the traitors and sell-outs on Capitol Hill, their underlings in the state run media, and pro-illegal covens like La Raza.

The American people have consistently said in poll, after poll, after endless poll, that they want the immigration laws enforced, and for the illegals to go home.

But what the hell does our opinion matter? We just pay all the bills to support these egregious transgressions against us.

25 posted on 04/20/2013 9:20:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Red Steel

I know where they can send all those rounds purchased by DHS and other “protection” agencies...


26 posted on 04/21/2013 4:56:19 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: shove_it

I think you would enjoy this short post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3005522/posts


27 posted on 04/21/2013 5:29:48 AM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

Thanks for the link. I missed your excellent essay when you first posted it.


28 posted on 04/21/2013 11:28:35 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell, Huxley and Rand warned us about 0bama's USA)
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To: MamaDearest

Exactly. We are not enforcing the laws we have. Also, the Feds do not want the laws enforced and have gone after states who have tried to enforce the laws.


29 posted on 04/22/2013 3:15:26 PM PDT by Dante3
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