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Washington company plans five wind turbines off Coos Bay (DOE Grants)
The Oregonian ^ | April 20, 2013 | AP

Posted on 04/20/2013 3:05:11 PM PDT by jazusamo

A Washington company intends to moor five wind turbines off the Oregon coast, and hopes the project dovetails with a separate proposal for liquefied natural gas.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: doe; grants; greenenergy; obama; subsidies; wind
Short AP article, click and read about DOE subsidies.
1 posted on 04/20/2013 3:05:11 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Good luck on the dovetailing “with a separate proposal for liquefied natural gas” part!


2 posted on 04/20/2013 3:08:19 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: CMB_polarization

Yep, they’re after the grants for the wind energy.


3 posted on 04/20/2013 3:09:48 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo
The company received a $4 million grant from the Department of Energy in March. The initial grant could expand to as much as $47 million.

From what I'm seeing here in Michigan, those grants won't even begin to cover the costs (which will need to be paid again every 10 to 20 years)
4 posted on 04/20/2013 3:18:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: CMB_polarization

Chumming the waters around with sea bird paste.


5 posted on 04/20/2013 3:19:23 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: cripplecreek
That's correct but we have wind farms in the west that are basically sitting idle because maintenance is not being performed. Investor money, federal and state grants are being ripped off and these companies are ripe for Solyndra type bankruptcies.
6 posted on 04/20/2013 3:27:59 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

This should work well. Take a concept that has no payback on shore and put it out in a stormy salt environment with the added costly marine vessel or structure which requires additional maintenance.


7 posted on 04/20/2013 3:29:52 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: jazusamo

They cost twice as much to erect them offshore and in this case we’re talking 3 miles offshore which will jack the cost up even more.

$4 million to erect 5 monuments to stupidity isn’t even believable.

Oregon has dams, that’s green energy that actually works every day, all day.


8 posted on 04/20/2013 3:32:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: jazusamo
This ought to enhance the beauty of the area.. /s

How many waterfowl/seabirds will be butchered?.. Hello, environmentalists, HELLO????

9 posted on 04/20/2013 3:33:37 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly...We in OR & WA are fortunate that a huge amount of power is generated from the dams on the Columbia River, cheap power.


10 posted on 04/20/2013 3:38:01 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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11 posted on 04/20/2013 3:41:37 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: cripplecreek

The Oregon State government has a notoriously bad energy subsidy program that pays out more to the companies that produce the least power. As soon as the subsidy was enacted green energy companies realized they could collect multiple subsidies by splitting up their intended projects into multiple projects. The cost to the state has been tremendous, the green energy produced, insignificant.


12 posted on 04/20/2013 3:43:40 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: jazusamo

That’ll make for spectacular views (sarcasm) for tourists on what will be the former beautiful Oregon coast. Suggested locations: Cannon Beach, Astoria, Seaside, Lincoln City, Tillamook, Newport and/or Depot Bay.


13 posted on 04/20/2013 3:44:41 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: jazusamo; cripplecreek

Lots of hydro in Idaho too. Not to mention the reactors out on the INL. But the windmills go up.


14 posted on 04/20/2013 3:47:02 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: jazusamo

We have good friends in Coos Bay. In 2003 they were proposing a natural gas import terminal because the prediction was that the US production could not keep up. It was fought against. Now they are talking liquefaction for export. What a difference a few years make.

As for the wind power, this is the best location for wind turbines in the US and perhaps the capacity factor can get above 50% there. Still, would the numbers work given corrosion and maintenance costs?


15 posted on 04/20/2013 3:47:40 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: MamaDearest

They’re wrecking some beautiful countryside here in Michigan as well.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3005572/posts


16 posted on 04/20/2013 3:48:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: bigheadfred
But the windmills go up.

And the dams come out which destroys property values.
17 posted on 04/20/2013 3:50:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: bigheadfred

Thanks Fred, I was sure there is a lot of hydro in ID, sad to see the windmills going up too.


18 posted on 04/20/2013 3:53:37 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: cicero2k

I don’t see how the numbers will work out unless there’s a huge increase in rates.


19 posted on 04/20/2013 3:55:11 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: cripplecreek

A lot of Michigan is very pretty. I learned to drive in Detroit when it was a totally different place than it is now (decades ago). We vacationed at the various northern lakes and rented boats and drove to WaWa Ontario often back then.


20 posted on 04/20/2013 3:55:25 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: bigheadfred

Are those hydros in southern Idaho? I don’t recall seeing them along the interstate from Montana through Washington state (except along the gorge) while traveling.


21 posted on 04/20/2013 3:57:31 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

Yes. Along the Snake River.


22 posted on 04/20/2013 3:58:43 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: MamaDearest
I live about 70 miles west of Detroit and I like it here.

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23 posted on 04/20/2013 3:58:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MamaDearest
I'd guess all those resort towns would fight the floating windmills 3 miles off shore because tourism has basically replaced the timber industry. I just read where the last lumber mill in Josephine County is closing for lack of timber.
24 posted on 04/20/2013 4:02:06 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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25 posted on 04/20/2013 4:15:20 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: jazusamo

Alla Weinstein, the CEO of the company being subsidized (Principle Power), has dumped lots of money over the years into Democratic campaigns, including Sen. Patty Murray and the Golfer-in-Chief’s. She’s getting millions from the DOE as payback. Just another eco-scam of the taxpayer.


26 posted on 04/20/2013 4:22:12 PM PDT by CivilWarguy
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Thanks much for that info, was not aware of it but figured politics was involved.

Typical Obama Chicago way and Osama Mama is along for the ride.

27 posted on 04/20/2013 4:29:50 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

If any of you have a facebook account, post this info about Weinstein on the Oregonian, where the article originally appeared. We need to confront the left on its own turf.


28 posted on 04/20/2013 4:46:52 PM PDT by CivilWarguy
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To: CivilWarguy

More litter on the face of the country!


29 posted on 04/20/2013 4:52:11 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Cold Heart
This should work well. Take a concept that has no payback on shore and put it out in a stormy salt environment with the added costly marine vessel or structure which requires additional maintenance.

Perfect description of what liberalism does: Spend lots of money under cover of great intentions with built-in problems (at times catastrophes) that will require lots more spending to address but never resolve.

30 posted on 04/20/2013 5:02:41 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: jazusamo; MamaDearest; cripplecreek
Just for grins I just took a drive over to Gem Lake. About 4 miles from me as the road flies. From the top of the dam. If you look close you can see the windmills under the sign.

This isn't a huge facility. But they could put them all along this river without hurting a thing.

31 posted on 04/20/2013 5:16:55 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

Looks like it’s a pretty good effort to get the state and federal subsidies and you can bet they’ll keep putting up more as long as those subsidies continue.


32 posted on 04/20/2013 5:43:16 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

And we’re all too happy too fork over that money to the government./s We used to get a nice credit on our power bill because of these 2 (another above town) power stations in Idaho Falls. But when Rocky Mountain Power took over that went away.


33 posted on 04/20/2013 5:46:28 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

So those tourism brochures along the Snake River have “scenery” not in the brochures probably?


34 posted on 04/20/2013 6:38:50 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: bigheadfred

That photo could be a duplicate for the closed aluminum mill area at the Goldendale cutoff off I-84 in the Gorge. I’ve driven that road many times in the past on my west to the ocean.


35 posted on 04/20/2013 6:41:04 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: cripplecreek

Just about everyone I knew in Ohio and Michigan had boats and fished. Haven’t fished in years, but at the time long ago it was relaxing and the views were great.


36 posted on 04/20/2013 6:45:38 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest
That is a making gravel setup on farm land on the other side. They set up last summer. The telephoto just makes it show up. The state declares eminent domain and tooked that farmers fields and opened pits. He gets a nice useless empty gravel pit in return and bye bye farmland. There really isn't much in the way of big industry here. Potato processing plants and the Budweiser and Corona malting plants. They grow a lot of good malting barley around. The travel brochures probably show the upper snake along the Henry's fork, ya know, towards Yellowstone, or coming out over at Jackson Lake, Wyoming. And that is where I want the touristas--away from me. But I catch some nice trout hereabouts. Great when you can drive for 5 minutes from your house and catch a fat Rainbow, or German Brown.

Up the road a bit is this view:

Before you drop into that certain canyon to do this:

 photo Louissb-day055.jpg

Very rarely do you see anyone else in there.


37 posted on 04/20/2013 8:49:32 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

Your part of the state is stunningly beautiful. No wonder you live there.


38 posted on 04/21/2013 9:05:06 AM PDT by MamaDearest
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