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Lindsey Graham: ‘Enemy combatant’ (In Spades!!!)
Politico ^ | April 20, 2013 | KATIE GLUECK

Posted on 04/20/2013 12:55:08 PM PDT by yoe

Several Republican lawmakers are calling for the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings to be tried as an enemy combatant, rather than as an ordinary criminal.

“It is clear the events we have seen over the past few days in Boston were an attempt to kill American citizens and terrorize a major American city,” read a Saturday statement from Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), John McCain (R-Ariz.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.). “The accused perpetrators of these acts were not common criminals attempting to profit from a criminal enterprise, but terrorists trying to injure, maim, and kill innocent Americans. The suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. We do not want this suspect to remain silent.”

Their statement came after Dzhokar Tsarnaev was taken into custody and sent to the hospital Friday night.

[snip] “America is part of the battleground,” he said. “If you capture someone on the battleground, they should not be given the privilege of a civilian trial where they are given different rights...

[snip] “We continue to face threats from radical Islamists in small cells and large groups throughout the world,” they said. “They have, as their primary focus, killing as many Americans as possible, preferably within the United States. We must never lose sight of this fact and act appropriately within our laws and values.”

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Obama, Holder, and the Politically Correct will fight to give this terrorist a "civil" trial.....Dzhokar Tsarnaev is an enemy combatant in every sense if the word...he purposely did terrorize and kill Americans with intent on doing more killing had he and his brother not been stopped. He should not be denied the Death Sentence either....who wants to give him free room, board, and medical for the next 50 years!? I sure don't.
1 posted on 04/20/2013 12:55:08 PM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

BINGO! This was not a workplace incident!


2 posted on 04/20/2013 12:56:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: yoe

I thought this article would be about Lindsey Graham, enemy combatant.


3 posted on 04/20/2013 12:58:41 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: B4Ranch

No, it’ll be called a “Leisureplace Incident” I’m guessing.


4 posted on 04/20/2013 12:58:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: yoe

I disagree, he committed a crime in Massachusetts, they should try him there for the crime. 100+ accounts of assault + 4 accounts of murder.

The man is technically a U.S. Citizen and he is in America. There are no grounds for ignoring due process rights.


5 posted on 04/20/2013 12:58:51 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: yoe

This was probably why the FBI was so quick to read him Miranda Rights last night already; so he didn’t have to talk and could be tried as a citizen in a regular court of law.

This stinks more every day.


6 posted on 04/20/2013 12:59:05 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (If babies had guns, they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: yoe

He’s not an enemy combatant... constitution applies.

He’s still very much a suspect. Innocent until proven guilty before you lynch him based on the FBI 30 second of video


7 posted on 04/20/2013 12:59:32 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: yoe; cripplecreek; kabar; All

“Obama, Holder, and the Politically Correct will fight to give this terrorist a “civil” trial..”

And sadly, McCain, Graham, Rubio and the authors of this new amnesty will fight to import MORE of the same kind with NO vetting and be sure they get to vote. Hypocrites. McCain wanted to shut down Gitmo. So did Norquist.

They’re trying to throw you a bone again....McCain because of voting for more gun background checks. Don’t fall for it.


8 posted on 04/20/2013 1:00:03 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Monorprise

Agree 100%.

He should not even be tried under Federal law. I am the shocked the liberal hypocrites have not said anything about this.

He should he tried under MA law.

Obama’s prosecutors can now seek the death penalty in a state where it is banned.

Liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

Point this out to them.


9 posted on 04/20/2013 1:01:50 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been waiting for the ‘Sporting Event Incident’ designation myself.


10 posted on 04/20/2013 1:03:26 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: yoe

I don’t like it but this one is an American citizen caught on American soil. This only serves to weaken our constitution further.

Would it be OK to kill him with a drone strike on American soil?


11 posted on 04/20/2013 1:04:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Wisconsinlady

He doesn’t have to talk anyway whether he gets those “rights” read to him or not.

What does Graham want to do torture him until he co-operates?

This is so creepy.

Just remember the Feds consider Christian organizations “hate groups” who are next on the list to be discriminated against.


12 posted on 04/20/2013 1:04:56 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: yoe
I don't care if he is tried as an enemy combatant or as a common criminal as long as he is charged with murder in a court/jurisdiction that allows capital punishment and that he is charged with a capital offense.

There is enough evidence, picture dropping off the bomb, eye witness who looked him in the eyes and whose legs were blown off, finger prints within stolen SUV that was used in escaping gun battle from police in which his brother was killed, firearm used to shoot at federal and local law enforcement who encircled the boat, ballistic match of that firearm and others to the dead MIT campus policeman, plus whatever can be taken out of places he lived and worked to convict him of murder. Any court any where will convict this guy of murder and terrorist activities, no attorney could get him off.

As such, if convicted in the right jurisdiction he will be legally executed, which is what I want.

Actually, I want more, I want those that supplied him with money and those that financed his “infection” to become a terrorist to be exposed and then prosecuted. I want the who chain of command for the terrorist cell to be exposed.

13 posted on 04/20/2013 1:05:01 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: cripplecreek
Just use this


14 posted on 04/20/2013 1:07:44 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Robert357

And then the “My brother made me do it” defense.. Female jurors begin to cry.. Media agrees. Sniff Sniff.. Life sentence.


15 posted on 04/20/2013 1:09:00 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Robert357

MA law does not allow for capital punishment. Fed law does but he should not be prosecuted that way. This in my opinion is a usurpation of the law which can be used against other individuals and groups.


16 posted on 04/20/2013 1:09:35 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: yoe
I heard Linseed on Fox this morning. He actually made sense (I am sorry Lord, for uttering those words....)
17 posted on 04/20/2013 1:09:48 PM PDT by llevrok (2013: America is in a cold civil war.)
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To: SandRat

Innocent until proven guilty and MA doesn’t allow for death penalty but Fed law does. He did not commit a federal crime and this is a dangerous path.


18 posted on 04/20/2013 1:10:31 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: yoe

This attack came to us via loose immigration policies and this clown wants to make them even looser! Hey McGrahamesty!! The Islamic terrorists are now training to infiltrate in large numbers across our southern border. Do your job and secure the nation! Secure the borders you fickin idiot before many more innocent Americans suffer and die at the hands of Islamic barbarians!!

Continue with your plans to weaken security beyond this point, you are a TRAITOR. And that goes double for your partners in treason, McStain and McRubio!! And your treasonous Gang of Eight Traitors!! And Obama, Reid, Pelosi and all demoncrats and RINOS!!

The day of reckoning will come.


19 posted on 04/20/2013 1:11:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Monorprise

“I disagree, he committed a crime in Massachusetts, they should try him there for the crime. 100+ accounts of assault + 4 accounts of murder.”

The Feds took jurisdiction because here in the People’s Republic we don’t have the death penalty.


20 posted on 04/20/2013 1:12:28 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Monorprise

“There are no grounds...”

Sure there are grounds. What is the point of the oath he just swore last year if he cannot be held accountable to it? He got citizenship under false pretenses, that would be my “grounds” for stripping him of it, and its cloak of protections.

I would agree with you if he was natural born and swore no oath, but that is not the case.


21 posted on 04/20/2013 1:12:32 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: cripplecreek

I s there anyway that his citizenship canbe revoked. Obviously, he lied when taking his oath for citizenship.


22 posted on 04/20/2013 1:13:14 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: yoe
I'm with you Lindsey. After all some, but not all kinds of waterboarding can actually be fun. As noted, there are exceptions. How is the surfing in Cuba? Time to find out.

:)

23 posted on 04/20/2013 1:13:33 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Stormdog

This is illegal. He committed no federal crime (constitution doesn’t allow for it unless he’s being charged with Treason).

That won’t stop them from following the law though which is a shame.

One day they’ll come for us.


24 posted on 04/20/2013 1:13:46 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: cripplecreek
I don’t like it but this one is an American citizen caught on American soil. This only serves to weaken our constitution further.

Agree...too bad there isn't a probationary period for new citizens.

His would certainly be revoked and then....let er rip!

25 posted on 04/20/2013 1:13:54 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Wisconsinlady

“This was probably why the FBI was so quick to read him Miranda Rights last night already;”

Not saying you’re wrong, but from what I’ve read, they did not mirandize the perp


26 posted on 04/20/2013 1:14:32 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

You can’t strip someone retroactively. He was a citizen when he committed the crime. He may lose the citizenship if convicted but that’s irrelevant.


27 posted on 04/20/2013 1:14:55 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Empire - we are thinking the same thing.


28 posted on 04/20/2013 1:15:41 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: JohnPDuncan
He did not commit a federal crime and this is a dangerous path.

I don't know, he did use what could be deemed a WMD against American Citizens, that is definitely a federal issue.

Something to consider....

29 posted on 04/20/2013 1:15:54 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: JohnPDuncan
until proven guilty

He already proved his own guilt. Now lawyers will come in to unscramble it as to try to prove not guilty and they will fail and at a cost to you and you keeping him warm, fuzzy, mat and all. Get caught up - there is more than a 30 sec video.

30 posted on 04/20/2013 1:17:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I take a strict view on this... unless it’s treason...

They will however use some federal law passed by a previous corrupt congress which is wrong and hypocritical for liberals because now they can seek the death penalty in a state that has banned it and is against it


31 posted on 04/20/2013 1:17:15 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: Las Vegas Ron
too bad there isn't a probationary period for new citizens.

That would work for me.
32 posted on 04/20/2013 1:17:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: presently no screen name

If there’s more than the 30 sec video it ought to be presented in court.


33 posted on 04/20/2013 1:18:03 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: yoe

While I approve of the sentiment, this is Grahamnesty and McQueeg we’re talking about. This is damage mitigation for their “Gang of Ocho” plan of amnesty of illegal aliens, nothing more.


34 posted on 04/20/2013 1:18:07 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Stormdog

Do we want Marsha Coakley running the prosecution here? He’ll be back at UMass- Dartmouth within two years if she’s running the show.


35 posted on 04/20/2013 1:18:11 PM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: yoe
I saw a couple of law professors smirking at this "loony" notion on CNN this morning... "He's an American citizen."... "Committed a crime on American soil."... "Not some enemy combatant we picked up on the battlefield in Afghanistan."... yadayadayada (Never mind that these same professors were probably opposed to treating Gitmo prisoners as enemy combatants)...

But I have to ask, what if an enemy army secretly invades America (which is exactly what's happening), stopping by the INS to pick up their citizenship papers on the way to the battlefield? Do we have to Mirandize them, too? Without asking the smirky profs, I'm pretty sure I know what their answer would be.

36 posted on 04/20/2013 1:18:12 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: JohnPDuncan

“What does Graham want to do torture him until he co-operates?

Works for me. Introduce the non American bastard to the waterboard at Gitmo


37 posted on 04/20/2013 1:18:31 PM PDT by Figment
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39 posted on 04/20/2013 1:19:19 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SandRat

I recognize that. Not far from you, is it?


40 posted on 04/20/2013 1:19:42 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Bill Ayers was prosecuted, well attempted any way, under Federal law.

Do you have an issue with that as well?


41 posted on 04/20/2013 1:19:50 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Take a look at this. Look at number 5.

http://www.newcitizen.us/losing.html


42 posted on 04/20/2013 1:19:52 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Lookat mypost 42.

I think he canbe stripped of his citzenship.


43 posted on 04/20/2013 1:20:58 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: yoe

American citizen on American soil. I’m not sure “enemy combatant” has ever been defined to include such. I don’t like the idea of the Obama Administration stretching that definition.


44 posted on 04/20/2013 1:21:05 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Figment

And the reason this is a silly view is because one day the Feds could do this to you.

So you want to allow the administration to disappear and torture mere suspects in America?

That’s pretty much a police state.


45 posted on 04/20/2013 1:21:06 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: Robert357

“plus whatever can be taken out of places he lived and worked to convict him of murder.”

I’ve seen several stories on where he lived, but nothing at all about where either worked. What was the source of their income? There are more involved in this


46 posted on 04/20/2013 1:22:16 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’m a youngen and not familar with the specific of the case but think that the constitution is clear and lists only 4 federal crimes

Everything else should be done under state law in my opinion.


47 posted on 04/20/2013 1:22:26 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: yoe

McCain is the epitome of a political schizophrenic, I can’t predict what will come out of this man’s mouth.


48 posted on 04/20/2013 1:22:37 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Robert357

Is there any provision in the Constitution that says we must wait twelve to fifteen years go serve justice on this subhuman vermin?


49 posted on 04/20/2013 1:23:36 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: yoe

Would the Weathermen, KKK, Unibomber, etc be considered enemy combatants for their bombings as well?


50 posted on 04/20/2013 1:24:17 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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