Skip to comments.Boy Scouts propose lifting ban on openly gay Scouts, but not leaders
Posted on 04/19/2013 12:01:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Also breaking today: This is a proposal that would go from the executive council to the Boy Scouts of America voting members in May, , and if approved, go into effect in January 2014:
The Boy Scouts of America would no longer deny membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation, but would maintain its ban on openly gay adult leaders under a proposal it is considering, the group said Friday…
“If approved, the resolution would mean that ‘no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone.’ The BSA will maintain the current membership policy for all adults,” Boy Scouts public relations director Deron Smith said.
The Boys Scouts have been considering a change in the longstanding policy against allowing openly gay members. In February, the Boy Scouts’ national executive board postponed a vote on lifting its outright ban on openly gay Scouts and troop leaders and ordered a survey of its members on the issue.
The Boy Scouts have been mulling a version of this proposal for a while, but the parameters changed in response to a survey it commissioned of members:
Earlier, the BSA had indicated it might give local Scout units the option of admitting gays as both youth members and adult leaders, or continuing to exclude them
The BSA said Friday it changed course due in part to results of surveys sent out this year to members of the scouting community.
The survey, according to CNN, showed a generational split with older leaders preferring the exclusion policy and younger parents and teenagers favoring lifting the ban. More from ABC on the survey:
Gay-rights groups have demanded a complete lifting of the ban, while some churches and conservative groups want it maintained in its entirety, raising the likelihood that the new proposal will draw continued criticism from both sides.
Indeed, the BSA, in making its announcement, estimated that easing the ban on gay adults could cause widespread defections that cost the organization 100,000 to 350,000 members.
The review, said a BSA statement, “created an outpouring of feedback” from 200,000 respondents, some supporting the exclusion policy and others favoring a change.
“While perspectives and opinions vary significantly, parents, adults in the Scouting community and teens alike tend to agree that youth should not be denied the benefits of Scouting,” the statement said.
“The policy is incoherent,” said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. “The proposal says, in essence, that homosexuality is morally acceptable until a boy turns 18 then, when he comes of age, he’s removed from the Scouts.”
The gays don’t want to be just accepted, they want to be celebrated.
Not so easy.
Once you accept gay youths, it’s not sink or swim.
This will get voted down unless the vote is stacked. The methodology used by the Executive Committee on this is really suspect and the choice of Harris polling is suspect.
Yep and just wait till a “gay scout” gets ejected for inappropriate behavior like making a pass at a fellow scout? I’ve seen this thing in churches where an open “bisexual” girl was allowed to influence another girl. There is absolutely no good reason to allow open homosexuals into scouting because they will not stop till it is transformed.
Applies to all boys fairly.
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
and morally straight.
I agree it is not good. Just better than I feared. To your point being a scout is different than being a leader so I see no problem excluding gays from being leaders. So I don't agree on that one in short term. I do agree with you we may different situation 5 years form now.
I seriously question whether a boy of 10, 12, or younger could know his sexual orientation. Do children really need to be sexualized so young?
If this happens, scouting is over.
All the sudden the BSA will condone the sin of sodomy? If they go through with this garbage, stick a fork in them, they are done. God does not change his views on sin, and you can not be a sodomite and be living your life according to the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
On my honor I will do my best
to do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout law;
to help other people at all times;
to keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight
RE: If this happens, scouting is over.
Not really, someone else will form a more CONSERVATIVE and COURAGEOUS alternative.
More? Maybe. Many? Absolutely not.
Just because the media crow from the rooftops every time they find one doesn't mean there is an epidemic.
My college newspaper tried really hard to make it look like there were mass demonstrations all the time. Except when you happened by a few of these "events" to find the same three idiots actively participating in every one with normal college traffic included to make it look like a mass event.
Part of the left's power is convincing people like you there is even an issue to be considered.
How do "children" end up somehow declaring that they are "gay"? Did someone coach them or coerce them to declare themselves "gay"? How would an 8-14 yr old boy ever recognize that they are gay? Do they start committing sodomy as young minors and if so with whom? Or most likely there are homosexual pedophiles who sexually assult young boys and in the process coerce them to homosexual lifestyle?
I ask these questions, because I think that most stories of "children or early teens" who somehow declare themselves to be "gay" are in fact, coached & coerced to say that. I was in Boy Scouts for 6 years (as well as Cub Scouts) and in fact we all went nude swimming on Boy Scout swim night at the Univ of Wis-Stout swimming pool. The issue of "gay" was never and I mean never considered to be any issue or even recognition of gay. We had multiple overnight camp-outs with not even a hint of homosexual behavior. I think that stories of so-called "gay" children or early teens are in fact a bunch of lies being perpetuated by the adult gays & perverts to make it appear as if being a homo pervert is overwhelmingly widespread.
And from Romans 1:18-32, we know that homosexuality & lesbian lifestyle are unnatural and the lowest form of reprobate, devian behavior & outright rebellion against God.