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Brooklyn: Wild melee erupts as NYPD arrests Muslim teen for allegedly taunting Jewish subway rider
Brooklyn: Wild melee erupts as NYPD arrests Muslim teen for allegedly taunting Jewish subway rider ^ | April 18, 2013 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 04/19/2013 1:23:14 AM PDT by beaversmom

"You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers to be the Jews..." -- Qur'an 5:82

This Qur'anic dictum usually manifests itself as intense animosity on the part of Muslims toward Jews.

"SEE IT: Wild Brooklyn melee erupts as NYPD arrests Muslim teen for allegedly taunting Jewish subway rider," by Shane Dixon Kavanaugh for the New York Daily News, April 18 (thanks to Twostellas):

The attempted arrest of an allegedly hate-mongering teen aboard a Brooklyn subway quickly turned into a wild showdown between cops and a roiled mob, according to sources and video obtained by the Daily News.

The melee began when suspect Stephan Stowe, 17, and a group of eight friends approached a Jewish man wearing a yarmulke aboard a Brooklyn-bound 3 train just before 3 p.m. Monday, police sources said Wednesday.

"Assalamu Alaikum," Stowe said to the man, using a common greeting among Muslims that means, "Peace be with you," court documents allege.

Actually it means "Peace be upon you," which is not quite the same thing.

When the man ignored the greeting, Stowe allegedly became combative.

"You think you're better than me?" the teen allegedly said. "We are cousins."

"No we’re not," The man shot back, and told Stowe to leave him alone.

The suspect then started hurling ethnic slurs and called the man disrespectful, according to court papers.

As the tension aboard the train escalated, the man whipped out his cell phone and took a photo of Stowe, who then snatched the phone and deleted the photo, police sources said.

"I'm going to kill you right now," Stowe said, according to cops and court records. He then swore at the man, according to cops and court records, and in an apparent reference to the Holocaust added, "They should have killed all of you."

The man managed to swipe his phone back from Stowe and ran to alert the conductor, police sources said. As the train pulled into the Eastern Parkway/Brooklyn Museum stop, cops were waiting to collar Stowe, police sources said.

But that's when a mob rose up against the cops....


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: diversity; kenyanbornmuzzie; newyork; newyorkcity; sourcenotarticletitl
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Comment on the thread: "And you wonder why we true Africans don't like the blacks of America! I'm from Ethiopia, 23 yr. old female. Blacks here always ask me why is it that Africans don't like the blacks here. Well i should just save myself the explanation and show them this video. They sicken me! No class, no respect, no work ethic, dysfunctional families, drug addicts, thief's, always looking for trouble etc. And they call them African Americans???? I'm sorry but We true Africans are far from those things that i listed here. I'm sure many can attest to what im saying. if you have met an African you will know they are the hardest working people."
1 posted on 04/19/2013 1:23:14 AM PDT by beaversmom
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wRSBO76YZnc


2 posted on 04/19/2013 1:23:45 AM PDT by beaversmom
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Sometimes I get down on the police, but when I see scenes like this, I think there’s not enough they could pay me to do that job.


3 posted on 04/19/2013 1:24:36 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Democrats destroyed the family unit and the black community was the hardest hit. Without the need to work for a living, a father/husband was no longer needed. With free child care and schools offering breakfast lunch and dinner a mother is no longer needed. Toss in a weak legal system and decline in Church activity you have an entire generation of children with no morals or understanding of what love and family really means.


4 posted on 04/19/2013 1:28:27 AM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: beaversmom

~~~”I’m going to kill you right now,” Stowe said~~~

Does that mean he has retracted the “peace be upon you” thingy from earlier?


5 posted on 04/19/2013 1:31:44 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle
Does that mean he has retracted the “peace be upon you” thingy from earlier?

LOL! Yea, that quickly flew out the window.

6 posted on 04/19/2013 1:32:57 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Looks like a bunch of Obama supporters.


7 posted on 04/19/2013 1:37:21 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: beaversmom

I often wonder how much longer we have to tolerate societies scum,i’ve had about enough.


8 posted on 04/19/2013 1:38:27 AM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Looks like a bunch of Obama supporters.

Ya think so? No Mitt Romney fans in there? ;)

9 posted on 04/19/2013 1:38:38 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: heshtesh
I often wonder how much longer we have to tolerate societies scum,i’ve had about enough.

I hear ya. We stopped by Bent's Old Fort in Southern CO one year and the tour guide told us that if you were out on the trail or wherever and showing your ass and getting on people's nerves, you were a goner. I don't guess I would like to go back to those days, but we've gone too far in the other direction where too much is tolerated.

10 posted on 04/19/2013 1:42:44 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

I wonder why the headline says that the mohammedan was arrested for “taunting” the victim when the perp actually made a death threat.


11 posted on 04/19/2013 1:46:54 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: F15Eagle

i guess he is a true muslim, no problem with killing his ‘cousin’.


12 posted on 04/19/2013 1:49:37 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

unrelated thread but you may be interested

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3009655/posts


13 posted on 04/19/2013 1:52:03 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: heshtesh

Not only do I believe in stand your ground, but I believe if somebody say’s they’re going to kill you, then you should be legal for you to act upon that too.


14 posted on 04/19/2013 1:52:22 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Secret Agent Man

Does that mean he has retracted the “peace be upon you” thingy from earlier?

I think the initial translation was supposed to be: “I’ll pull a piece on you”.


15 posted on 04/19/2013 1:58:02 AM PDT by Sapper26 (Political Refugee From the Obamanation)
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To: beaversmom
Even an inexpensive Mossberg or Hi-Point can put a quick end to most wild melees.
16 posted on 04/19/2013 2:07:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: beaversmom

They are not dealing with humans in that situation. Feral animals is the appropriate turn.


17 posted on 04/19/2013 2:11:27 AM PDT by matt04
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To: beaversmom

New York City, the center of Western Culture!


18 posted on 04/19/2013 2:19:03 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matater of Opinion)
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To: beaversmom

In the old sailing ship days, sailors who couldn’t get along tended to just disappear one dark night. Very mysterious.


19 posted on 04/19/2013 2:27:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Usagi_yo

Totally agree with you! Then you don’t have to waste time looking over your shoulder.


20 posted on 04/19/2013 2:34:01 AM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I was just reading about an incident during sail.
The rule on the ship was no gambling but some did
anyway, two got into a fight and one of them knifed
the other. The captain had the murderer bound to
his victim and then threw them both over board.
Swift justice in those days.


21 posted on 04/19/2013 2:41:29 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: beaversmom

Liberals, for some reason, love the idea of public transportation. The local college regents, who among them don’t drive a car worth less than $60,000, wanted to limit the town’s main east/west road past the university to two lanes. Their stated objective was, “to force everyone to ride the bus.” (One of them quickly added, “It’s for the safety of the children.”) These people commute in their Mercedes from the north. The uproar stopped them. The regents and the development commission did re-do the only other east/west road to just two lanes. Now it’s quaint brick and drivers must dodge exotic planters full of impractical greenery at a maximum 25 mph. If you go 30, assuming there’s an open spot long enough to get up to that speed, you get a ticket.

So, they want us to ride public transport with 30 gang-bangers and other people we wouldn’t let into hour house. BTW, they want us to give up our guns too.


22 posted on 04/19/2013 2:43:59 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: beaversmom
Another comment:

As for the question about American blacks vs. black foreigners or recent black immigrants to the U.S. Here's a key distinction: the descendants of American slaves relatively often -- and understandably -- have a pathological culture. By contrast, black people who immigrate freely to the U.S. from the West Indies, for example, are a very successful group economically -- according to some research they are more successful than the average white family. They get educated, become professionals, and are prosperous. They generally have a reasonable modicum of respect for duly constituted authorities.

Couple points:

The implication is that the pathological culture of many native Americans blacks is the result of the brutality of slavery. What the poster apparently doesn't realize is that West Indies slavery was - much - more brutal than American slavery. To the point that they could not maintain their population and had to constantly import replacements, with 95% of black slaves going to the Caribbean and S. America, only 5% to N. America, where slaves thrived and multiplied, almost uniquely in world history.

Slavery in the Caribbean lasted almost as long, with emancipation in different areas coming from 30 years before ours to over 20 years later. There are good questions to be asked about why the long-term effects of slavery were so different in different parts of the world. Or if a history of slavery really has much to do with it.

Recently worked a project in Grenada, 95%+ black. Several different Grenadians commented on how perception of West Indies blacks in America is driven by Jamaican gangs and thugs. At least according to them, this is a result of widespread adoption of Cuban marxist ideology of hate rich people and whitey in Jamaica. To the point where even native Jamaicans who became rich (by local standards) in USA or Britain can't return to Jamaica without being targeted.

IOW, the West Indies is a big place, with some pretty diverse populations.

23 posted on 04/19/2013 2:51:53 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: beaversmom

Interesting that one of the two initially responding cops was blacks. So this is hardly just a response to brutal white cops.


24 posted on 04/19/2013 2:53:57 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan; SunkenCiv; neverdem

And dramatically different social successes even on the same island: Compare North and South Korea (er, Haiti and Dominican Republic) lifestyles and health and economies and ecologies.


25 posted on 04/19/2013 2:59:02 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: beaversmom

My last boss was Kenyan African and one of the hardest working guys I know.

He was not impressed by American blacks in general. I would not say he ‘hated’ them because this man had no hatred in his body.


26 posted on 04/19/2013 3:05:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: beaversmom

Ironic link in the original story about a Jew attacking an Arab, unprovoked.

The subway incident seems more about aholes than Muslims. I would guess that that phrase he uttered at the beginning is the sum of his knowledge of Islam. Sounds like a future jail dweller.


27 posted on 04/19/2013 3:10:31 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic
The subway incident seems more about aholes than Muslims.

I think you are right.

28 posted on 04/19/2013 3:16:52 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Apparently the definition of “wild melee” has been revised.


29 posted on 04/19/2013 3:27:40 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: F15Eagle

” Peace of the GRAVE be upon you”.
That’s the real translation...


30 posted on 04/19/2013 3:28:48 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: beaversmom

Well said beavermom.
Friend is a black Muslim from Nigeria. Worked as a meat cutter while getting his MBA.
Hard working, neat as a pin and refused any gub mint help.
“When I do it I want the credit, not to give it to some gubmint”.
GOD bless and be proud.


31 posted on 04/19/2013 3:48:07 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: beaversmom

Get ready for big Al.


32 posted on 04/19/2013 3:59:31 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: beaversmom

If Obama had a son, he’d look just like this guy.


33 posted on 04/19/2013 4:14:50 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

“They are not dealing with humans in that situation. Feral animals is the appropriate turn”...

The above quote was made by a black woman of African decent. She is absolutely correct. As seen in the video, the subway tunnel is nothing more that a place for the “human rats” to collect and cause as much trouble as they can. Notice too, very few had “odumbo phones” and just had to video the entire incident hoping for an opportunity to get back at the “whitey” police.

The woman with the big mouth got what she deserved as well, face to the floor and in handcuffs. Good for the cops as they had their hands full for a while. It won’t stop the subway rats from doing their thing anytime soon but it damn sure tells what they are like.


34 posted on 04/19/2013 4:45:44 AM PDT by Progov (I'm for HONEST government)
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To: beaversmom

A couple dozen of the people I’ve worked closely with in my career (IT) are black. I divide them into two groups: regular people who happwn to be vlack and “holder’s people”. That is, those that epitomize the black culture in the US -low work ethic, morals, etc.

It hit me one day that with just one exception, all of those in the former group were not born and raised in the US and all of them in the latter group were.

It’s not race. It’s culture.


35 posted on 04/19/2013 4:57:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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36 posted on 04/19/2013 5:00:23 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Sherman Logan

I bet the cops are going to get some sensitivity training.


37 posted on 04/19/2013 5:01:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: beaversmom

Wild animals! I am so glad I do not live in the jungle.


38 posted on 04/19/2013 5:03:37 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: LukeL

Exactomundo!!!!!


39 posted on 04/19/2013 5:04:11 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: beaversmom

Definitely time to get a swivel head, check your perimeter, your 6 o clock, profile all people you have to cross course with with known facts of how to spot a Muslim.

There “may” be truly innocent peaceful Muslims.

I say “may” sardonically if nothing else, for now I am treating ALL Muslims as a walking potential to explode like an old container of nitroglycerin.


40 posted on 04/19/2013 5:05:42 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: beaversmom

Uh, Zimbabwe & South Africa, just to name 2 obvious examples, are not exactly models of civilization.


41 posted on 04/19/2013 5:08:18 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: beaversmom
No class, no respect, no work ethic, dysfunctional families, drug addicts, thief's, always looking for trouble etc.

She summed it up pretty accurately there.

42 posted on 04/19/2013 5:10:27 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq He could sure play that axe. RIP anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: beaversmom
comment you posted: I'm from Ethiopia, 23 yr. old female. Blacks here always ask me why is it that Africans don't like the blacks here. Well i should just save myself the explanation and show them this video. They sicken me! No class, no respect, no work ethic, dysfunctional families, drug addicts, thief's, always looking for trouble etc. And they call them African Americans???? I'm sorry but We true Africans are far from those things that i listed here. I'm sure many can attest to what im saying. if you have met an African you will know they are the hardest working people."

very true

43 posted on 04/19/2013 5:12:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Mr. K

“My last boss was Kenyan African and one of the hardest working guys I know.”

Its not the color, its the culture.


44 posted on 04/19/2013 5:14:52 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Cronos

Negativity and blame creates ideal conditions for dysfunction.


45 posted on 04/19/2013 5:20:02 AM PDT by alrea
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To: beaversmom
Sometimes I get down on the police, but when I see scenes like this, I think there’s not enough they could pay me to do that job.
C'mon, a pizza delivery man's job is more dangerous than a cop's.
Just ask any cop-hater here on FR.
46 posted on 04/19/2013 5:24:41 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: beaversmom
Video courtesy of Obamafoam!
47 posted on 04/19/2013 6:09:38 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Spartan302
There “may” be truly innocent peaceful Muslims.

There's another name for them; they're called apostates.

48 posted on 04/19/2013 7:50:32 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: beaversmom

I hope those involved in the alleged melee were charged with obstruction of justice or something similar.


49 posted on 04/19/2013 8:25:03 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: F15Eagle

It does not even mean “peace” be upon you.

It means “submission to Islam be upon you.”


50 posted on 04/19/2013 8:25:41 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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