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Homemade guns: an exercise of liberty, or simply dangerous?
The Lamron ^ | 18 April, 2013 | Paul Michael

Posted on 04/18/2013 3:53:07 PM PDT by marktwain

Prompted by the horrific Sandy Hook shooting last December, lawmakers across the country are locked in debate over the future of gun control in America. While they fight in Washington over background checks, there has been a technological revolution brewing. In the face of increased gun control, several groups have taken the initiative to manufacture guns via 3D printers.

A homemade gun sounds revolutionary to most, but it’s perfectly legal so long as it meets federal and state restrictions on gun ownership. That said, $30 and a simple YouTube tutorial can land you a homemade ‘shotgun.’ For the more aesthetically minded, gun parts can be bought separately and modified at home to produce a fully functional AR-15. Homemade guns don’t require any sort of federal licensing or registration so long as you don’t plan to sell them.

The “Wiki Weapon” project began last June with the public reveal of Defense Distributed, the goal being to design gun parts that can be accessed and produced by anyone with a 3D printer. There are still several hurdles in the way of Defense Distributed’s goal, however. First and foremost is the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988, which bans the production and ownership of guns that can go unnoticed through metal detectors.

The law is set to expire this December unless lawmakers should choose to renew it, and with the current state of the gun control debate it doesn’t seem all too unlikely. The current cost of 3D printers is another concern with some of the cheapest models still pricing well over $900. Most concerning, however, is the overall quality of these guns. The materials used by 3D printers are hardly as durable as metallic parts already on the market.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 3dprinter; banglist; codywilson; defensedistributed; guncontrol; secondamendment
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To: Repeal The 17th
Wasn’t there some where in Texas you could go and make your own personal lower receiver?

IIRC, there's a TechShop near Austin now. That's a membership-only place, though, but they do advertise having a 4-axis CNC mill.

There might be a policy against gun work there, too - you should probably check. It might be cheaper to buy an "80%" receiver and the required drill jigs and other related bits and tools, and a cheap tabletop milling machine from Harbor Freight.

21 posted on 04/18/2013 4:49:49 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

Thanks!


22 posted on 04/18/2013 5:09:29 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

You can order an 80% complete lower and then finish it yourself with a bench top drill press and a jig.


23 posted on 04/18/2013 5:10:25 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Hodar

Or

Print the lower in wax and use the lost wax casting method

or

buy an 80% lower and finish yourself

or

download the plans for the “lego lower”, mill out the plates and assemble


24 posted on 04/18/2013 5:12:40 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: andyk
I’d like to see a gun shop rent out a 3-D printer.
I wonder if one can go to Kinko’s yet and print a gun.

Will not happen. Imagine the liability lawsuits when poorly made guns blow up in the operator's face. Gun shops don't need the lawsuits. And printer companies will cringe if their printers are purposed solely for gun making. However, one can use a 3-D printer to make a home-built 3-D printer, getting around limitations on renting it! (Easier just to get a real gun.)

25 posted on 04/18/2013 5:13:54 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: taxcontrol

Thanks!


26 posted on 04/18/2013 5:14:03 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: marktwain
Another reason why outlawing guns will not make anyone safer.
If people are to own guns, they should be of good quality, so they will be effective and safe to the user and innocent bystanders.

27 posted on 04/18/2013 5:23:37 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Quickgun
“I'd have to add the FN-FAL. It’s reliable, powerful, hi-cap.”

Love them. If the lower were the legal receiver like the AR making upper changes cheaper it would be about perfect. A heavy barrel model in .243 with a big scope would be a coyotes nightmare.

28 posted on 04/18/2013 5:24:51 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Quickgun

P.S. Notice as the AR improves it gets more like the FN FAL? (piston action etc.)


29 posted on 04/18/2013 5:27:28 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: marktwain

This technology only enables one to acquire something more effective.


30 posted on 04/18/2013 5:57:12 PM PDT by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: Hodar

“Now, make some really nearly perfect castings of the AR-15 lowers using some nice quality steel from bumpers, leaf springs and scrap metal from a local junk yard.”

Ummmm...

Casting aluminum is fairly easy. Casting steel is a whole ‘nuther matter!

“Nearly perfect” doesn’t quite get it. You must get the tolerances correct. You need to allow for shrinkage when 3D printing your mold, etc.

Even if you do make a good lower receiver, the barrel, upper receiver and bolt are critical and difficult to make.

http://www.lasc.us/RangingShotBarrelMakingFeature.htm

Making a home made single shot smooth bore to fire a rifle cartridge is not too difficult. Making a home made AR-15/M-16 is quite different.


31 posted on 04/18/2013 5:57:33 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Hodar

i still don’t know anyone who wants to get shot by a .22.


32 posted on 04/18/2013 5:58:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: jeffc

maybe the stock, but there were standard arms makers and making the metal parts most people couldn’t do on their own.


33 posted on 04/18/2013 6:00:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: BigBlockk

Really? I saw my first one in SDak at a small town sporting goods store the first year of my college career. I remember seeing it for $79 and thought “What a rip off ... cheap plastic magazine won’t last 30 minutes”. That was 1980.

That Ruger was really introduced 15 years earlier!?

It’s perhaps the most customizable rifle ever made!! Still kicking myself for not buying one then.


34 posted on 04/18/2013 6:21:26 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: null and void
You're wrong.

Wouldn't be the first time, promise it won't be the last.

I was reading that the earlier generations were concerned about the material being contaminated and not dispensing through the printheads if recycled - causing the printheads to clog.

Guess they fixed that problem.

35 posted on 04/18/2013 6:24:16 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Monorprise

Hey, that file on your flash drive is a felony.

It’s coming.....at least they will try. Total control is all they are after.

F em all.


36 posted on 04/18/2013 6:24:51 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Good luck identified the file.

Encrypt your drives using software like truecrypt.

http://www.truecrypt.org/

If you do it right there will be no way for them to know what it is you have, not that it is any of their business.


37 posted on 04/18/2013 6:28:22 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Secret Agent Man
maybe the stock, but there were standard arms makers and making the metal parts most people couldn’t do on their own.

Well yeah, but most people bought the parts (like from blacksmiths, etc.) and assembled their own weapons.

38 posted on 04/18/2013 6:31:48 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc

yeah, they all needed them for defense of one kind or another.


39 posted on 04/18/2013 7:05:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Hodar

Steel for an AR lower? Something new every day.


40 posted on 04/18/2013 7:12:16 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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