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President Obama Delivers Remarks on Gun Control (5:30 PM ET, Live Thread)
cspan ^ | April 17, 2013 | Obama

Posted on 04/17/2013 2:27:29 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Red Steel

I watched it. That was pretty gloat-worthy. The stern faces, the lips bitten...Made me feel pretty good. Watching the CNN babe after was priceless.


151 posted on 04/17/2013 2:59:21 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: VerySadAmerican
The families volunteered. They should be ashamed.

I'll save my judgment for when I've walked a mile in their shoes. Until then, I can't say with 100% certainty how susceptible I'd be in my hour of grief.

If the republicans had a guts, and intelligence, they’d have their own press conference with parents from Newtown who were against this legislation. If, if, if, if....

I don't know. That could just as easily be perceived as opportunism, especially if it comes across as responding to those on the other side, mentioned above.

152 posted on 04/17/2013 2:59:49 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: BlatherNaut

I don’t think I have ever seen such an incredible display of Narcissistic Personality Disorder as I have just witnessed in his rant.


153 posted on 04/17/2013 2:59:51 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: matt04

Thanks! BTTT..


154 posted on 04/17/2013 2:59:59 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Red Steel

Common sense gun control is an oxymoron.

Because to exercise “gun control” in the manner which seems to be preferred by the Current Regime, is to effectively criminalize the very possession of any kind of weapon capable of discharging a high-velocity projectile of any kind.

And that just isn’t common sense when the principle of self-defense in the very critical moments after first being assaulted is not allowed to come into play. Theoretically, an individual well-practiced in martial arts COULD disarm and overcome even a well-armed adversary, if the adversary is the least bit clumsy or unsure in asserting the initial advantage. But trading aimed projectiles at 1,400 fps kind of equalizes the confrontation.

Especially when the assailant does not realize the victim is armed.


155 posted on 04/17/2013 3:00:02 PM PDT by alloysteel (Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new.)
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To: Sender
LOL, talking head anchor on channel 5 Boston just said that “the president’s gun legislation was defeated by a majority of Americans”,

I heard that too....and agreed!
156 posted on 04/17/2013 3:00:25 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: BinaryBoy

You watch. 0bama will empty the buildings around the marathon finish line and speak from the area now cordoned off, next to blood stains.


157 posted on 04/17/2013 3:00:43 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Raebie
Oh my. Chrissy Matthews is gonna stroke out.

Hyperventilating.

158 posted on 04/17/2013 3:00:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Obama was introduced by one of the professional victim fathers from Sandy Hook.


159 posted on 04/17/2013 3:00:55 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

Thanks!! I’m on my cell so I’ll bookmark it for later.


160 posted on 04/17/2013 3:00:57 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: newgeezer

At this point in our history, given the cabal of usurping traitors in DC, the most important place those words can be etched is in the heart, mind, and WILL of everyone who still believes in what our Founders were inspired by God to create here.


161 posted on 04/17/2013 3:00:58 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Red Steel

Mommy need to change your diaper, dear leader?


162 posted on 04/17/2013 3:01:26 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: RedWhiteBlue

I agree. I’m glad he doesn’t have any satanic superpowers, that we know about. He would be using them.


163 posted on 04/17/2013 3:01:30 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Rio
pResident Kim Jung Obama making threats!

Now that's funny. But even the original isn't that petulant.

Put some ice on it, Zippy.

164 posted on 04/17/2013 3:01:41 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Blue Highway
Mark Kelly has proven he is a buffoon on multiple occasions
165 posted on 04/17/2013 3:01:50 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Red Steel
(Totally off topic)

Has anyone seen Napolitano in front of tv recently?

and Why? Is she pouring through the Gang of Eight bill in order to testify?

Shouldn't she be doing her job, (re: Boston bombing, ricin letters or suspicious packages), giving public statements?

166 posted on 04/17/2013 3:02:18 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: matt04
Waaahhh. Waaaaaahhh. Wahhhhhhh. Somebody needs a nap.

He is pissed.


Hey, give 0dumb0 a break! After all, this is his first day back at work this week, and he's been hard at it since 10:30 am (not including his 1 1/2 hour lunch).

"Being poser is sure hard work!" sighs 0dumb0. "Whew 6 pm is finally here! Quitting time AND it's hump day!"

167 posted on 04/17/2013 3:02:23 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Red Steel

He made reference to politicians who are worried about re=elections and what their constituents say rather than doing what is right. Is he threatening not only congress but we the people?

The constitution means nothing to this little tyrant, and infringement is just a word he loves to ignore. Nixon was impeached for less!


168 posted on 04/17/2013 3:02:28 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: matt04

Normally I can’t watch him. However he is in full meltdown now and it is worth it.


I should have watched, after all.

Thanks.


169 posted on 04/17/2013 3:02:54 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

No response after a period of time from NICS, and the sale goes through. Holder and Zero would really be shooting themselves in the foot.


170 posted on 04/17/2013 3:03:10 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: newgeezer

Had I been a parent of someone at Sandy Hook, I’d have driven through barricades and crashed through to the front door, rather than standing by, wringing my hands, while people all dolled up in gear walked around.


171 posted on 04/17/2013 3:03:17 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I know he’s a city boy but surely he can tell when the barn door is ajar and the horses have bolted?


172 posted on 04/17/2013 3:03:21 PM PDT by relictele
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To: BlatherNaut
"Oh my. He is pissed. Lol. >P? His tone is quite petulant. So unpresidential. Apparently he's not capable of hiding his emotions."

The beauty of this is that it is all his own fault it did not pass. Everyone understood, everyone said, if you are going to pass this, it has to be fast, before reason and reflection set in. It has to be done before the public has time to *think* about it.

If President Obama had skipped a few rounds of golf, and a vacation or two, he could have done it. He was just too lazy. Thank God he does not have the energy and will of a Hitler or Lenin or Mao.

173 posted on 04/17/2013 3:03:35 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: BlatherNaut; All
"Oh my. He is pissed. Lol. >P? His tone is quite petulant. So unpresidential. Apparently he's not capable of hiding his emotions."

The beauty of this is that it is all his own fault it did not pass. Everyone understood, everyone said, if you are going to pass this, it has to be fast, before reason and reflection set in. It has to be done before the public has time to *think* about it.

If President Obama had skipped a few rounds of golf, and a vacation or two, he could have done it. He was just too lazy. Thank God he does not have the energy and will of a Hitler or Lenin or Mao.

174 posted on 04/17/2013 3:03:45 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: CityCenter

John McCain


175 posted on 04/17/2013 3:03:58 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Stentor

If Manchin didn’t have so little opposition he might have some music to face.


176 posted on 04/17/2013 3:04:25 PM PDT by relictele
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To: Red Steel

The Blumenthal mag capacity ban Amendment is up. About to go down too. :-)


177 posted on 04/17/2013 3:04:27 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Texas Fossil
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My humble wish for our Glorious Leader!

178 posted on 04/17/2013 3:04:34 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Demarica: Land of the need, home of the slave!)
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To: EEGator
Is he a reptilian?

The moral equivalent at the least. (Icke's bonkers)

179 posted on 04/17/2013 3:05:07 PM PDT by Stentor ("the 3 stooges are in charge of monetary policy and sammy davis is president, WTF?" ZH)
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To: RWB Patriot
Princess Binky needs a nap.

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180 posted on 04/17/2013 3:06:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It’s PRIMARY TIME!

Someone needs to step forward.

181 posted on 04/17/2013 3:06:59 PM PDT by Stentor ("the 3 stooges are in charge of monetary policy and sammy davis is president, WTF?" ZH)
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To: Lockbar

Wonder if he will invite Larry Sinclair to come over tonight. O-hole needs some comfort.


L S is long gone. Reggie Love is his current flame.


182 posted on 04/17/2013 3:07:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Red Steel

I think I’ll go buy a gun from a total stranger this weekend.


183 posted on 04/17/2013 3:08:00 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“He asked if the “gun violence victims” should not have a say in gun control. NO! RIGHTS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO POPULAR VOTE OR THE WHIMS OF THE PUBLIC.”
__________________________________________

I wonder if victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens should have a say on immigration? Wouldn’t it go both ways? I can’t stand these politicians.


184 posted on 04/17/2013 3:08:18 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: laplata

CSPAN Archive of the speech

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3009049/posts?page=142#142


185 posted on 04/17/2013 3:08:19 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Red Steel

FYI...on the NY Safe Act

Albany Police Officers Union, local 2841, “We respectfully demand that you do the right thing and repeal the law.”

The letter:

To: Andrew M. Cuomo / Dean G. Skelos / Neil D. Breslin / John T- McDonald III / Phil Steck / Sheldon Silver / Jeffrey D. Klein / Cecilia Tkaczyk / Patricia Fahy Note; see the formal list of people this letter went to at the bottom.

April 15,2013

Honorable Ladies and Gentlemen:

The Albany Police Officers Union condemns and opposes the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act (the SAFE Act) Substantively, we believe that it violates fundamental constitutional rights, that it is unduly and purposely burdensome on law-abiding citizens, and” that it will not deter criminals or menially ill individuals from plotting and carrying out bloodshed and violence. Procedurally, we believe that the way in which the bill was rammed into law via an unjustified and expedient “message of necessity”, which circumvents the right and the ability of the citizens of this State to voice their concerns about the bill and have them addressed, is an outrage. This flawed law’ and the w ay in which it was rushed and passed., shows the apparent contempt that those who govern have for the governed, and. calls into question whether we truly have a representational government. Morally, we believe that this law is about ideology and politics and not about making anyone any safer. We respectfully demand that you do the right thing and repeal the law.

First, while we applaud and support your overall concern for public safety and your desire to improve it. The SAFE Act will not improve public safety. Criminals and the mentally ill will not abide by it, and it is either foolish or dishonest to think or suggest otherwise. While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law and not load a ten-round magazine with more than seven rounds, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence not load ten rounds into a ten-round magazine? While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law that previously legal thirty-round magazines must be sold within one-year to an out-of-state resident or turn in to local authorities, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to sell or turn in his thirty-round magazines? While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law requiring that they register weapons which they already do and which have been deemed “assault weapons”, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to do so? Do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to be concerned about any increase in penalties for shooting first responders? Do you really expect that a mentally ill individual who owns firearms and who is intent on doing violence will voice his intentions to his or her mental health professional and thus put into motion the confiscation of his or her firearms? Do you-really expect that a mentally ill individual will “safely store” his firearms? Of course you don’t. Again, only law-abiding citizens, who are not intent on doing violence, will abide the NY SAFE Act criminals and the mentally ill who are intent on doing violence will not do so. The public will not be any safer under this 1aw. What then, have you accomplished?

Second., the SAFE Act carries with it unfair burdens on law abiding citizen. What is the point of making law-abiding citizens register their previously lawfully owned and lawfully used firearms which are now deemed to be “assault weapons”? What is the point of making law-abiding citizens who affirmatively “opt into” protection from public identification that they hold permits or own firearms? What is the point of making law-abiding citizens renew their pistol permits or “assault weapon” registrations every five years? Why are you preemptively punishing those who have done nothing wrong?

Third, -we fully believe that the SAFE ACT broad prohibitions against will not. withstand constitutional challenge and scrutiny. The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides and U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld the right of individuals to possess and carry firearms and to use them for lawful purposes. The SAFE Act, however, infringes on that right as it bans the possession and use of certain firearms that were heretofore possessed and” used lawfully for the defense of life, liberty, and property, and as it bans the possession and use of certain firearms that were heretofore possessed and used lawfully for safe use of firearms recreation, hunting, and shooting.

We as police officers are on the front lines of public safety. Respectfully, none of you are. We see, feel, work, and live with the effects of gun violence in ways that you cannot. We believe that you see gun violence as a means to move your agenda and your ambitions forward. You know that the SAFE Act will not work in the way that you pretend it will. You know that this shameful SAFE Act was about ideology and politics and not about making anyone safer.

Regarding the reduction in violent crime this new legislation is proposed to have, in 2011 the most current year for which FBI crime statistics are available, New York State had 77l homicides, 445 were committed with a firearm, 394 of that 445 were committed with a handgun, 5 were committed with a rifle, 16 were committed with a shotgun, in 30 the firearm type was unknown, 160 were committed with a cutting instrument, 143 were committed with another type of weapon, and 26 were committed with bare hands. We believe based on these statistics, that the SAFE Act will do nothing to reduce violent crime as the primary target of the legislation is the “assault rifle” which would be included statistically with standard rifles and used in less than 1% of New York homicides in 2011.These so called “Assault Weapons” were not used in the commission of one reported crime in Albany County in 2011.

For the reasons set forth above, the Albany Police Union believes that the SAFE Act is wrong - substantively, procedurally, and morally. The SAFE Act infringes on the rights of law-abiding citizens, it will burden and negatively impact firearms ownership by law-abiding citizens and will not affect the willingness of criminals or those who are mentally ill from perpetrating violence. Again, we respectfully demand that each and all of you do the right thing and repeal the law. Very truly yours,

Thomas Mahar: President Albany Police Officers Union, local 2841 Council 82, AFSCME, AFI-CIO


186 posted on 04/17/2013 3:08:42 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Stentor

Oh, I know. He makes Alex Jones seem normal.


187 posted on 04/17/2013 3:08:52 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Quickgun
No response after a period of time from NICS, and the sale goes through.

Yes, that is the rule, but if it isn't the law then that can be EO'ed away too. I really don't know. It could be in he enabling legislation, so "freezing" NICS would have the opposite of the desired effect.

188 posted on 04/17/2013 3:09:03 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Lockbar

He just came out last week, I think, against tailpipe pollution, so he’d look bad if Larry came over....


189 posted on 04/17/2013 3:09:07 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: frogjerk
“Guns capable of shooting a hundred bullets at a time”

He actually said that? Or, rather, he actually read that from the teleprompter?

190 posted on 04/17/2013 3:09:33 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: All

Someone needs to do a side by side of Nero’s rant today and one of Hitler’s. Same facial expressions and tones.


191 posted on 04/17/2013 3:09:36 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It’s PRIMARY TIME!

Yep. Every single Republican that voted for this abomination should be primaried.

Any vote for this tyrannical bill should NEVER be forgotten.

192 posted on 04/17/2013 3:10:17 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Stentor; EEGator
Is he a reptilian?

Yes, he's been known to become a snake now and then...


193 posted on 04/17/2013 3:10:39 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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To: KC_Lion

Sarah Palin’s gun? Looks like a 12 gauge pump shotgun with a fold up stock and pistol grip? Is that correct? I’ve never seen that!


194 posted on 04/17/2013 3:10:56 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: VRWCarea51

The gun grabber’s amendments were “abridged too far”


195 posted on 04/17/2013 3:11:21 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Mashood

Let’s see, his budget is DOA; Immigration is hanging on a thread and his gun control ideas, which he personally backed, is down at which point he throws a virtual hissy fit on national TV (assuming he was not just playing up to the cameras). A few more little pricks into his ego and the bastard will go down howling. We need to keep up the pressure, keep proding, make him look as small as he is (the new info surfacing on Bengazi may just be the fuse). Captain Quig will be counting strawberries in the white house mess.


196 posted on 04/17/2013 3:11:45 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: matt04

Wow, he had what we southerners call a “hissy fit”! I too cannot stand him, but this was worth the watch.


197 posted on 04/17/2013 3:12:52 PM PDT by freeperkiki
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To: rcrngroup

198 posted on 04/17/2013 3:13:17 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Irenic

Touche!


199 posted on 04/17/2013 3:13:19 PM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: Mouton

And don’t forget he’s being totally played by that NorK punk.


200 posted on 04/17/2013 3:13:34 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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