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Expanded gun background check [Toomey] amendment fails in the Senate
Yahoo ^ | 04/17/13

Posted on 04/17/2013 1:32:17 PM PDT by AtlasStalled

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To: Gator113; corlorde

As corlorde wrote, ‘technically yes’, but be aware that out behind the US Capitol building there’s an enormous junkyard full of rusty old Senate bills that died on the floor.


101 posted on 04/17/2013 2:21:34 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Bury the damn liberal traitors!!!


102 posted on 04/17/2013 2:22:15 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: DBrow
Text of the amendments is separate. I find 113th Congress by day to be a convenient starting place. Some of the amendments were filed yesterday, others were filed Friday.
103 posted on 04/17/2013 2:22:37 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: AtlasStalled
What's the matter Chrissy?...Got to much bleach in your tidy whities? LMAO!
104 posted on 04/17/2013 2:25:01 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AtlasStalled

Diane Fienstein’s AWB amendment is being voted on right now!


105 posted on 04/17/2013 2:25:11 PM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: TexasRedeye

Each cloture vote only covers one item. The reason all these amendments are being held to 60 votes for passage is to avoid going through cloture for each amendment. That same “option,” either 60 votes straight up, or go through cloture, attaches to final passage of EACH amendment, and final passage of whatever bill remains after amendment.


106 posted on 04/17/2013 2:25:58 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Hear, Hear......

God Save The Republic....


107 posted on 04/17/2013 2:26:23 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: redgolum
Still, what happens now?

In baseball terms, because Reid used that procedural trick of switching his vote to "no" the bill sits in the on-deck circle until an opportunity arises to bring it back to a floor vote.

That opportunity will come the next time there's a mass shooting. And there WILL be a next time.

Under such circumstances the bill can pretty much be brought back up for an immediate vote. There won't be ~4 months or so for public opinion to settle and to allow cooler heads to prevail. It'll be rammed through quickly (if this vote were taken right after Newtown the three Dems would have stayed with their party and there would have been several GOP crossovers), then dumped on the House.
108 posted on 04/17/2013 2:26:56 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: AtlasStalled

There have to be pictures of Toomey and Menendez wearing striped boxer shorts and socks with garters in the same room with naked 12 year old Dominican girls. What else could explain such a massive betrayal of Pennsylvania gun owners.


109 posted on 04/17/2013 2:27:32 PM PDT by Stentor ("the 3 stooges are in charge of monetary policy and sammy davis is president, WTF?" ZH)
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To: Hardraade
Cool. What will be Zero’s workaround?

Awaken another sleeper cell. Shoot up a pre-school.

110 posted on 04/17/2013 2:28:34 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Cboldt

My question still remains. If NO amendments are agreed upon to change the original bill (which has already passed cloture) is only 51 votes then needed to pass an unamended bill?


111 posted on 04/17/2013 2:28:48 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Thanks for the reminder.

Today day is a day that it is okay too slap me. Like many, I have been a nervous wreck over all of this.


112 posted on 04/17/2013 2:29:07 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: AtlasStalled

It is not much to celebrate when the votes were as close as they were.


113 posted on 04/17/2013 2:29:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: 11th_VA
On to Chick-Fil-A to celebrate !

There's an idea...I wish I had one nearby.

114 posted on 04/17/2013 2:29:30 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: tanknetter
"It'll be rammed through quickly (if this vote were taken right after Newtown the three Dems would have stayed with their party and there would have been several GOP crossovers), then dumped on the House."

Interesting isn't it? The senate was designed as a cool, detached deliberative body with six year terms to prevent rash, momentary waves of public sentiment from being adopted as law, and to temper the house which was somewhat expected to be responsive to inflamed passions.

In practice, it has come to work in reverse. I blame the 17th Amendment (among other things).

115 posted on 04/17/2013 2:31:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Rusty0604

Correct and that legislative manuever needs to be widely broadcast throughout Nevada.


116 posted on 04/17/2013 2:32:39 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: TexasRedeye
The answer to your question is no.

Each vote in the Senate can be subjected to cloture, and a vote on the bill, even if unamended, is a vote. Every vote. Vote on the amendment, cloture, Vote on the final bill, cloture.

117 posted on 04/17/2013 2:35:17 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: laplata
Yes, I had heard that but thank you for telling me anyway. I'm so glad that you folks up in LaPlata County are on top of this. With four recalls in the works, I hope and pray that we take down at least a couple sleazy Senators for now and clean out the rest next election.
118 posted on 04/17/2013 2:35:36 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: 1010RD

Your’e right; election time he will trot out his voting record and people won’t know the difference.


119 posted on 04/17/2013 2:37:14 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: TexasRedeye
-- the original bill (which has already passed cloture) --

Not exactly. What got past cloture was a motion to take the bill up for consideration. So, the bill is up for consideration, and being voted on. I don;t know of any suggestion to vote on final passage of the underlying bill, but when that suggestion comes up, it is an opportunity for objection, and another cloture vote.

120 posted on 04/17/2013 2:37:27 PM PDT by Cboldt
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