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Is The Takedown Of Gold A Sign That The Entire Global Financial System Is About To Crash?
TEC ^ | 4-17-2013 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 04/17/2013 7:56:19 AM PDT by blam

Is The Takedown Of Gold A Sign That The Entire Global Financial System Is About To Crash?

By Michael Snyder
April 15th, 2013

Somebody out there is sure getting prepared for something really big. We have just witnessed a takedown of gold and silver unlike anything that we have witnessed in decades. On Monday, the price of gold had fallen by more than 10 percent at one point. It shocked investors all over the globe, and overall what we have just seen was the largest two day decline in the price of gold in 30 years. The price of silver dropped even more rapidly on Monday. It was down more than 14 percent at one point. There was an atmosphere of "panic selling" as investors and financial institutions raced to liquidate their holdings of silver and gold. But was this exactly what someone out there wanted? As I wrote about the other day, big banks and news outlets all over the world have been boldly proclaiming for weeks that gold is entering a "bear market" and that now is the time for all of us to sell our gold. In particular, Goldman Sachs reportedly told their clients earlier this month that they "recommend initiating a short COMEX gold position". Was that just a "good guess" on their part, or was something else going on? Were they actually trying to help create a "selling frenzy" that would drive the price of gold much lower?

What we witnessed on Monday was absolutely jaw-dropping. Just check out this chart of the price of gold over the past 10 years. The takedown of gold on Monday sticks out like a sore thumb...

And that chart does not even show the full extent of the collapse. As I write this, the price of gold is sitting at $1355.20.

But this is just the beginning for gold and silver. As I have warned repeatedly, the price of gold and the price of silver will experience wild swings in the years ahead.

For example, the following is what I wrote about gold and silver on August 7th, 2012...

I like precious metals myself, but if you are going to invest you need to get educated so that you know what you are doing. If you go in blindly you are likely to get burned at some point.

In addition, you need to be prepared for wild fluctuations in price over the coming years. There will be times when gold and silver absolutely soar and there will be times when they drop like a rock.

So if you are going to play the game you need to be able to handle the ride.

Monday was an example of what I meant when I said that "you need to be able to handle the ride". There are going to be a lot more days like Monday (both up and down) for gold and silver in the years ahead.

The foolish people are those that are scared out of their wits and that are selling off all of their gold and silver right now.

Sadly, there was reportedly a tremendous amount of panic selling of gold and silver during this collapse. The following is what Dennis Gartman told CNBC on Monday...

"There are a lot of people throwing up their hands. Throwing positions overboard. Panic is everywhere," Gartman said in a "Squawk Box" interview on Monday. "I've never seen anything like this. I mean it."

It just shows that there are a lot of stupid people out there. The following is an excerpt from another CNBC report about the panic selling that was happening on Monday...

"I think the last $20 has been margin selling. The market is falling like a knife. People are saying, 'Get me out now,' " Phoenix Futures President Kevin Grady said. "You're also seeing people selling energy profits to pay for metals losses. You're seeing a tremendous amount of gold liquidation today."

According to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Ronald Reagan, all of this panic selling is the result of an orchestrated takedown of gold and silver...

This is an orchestration (the smash in gold). It’s been going on now from the beginning of April. Brokerage houses told their individual clients the word was out that hedge funds and institutional investors were going to be dumping gold and that they should get out in advance.

Then, a couple of days ago, Goldman Sachs announced there would be further departures from gold. So what they are trying to do is scare the individual investor out of bullion. Clearly there is something desperate going on...

So who is behind all of this orchestration? Well, according to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, it is actually the Federal Reserve...

The Federal Reserve began its April Fool’s assault on gold by sending the word to brokerage houses, which quickly went out to clients, that hedge funds and other large investors were going to unload their gold positions and that clients should get out of the precious metal market prior to these sales. As this inside information was the government’s own strategy, individuals cannot be prosecuted for acting on it. By this operation, the Federal Reserve, a totally corrupt entity, was able to combine individual flight with institutional flight. Bullion prices took a big hit, and bullishness departed from the gold and silver markets. The flow of dollars into bullion, which threatened to become a torrent, was stopped.

In fact, Dr. Roberts says that former Goldman Sachs trader Andrew Maguire is reporting that the Fed orchestrated the dumping of 500 tons of naked gold shorts into the market on Friday...

According to Andrew Maguire, on Friday, April 12, the Fed’s agents hit the market with 500 tons of naked shorts. Normally, a short is when an investor thinks the price of a stock or commodity is going to fall. He wants to sell the item in advance of the fall, pocket the money, and then buy the item back after it falls in price, thus making money on the short sale. If he doesn’t have the item, he borrows it from someone who does, putting up cash collateral equal to the current market price. Then he sells the item, waits for it to fall in price, buys it back at the lower price and returns it to the owner who returns his collateral. If enough shorts are sold, the result can be to drive down the market price.

As Dr. Roberts noted, this represents an absolutely massive amount of gold...

Consider the 500 tons of paper gold sold on Friday. Begin with the question, how many ounces is 500 tons? There are 2,000 pounds to one ton. 500 tons equal 1,000,000 pounds. There are 16 ounces to one pound, which comes to 16 million ounces of short sales on Friday.

Who has 16 million ounces of gold? At the beginning gold price that day of about $1,550, that comes to $24,800,000,000. Who has that kind of money?

If any of the allegations above are even remotely true, then a whole lot of people need to be criminally investigated.

Meanwhile, many are considering this takedown of gold to be an ominous sign that another major financial crisis may be heading our way.

Just remember what happened back in 2008. As Zero Hedge noted on Monday, the price of gold suddenly plunged 21 percent in July 2008. That was just a couple of months before the U.S. stock market crashed in the fall...

The rapidity of gold's drop is impressive, concerning, and disorderly. We have seen two other such instances of disorderly 'hurried' selling in the last five years. In July 2008, gold quickly dropped 21% - seemingly pre-empting the Lehman debacle and the collapse of the western banking system.

Is this collapse in the price of gold a harbinger of another major stock market crash?

Time will tell.

Meanwhile, many average Americans are wondering if they should dump their gold and silver while they still can.

As I mentioned above, gold and silver are going to experience wild fluctuations over the next few years. When the next stock market crash comes, gold and silver are probably going to go even lower than they are today for a short time. But in the long run gold and silver are going to soar to unprecedented heights.

Investing in gold and silver is not for the faint of heart. If you cannot handle the ride, you should sit on the sidelines. We are entering a period of tremendous financial instability, and holding gold and silver is going to be like riding a roller coaster. The ups and downs are going to shake a lot of people up, but the rewards are going to be great for those that stick with it the entire time.


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KEYWORDS: economy; gold; goldcharts; goldminicrash; minigoldcrash; recession; recovery
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1 posted on 04/17/2013 7:56:19 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Gold has collapsed before. Now that everybody and his brother is selling gold on the radio it was bound to get overpriced and, like all bubbles, burst.

You have two things going on here; real value, and hyped value.

Gold is certainly a good hedge against catastrophe, but the time to buy is not when the price is high.

The time to buy is now or whenever you think the bottom has been reached, but you won't guess right.

2 posted on 04/17/2013 7:59:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: blam

COPPER, he screamed from the rooftops, AGAIN. Forget gold, it is copper that tells the story.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=219866&findnew#new


3 posted on 04/17/2013 8:01:12 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: blam

I have to suspect there are an awful lot of people right now looking for that perfect moment to buy gold before it starts going up again.

If not then people are screwed.


4 posted on 04/17/2013 8:02:13 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’ve read that it is a very, very small portion of the public that owns gold.

I observe that the demand for physical gold is strong and rising worldwide - including by Central Banks.

I am taking this as the next big opportunity to by another tranche - overseas.


5 posted on 04/17/2013 8:02:19 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

And OIL.

/CL and /HG


6 posted on 04/17/2013 8:02:45 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: blam

If you look closely, you’ll discover the article was actually written by Chicken Little.


7 posted on 04/17/2013 8:03:41 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
"COPPER, he screamed from the rooftops, AGAIN. Forget gold, it is copper that tells the story."

True!

Posted earlier:

WAKE UP! (Dr Copper - Congress Re-approves Insider Trading For Themselves)

8 posted on 04/17/2013 8:06:37 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

More than 500 tons of paper gold were dumped into the market last Friday. The speculation is that a London trading house couldn’t cover their shorts. The story is here:

The price of gold has been manipulated. This is more scandalous than Libor

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/thomaspascoe/100018574/the-price-of-gold-has-been-manipulated-this-is-more-scandalous-than-libor/


9 posted on 04/17/2013 8:06:42 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Losing 20-30-50% of your money in gold (or anything else) sucks. But it doesn’t suck as much as it might have 45 days or so ago wrt Cyprus, when compared to having 20-30-50% of your money confiscated by the government. Now that the John Corzine model of sovereign banking has been perfected.


10 posted on 04/17/2013 8:07:25 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: blam

Keep in mind governments and some banks around the globe have been buying and hoarding gold. They are likely pulling this string.

Very significant demand is being seen throughout the world for physical bullion – in Japan, India, Australia, the U.S., Europe and elsewhere. The speculative raid by one or two banks which led to the price crash is being seen as a gift by eager buyers internationally. http://www.fxstreet.com/fundamental/analysis-reports/gold-investments-market-update/2013/04/17/


11 posted on 04/17/2013 8:08:04 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: blam

Manipulating a major market to make a huge profit can not happen!/s


12 posted on 04/17/2013 8:10:13 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: blam
Buy PHYSICAL Gold. NOW: The Discount of a Lifetime: Or Why You Must Abandon the Fake Paper Gold Market

If you haven't been doing it already, it's time to steer your own course through this pile up, using logic and common sense.

13 posted on 04/17/2013 8:11:33 AM PDT by Errant
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I agree. I have bought some this week, and; I try to add in some MS 61-62 pre 1933 Double Eagles. However, I am not big on collecting like I was many years ago. Coins or bars that are worth spot or close to spot are a hedge against this Fed Chairman, who prints dollars like water.


14 posted on 04/17/2013 8:16:23 AM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah, seriously. Does anyone know how to read a chart anymore? A blind man could have seen this coming.


15 posted on 04/17/2013 8:16:44 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
...I observe that the demand for physical gold is strong and rising worldwide - including by Central Banks...

Kitco has gold selling for $1,387.20 --down 13% from last week-- and the IMF lists total central bank holdings at 879M oz., no change from what it was in 2005.

16 posted on 04/17/2013 8:20:58 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: blam

What “collapse”? Gold sat between 1600 and 1700 for months. It could not get any higher because money was flowing into the surging bull market. It was ripe for a big trade reaction, and that’s exactly what happened. Yawn.


17 posted on 04/17/2013 8:21:25 AM PDT by montag813
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I agree with you but I just saw this: Cramer: Gold Bulls May Have the Last Laugh http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cramer-gold-bulls-last-laugh-115428783.html
Usually whatever Cramer says the opposite is true.


18 posted on 04/17/2013 8:22:55 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
Usually whatever Cramer says the opposite is true.

Empirical evidence would confirm that.

19 posted on 04/17/2013 8:24:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: blam

No.


20 posted on 04/17/2013 8:25:43 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I tend to agree, especially if you want to get a handle on the Chinese economy. They are slowing down, we are slow, Europe is the dog’s breakfast. The economy I believe will track very well with what copper does.


21 posted on 04/17/2013 8:27:15 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: blam

Gist here appears to be that Helicopter Ben is “Quantitatively Easing” (loose metaphor but it works) Gold down. Could be.


22 posted on 04/17/2013 8:29:00 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Free Vulcan

The Chinese have badly exacerbated the copper situation, and I believe copper could lose $3. (VERY bad for BHP, FCX)

They have stockpiled copper in vast qtys to front run the “infinite” demand, SOME Chinese have borrowed money against same, and some have used copper as a way to get money out of their banking system. I don’t think this is one day or 30 days in the life of copper.

I pulled 200+ lbs of Cu out of the house I remodeled last year. I was a dope not to sell it.


23 posted on 04/17/2013 8:32:53 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: blam

Commodity price manipulation is easy for new world order, as is news media manipulation.

Imagine that your net worth is several billion dollars and you have dozens of billionaire friends and you own or control the boards of hundreds of companies, especially in finance, raw materials, manufacturing, food, construction, chemicals, power generation, media, sovereign debt, defense, etc.,...

Not to mention you have billions worth of stocks that you’ve placed inside tax-exempt foundations that you control, that “advise” universities, government policy (of various governments) and any “global grassroots movements” that you wish to start, “spontaneously”...

What possibilities...


24 posted on 04/17/2013 8:36:09 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Free Vulcan

“Europe is the dog’s breakfast.”

before or after he ate it?


25 posted on 04/17/2013 8:49:40 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: expat_panama

IMF??

Read this. Google has much more.

http://qz.com/74459/why-central-banks-have-been-hoarding-gold-since-2009/


26 posted on 04/17/2013 8:50:22 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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27 posted on 04/17/2013 8:50:52 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: expat_panama

http://www.ibtimes.com/central-banks-accelerated-gold-buying-2012-protect-against-global-economic-turmoil-976670


28 posted on 04/17/2013 8:52:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
"The Chinese have badly exacerbated the copper situation, and I believe copper could lose $3."

Copper is at 3.20 now. Do you really think it can lose $3 and go down to 20 cents? (Honest question, not being a wise guy)

29 posted on 04/17/2013 9:00:47 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

Godzilla is just after the copper lines. Duh he is a scrapper.


30 posted on 04/17/2013 9:02:25 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

By looking at things, I’m thinking the latter.


31 posted on 04/17/2013 9:02:52 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: jimpick

When he finds out that copper is dropping in price he’s going to get REALLY mad.


32 posted on 04/17/2013 9:03:55 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=219866&findnew#new

Better technical explanation than I can furnish. It’s headed there, whether it breaks $3, dunno.

What could take it there? There is a tremendous amount of NON-recognition of the financial condition of the world and an overestimation, IMO, of the world’s growth prospects. I also believe there is a lot of oversupply. Technically, the channel break is ominous.


33 posted on 04/17/2013 9:04:22 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: blam

OK folks, tell me, are there any safe havens to put one’s money in?

Stock Market? CRASHING.

Bank Deposits? Yielding nothing ( and inflation eats up your savings ).

Money Markets? The same.

Gold and Silver? See Stock Market above.

Treasuries? See US Debt and Bernanke QE1 2 and 3.

Housing? (Well that’s the only one that seems to be recovering, but Obama again wants banks and the FHA to provide loans for those who can’t afford to buy homes ).

Mattress? (See Bank Deposits ).

So where to go?


34 posted on 04/17/2013 9:07:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: blam

“Is The Takedown Of Gold A Sign That The Entire Global Financial System Is About To Crash?”

I’m entirely ready to test the “reset” button at this point. We know it’s coming, let’s get it over with.


35 posted on 04/17/2013 9:10:09 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: SeekAndFind

NWO knows some simple basics that they take great care to exclude from public school curricula.

One is “possession is 9/10ths of the law”.

If you own a local business, that gives you much better possession than having the assets you own in a government-regulated account for which you receive a monthly statement of your ownership position.

One day you can get a statement that simply notifies you that your assets have been confiscated.


36 posted on 04/17/2013 9:14:52 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: blam
Is The Takedown Of Gold A Sign That The Entire Global Financial System Is About To Crash?

No, it means that all the people who are foolish enough to buy gold as an investment have already brought all of the gold that they want or can afford to buy and there are not enough "greater fools" out there to pump the demand that is needed to support the price.

37 posted on 04/17/2013 9:20:34 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: blam

This is only a temporary decline. We are closer to the SHTF in a global way than we’ve ever been before and there’s no one with sanity in a position to stop it.


38 posted on 04/17/2013 9:47:39 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: chuckles; Diana in Wisconsin; Boogieman; BipolarBob; yldstrk; nodakkid; Aquamarine; BenLurkin; ...

ping


39 posted on 04/17/2013 9:48:22 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Copper, forget that I am investing in Nicken and hydrogen and making energy and selling copper....

E-Cat joke...


40 posted on 04/17/2013 9:51:39 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Labyrinthos
No, it means that all the people who are foolish enough to buy gold as an investment have already brought all of the gold that they want or can afford to buy and there are not enough "greater fools" out there to pump the demand that is needed to support the price.

Those 'greater fools' are standing in line to buy ammo.

41 posted on 04/17/2013 9:59:14 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: dennisw; PieterCasparzen; All
Thanks for the ping to this very good thread.

One is “possession is 9/10ths of the law”.

Possession is 10/10ths in a lawless environment...and the ability to defend it BUMP!

42 posted on 04/17/2013 10:15:39 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Labyrinthos

“No, it means that all the people who are foolish enough to buy gold as an investment have already brought all of the gold that they want or can afford to buy and there are not enough “greater fools” out there to pump the demand that is needed to support the price.”

I see. And what are the enlightened buying these days for an investment?


43 posted on 04/17/2013 10:20:14 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Keep your eyes on Jesus. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Will Silver Price Keep Falling?
44 posted on 04/17/2013 10:40:03 AM PDT by blam
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
by expat_panama    the IMF lists total central bank holdings at 879M oz., no change from what it was in 2005.

by aMorePerfectUnion    IMF?? Read this. Google has much more.  http://qz.com/74459/why-central-banks-have-been-hoarding-gold-since-2009/

Our numbers are the same here, qz.com cites gold.org which bases their info on imf.org.  Here's the qz.com grapic--

--showing IMF stats on how from 2005 to 2009 central banks sold about a thousand tons of gold which they bought back since.  Those sales and purchases (a couple percent--

--per year) have had negligible affect on gold's market price.  Consider how they're buying less than a fifth of new mined gold hitting the market and how gold's price soared while central banks sold, and and how the price is tanking now while the banks are buying.

45 posted on 04/17/2013 10:41:43 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: MichaelCorleone

The enlightened are not buying, but selling what we already brought at fire sale prices back in 2008 - 2009 when the foolish investors were bailing out of the market as it approached the cyclical bear market low.


46 posted on 04/17/2013 10:45:05 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: blam

There’s a run on the LBMA.

Holders of Gold in the LBMA system were *extremely alarmed* by the AMRO default and the Cyprus confiscations. They drew the appropriate conclusion - which is “If you don’t hold it, you don’t own it”. They’re trying to take delivery of their Gold.

And their Gold either doesn’t exist, or it’s been hypothecated and has multiple owners.

The result was this orchestrated takedown. Five hundred tons of fake, not-real, naked-short, birdcage-liner IOU ‘Gold’ was sold on Friday - about 150 tons of it in the space of one hour.

This drop in Gold wasn’t due to a ‘confluence of factors’. That’s just MSM shill-talk.

This was a raid. It was a paper-intervention to shove the price of Gold (and Silver) way, way down.

The bullion banks in the LBMA are desperate. They need to shake metal out of weak hands, and they need to do it now.

The only sensible reaction is to do what the Indians are doing - back up the truck and buy physical precious metals. Just remember to store them outside of the banking system.


47 posted on 04/17/2013 10:48:34 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: blam

The price of gold and silver in dollars swing. The value of gold and silver does not swing wildly. Maybe we should chart the price of dollars in grams of gold and silver.


48 posted on 04/17/2013 10:51:08 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: blam; dennisw

“If any of the allegations above are even remotely true, then a whole lot of people need to be criminally investigated.”

Yep. Sure. That’ll happen...


49 posted on 04/17/2013 12:10:34 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Cramer basically ran a boiler room operation. How does that orangatang have enough credibility to be on Bloomberg?
50 posted on 04/17/2013 12:42:27 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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