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Posted on 04/14/2013 1:34:09 PM PDT by kas7351
I just watched the local news here in Tampa. They had a segment stating that we have a shortage of workers to work the farms. They interviewed the owner of a strawberry farm and he mentioned that due to the shortage of immigrants being allowed to enter this country, he doesn't have enough workers.
Guess the people on unemployment or that have dropped out of the workforce are too good to pick strawberries? Guess they would rather get the handouts!
This title is repulsive, It is wrong to degrade short farm workers.
There are only some 30 or 40 million illegals in this country. Maybe we should start rounding them up and giving them a choice.
Last summer we had to give legitimate “migrant” workers welfare because of the drought. This year the fruit growers say they need more because they can’t get the migrants from last year to come back.
Just pay a little more, contact the unemployment offices and bus out the poor from the cities
I think we should round them up also and also to give those assignments to the people who have been on unemployment for longer than 8 weeks. Why should we pay them for 99 weeks to sit at home when there is plenty of work out there?
Prison inmates would work just fine too.
Something is wrong here, we have increasing unemployment while at the same time we have increasing lack of farmworkers.
I know a strawberry farmer, he also gives them a place to live when they work for him. This could even help for the homeless..
My brother-in-law is in construction. He is a feisty conservative, hired only citizens UNTIL he totally got fed up with the low-life, lazy laborers he was getting. Started hiring immigrants because they worked hard and had a good work ethic. I don’t think I’d hire urban welfare folks to work my orchards.
your brother-in-law is a huge part of the immigration problem.
It takes a certain kind of person to do that work. I did farmwork as a teenager but I’d end up dead in the field if I tried it today.
If you intend to employ adults with families and homes, you’re going to have to pay far more than welfare or unemployment.
We’ve always had a sizable migrant labor force on the farms but they are evaporating as it becomes ever easier for them to collect benefits.
I drive by a lot of construction in my neighborhood all the time, you are correct about the migrant workers... I don’t think I remember seeing anything but Hispanics.
It is truly a shame of the entitlement that the Americans think they are entitled to. Sickens me for sure...
maybe he should try hiring some Americans
Insert excuse here.
A while back was a consultant on a large CA commercial construction project. There were crews working that spoke six different languages. Generally only the super spoke English, and he not too well.
Not surprising they had the problems I was there to address. It was a regular Tower of Babel.
Got a match?
Guess you’re just fine with the entitlement employers though.
How can it be easier for them to collect benefits?
In some industries, those who hire illegal aliens can significantly undercut those who insist on hiring legal immigrants or Americans.
So the second group has a choice, they can hire illegals in order to compete, or they can lose all their business to the first group and go broke.
Individual business owners who do what they have to do to survive are not necessarily the villains of the piece. How exactly does their going out of business in favor of the other guy help the situation?
The answer is not to demonize those who adapt to what the market demands, but rather to enforce the laws so as to remove the competitive advantage of those who break them.
Sheriff Arapio would have to come to Florida and then maybe this would be possible.
Growing up in Central Florida we’d get up at midnight during a frost to set smudge pots. In the Spring we would pick fruit on the weekends and after school. Worked 12 hour shifts during the fruit “run” too. People don’t do this work to raise families (some get stuck) but you use it as a building block. This article may have merit, but how low has our work ethic become? My daughter is 17 and works at a Pizza Hut. So what? She’s not going to make a career out of it!
Around here we still have teenagers doing a lot of the farm work. I talked to a kid at the party store who just came in from the field where he was picking rocks.
He said he gets $10 per hour under the table. Not too shabby. I made $5 back in the 80s.
I tell you what,those Mexican roofers can get that old roof off and a new one on in record time. When you have the fat white guys do it, it takes for frickin ever.
I got a painting bid from somebody who was from somewhere in SA and I got one from an overfed white guy and the foreign guy was 2K under the other one, got in here and got that wall paper off and the walls painted in record time. Worked from 8 am to 6 pm every night.
I have more house than energy, so when it gets really dusty I will call a cleaning service. 25 years ago it was black ladies who resented me for hiring them. These days it is Mexican ladies who can clean like nobody’s business.
So, if they have a good work ethic I am all over it.
The Wet backs get benifits now and do not wanna work!
They live 5 families to a house and combine all income!
Uncle Sam pays them to stay home.
“ We don’t need no stinkin strawberries!”
Our generation coddled our offspring and declared them to be too good for physical labor. (Not you or I personally but you get the point)
Sherrif Joe would use his prisoners. Of course, that would be demeaning for the obama crowd.
Deportation breaks apart families in Ohio, across nation (Freepers in thread demand that American citizen and veteran of Afghanistan War leave for Mexico)
I worked at an orange packing house one Christmas vacation in the early 70s. This was Polk County, FL. I was on what they called “set off” which was grabbing boxes of oranges off the belt and stacking them so they could be grabbed by the fork lift and moved into trailers or box cars.
It was hard work and I was talking to the guys who I worked with. I asked why they didn’t pick oranges. Was it harder work? The answer was no it was easier. Do you make less? No you make more picking.
Then why do you work here. All the people in the packing house were locals. Their only answer was “it is inside work”.
I think there was literally a dividing line. The locals did inside work and the migrants did outside labor.
With 20-odd million illegals in the country it would appear they also think they are too good to pick strawberries.
Ain’t we something special?...?..??? We should have inside work.
Unfortunately, I don’t think prison rules allow second shifts so they would need to leave in the middle of the afternoon unless they are on work release and that is not technically a prisoner. A six-month work visa would also greatly benefit immigrants who pick crops in fields, as they could come to America during the harvest seasons. I thought there was already a program like that in place actually.
Interesting comments. Not.
You didn’t address my point that market forces mean an employer, in many cases, either uses illegals or goes out of business.
I have no idea what you are saying or maybe implying.
Maybe I just didn’t understand or maybe you didn’t explain it very well.
The situation has to do with pay - and it always has... Farmers, assembly line factory owners, contruction owners - only want to pay the WAGE BUSTING price created by hiring illegal aliens. It has been proven time and again - if the pay is enough for an American to live a 1st. World lifestyle instead of 6 families to a house 3rd. World style then American workers will take the jobs... Every other excuse is a lie ...
Or can’t get them to come off welfare.
Colorado gives $2B to illegal immigrants but blackmails schools into forcing parents to work in school.
Just that the American worker today thinks that they should be treated and entitled to more. I grew up with the fundamentals of doing whatever it takes or am asked to do especially since I was being paid to do a job.
Nothing directed to you personally!
Here in CA where we have millions I've seen all kinds of migrant labor, from busy and quality minded (increasingly rare) to lazy, inexperienced and dishonest. There is no one word to characterize them.
I bet you’ve never seen the results of that yourself. Painters Poultry would get a bus load of urban blacks and haul them to the chicken house about 4AM. Within minutes of starting work, they all would be outside complaining of the smell. That would leave whites and Mexicans to do all the work. I personally know they perform badly milking cows, picking vegetables, etc. It wasn’t ability but attitude.
Can you say Chain Gang!
Around here local kids do work on the farms but they aren’t big factory farms.
Good American blue collar and farm workers cannot compete because they want a lifestyle similar to all the rest of us. But with unlimited illegal aliens flooding the country - undercutting the wage base - then jobs for Americans disappear. I can tell that some posters just do not get it ... Illegal aliens live 3-4-5 families to a household - even with low wages they can live just fine this way. Especially when the women go to the welfare, food stamps, and health clinics and LIE on the applications saying that they are not married and that there is no wage earner in her household. Then they go apply under a false name and get some of the same benefits. So the next time some of you guys want to make excuses then remember you are approving a system that shuts out good Americans from earning a living wage. Do you want live 3-4-5 families to a household or you want that for your nephew or neice ? Ten years ago bricklayer wages and meat cutter packing plant wages dropped from around $18.00 an hour to $8.00. Is this what you want for America?
I have noticed the crime rates have already started to soar and we are not even to the point that you are talking about. Unfortunately it looks like there will be no stopping this from happening.
If you havent been out into the rural areas of the U.S. lately, youll be surprised to find how much theyve changed in the last twenty years. Where you once found trailer parks and shanty towns where poor whites and blacks lived and toiled in the surrounding fields, hog/chicken farms, and meat processing plants, youll now find those trailer parks and shanty towns filled with illegal Mexicans who now work these fields, and youll ask yourself, “Is this an American success story? Are these poor blacks and whites who no longer toil in the fields now living the American dream?” Where are these poor blacks and whites now living and what are they now doing for a living?” Have they learned skills that will now sustain themselves and their families?”
For the most part, these poor blacks and whites moved to the cities, are now living in government housing, and are spending their welfare checks on the drugs that illegal Mexicans bring into this country. And theyll live happily ever after only as long as they vote Democrat and you and I continue to work and pay taxes.
Thankfully, we have around to denigrate those who are down on their luck.
Maybe you could walk around with a sandwich sign raising awareness for the down trodden as to how they can imrpove thier lives, right now.
No, skip that. Better idea:
You could star in your very own infomercial and bring joyful tears to their faces for finding you and learning the the mysteries of life.
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