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Is Windows 8 Killing PC Sales? Read The Fine Print: The Report Of Windows' Death Was An Exaggeration
Forbes ^ | 04/12/2013 | David K. Johnson

Posted on 04/14/2013 5:33:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

On May 5, 1907, The New York Times published a column written that same morning by Mark Twain on the news of his death the day before. “You can assure my Virginia friends,” said Twain, “that I will make an exhaustive investigation of this report that I have been lost at sea. If there is any foundation for the report, I will at once apprise the anxious public.” The event led to the oft-misquoted phrase: “The report of my death was an exaggeration.”

Everyone it seems, loves a good untimely death

So much so, the Wikipedia maintains a list of 219 famous erroneous death reports. Paul McCartney was reported dead on a radio show in 1966, with fans convinced he’d been replaced by an impostor. Pope John Paul II is on the list with the distinction of being the only known triple recipient of early death news reports. And the US House of Representatives cemented its reputation as the best comedy show in town when news of Bob Hope’s death was reported on the floor and broadcast on C-SPAN…five years too early. And so it goes with taking news at face value.

Even me

I guess I’m no different in proffering bold headlines of untimely deaths, but I do think it’s important not to take any data at face value. This week, the newswires are blazing with the news that PC shipments dropped 14% year-over-year. You’d think the zombie apocalypse was upon us (yes, there’s a list of false apocalypses too). But when I look at the fine print, I draw a different conclusion. Note that tablets – including the ones with detachable keyboards – are *not* included in the PC shipments figure.

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To: Incorrigible
In Windows 8 on a desktop, you can avoid the Start Screen by pinning your most used applications to the Task Bar.

Like I do now in Windows 7. Every live person I've talked to with Windows 8 hates it.

41 posted on 04/14/2013 8:00:49 AM PDT by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: adorno

“Change is difficult for people, even if the change actually makes things a lot simpler than before the change.”

It’s a lot like when cup holders first started coming in pickups . What do you need that for? I can hold my beer between my legs. Now I wouldn’t be caught without one. Change is inevitable.


42 posted on 04/14/2013 8:03:57 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tablets are a real convenience and you can’t take that away from them. But when it comes to productivity imo nothing will replace the desk top or lap top.

I have all three but this 10 year old Inspiron 1150 running XP captures the majority of my browsing time even though it’s probably the less efficient device I have...it’s just an enjoyable experience out here on the porch with it.


43 posted on 04/14/2013 8:04:41 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: aimhigh

The Amazon Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD utilizes a heavily customized version of Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich OS.


44 posted on 04/14/2013 8:08:22 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

“It’s a lot like when cup holders first started coming in pickups . What do you need that for? I can hold my beer between my legs. Now I wouldn’t be caught without one. Change is inevitable.”

Nice try...there are pages and pages (probably thousands of pages) of complaints about Windows 8, but find me a complaint about the presence of cup holders in a car.

Change DOES NOT have to tolerated. From what I see on this site, people are nowhere close to TOLERATING a change in our gun laws or immigration laws. So how would you react if I told to you suck it up on Amnesty and Gun Control, don’t even fight it, because “change is inevitable”?


45 posted on 04/14/2013 8:11:23 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: adorno
Absolutely. My laptops dual boot Windoze and Linux (and at a time played hackintosh) but if I had a Macbook it would still get Win & Linux installed. Fact is I use Linux most of the time, it works very well for everything except some work apps out in Citrix land. They have been ported to OS-X and iOS but Linux and Android are out for the time being.

Microsoft's target is, I think, a form factor which appeals to me. A lightweight notebook which can function as a tablet with real computer horsepower and storage. When it matures somewhat (meaning better and less expensive) I'll buy it.

46 posted on 04/14/2013 8:15:59 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: BobL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE7sKCBmSI4&feature=youtube_gdata_player


47 posted on 04/14/2013 8:26:32 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: Caipirabob

I got a good deal on a Windows 8 PC. I absolutely hated Windows 8 and got rid of the PC. Windows 8 really really sucks on a desktop computer. Might be OK for a tablet or a pad but it is useless on a desktop.


48 posted on 04/14/2013 8:30:13 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

“but find me a complaint about the presence of cup holders in a car.”

Nice try again, but note the term PRESENCE above. I pick my words carefully...she’s not complaining about the presence of cup holders, she’s complaining about the crappy UAW-made cup holders in her vehicle.

(by the way, is she available?)


49 posted on 04/14/2013 8:30:41 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: SeekAndFind

For simmers (such as myself) and gamers, nothing can replace a desktop system. I run FSX and Train Simulator 2013 on a 3-monitor system. Can’t do that with a tablet.


50 posted on 04/14/2013 8:32:15 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: BobL

LOL, the passenger seat was empty.


51 posted on 04/14/2013 8:33:31 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: BobL
The sales results show that MS screwed up, and BIG TIME. I know that MS works for both, so why didn’t they configure it based on the platform, brain child?

Sales might be lackluster, but, the design of the OS wasn't something that people would immediately fall in love with. But, functionally, there is none better, no matter you use or prefer right now.

Win 8 RT is the ARM version of Windows 8, and, it hasn't had great sales numbers, but, as far as its capabilities and the included software, and what can be done with RT tablets and the Win8 RT OS, no other platform can even compare; not iPads and not Android tablets.

ON the Windows 8 x32/x64 platform, the OS works even better than Windows 7, and it also works quite well for the tablet-PC form-factor.

The problem for Microsoft is that, the economic factors right now won't have people going out to spend some $700+ on a PC, no matter how much power or better it might be than the competition. Plus, why spend on a new PC when what is already sitting at home with Windows 7 is more than adequate for the next few years.

Ballmer himself stated, before MS undertook writing of Windows 8, that, it would be the riskiest OS rewrite in MS's history, and he and Microsoft knew that, it wasn't going to be easy to steer people away from the traditional look of desktop/laptop OSes.

Even I was skeptical about Windows 8, but, once I started playing with it, I saw the reason and benefits to why it had to be written the way it was. Looking back at how the user computer UIs, I've become convinced that, the Windows 8 UI is the way it should've been all along. The only problem is that, touch devices weren't as prevalent with earlier PCs, so, the traditional PC UI stuck with people. I cannot see going back to Windows 7 or any other user interface. Windows 8 is "genius", even if the sales don't agree with my assessment.

Configuring for one platform would have been a huge mistake, since MS wanted to keep its traditional desktop/laptop lead, and also wanted to gain a foothold in the tablet arena. They've designed an ecosystem which works well with all form-factors, including the cloud, and tablets and desktops/laptops.

But, with the economic conditions of today, it's going to take MS a longer time to get people interested in the new OS and their new devices. But, like they did with XBox and with the original Windows, they will overcome the initial resistance, and will become the major player in all form-factors.
52 posted on 04/14/2013 8:46:10 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: varmintman

Well, touch tech PCs have been around since at least 2004, the tech has been greatly improved and they work pretty well.

Win 8 was designed for the touch tech PC and works well with it.

Don’t worry about having to be idiotic and use one. The move to touch tech is still in the early stages and you’ve got a few years left on the mouse. Of course by then technology will be moving into PCs in your eyewear (which is already out there) so you’ll have to figure out how to train your eyeballs to move the mouse.


53 posted on 04/14/2013 8:58:21 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: varmintman
Windows 8 is Millennium II on steroids and crack. I hate everything about Win 8.
54 posted on 04/14/2013 9:02:47 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: RJS1950

I wonder if Leap Motion’s new device will be a good pairing with Windows 8.
https://www.leapmotion.com/


55 posted on 04/14/2013 9:05:35 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: adorno

New Coke died with the same arguments... Win 9 will remedy this.

LLS


56 posted on 04/14/2013 9:09:13 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Will88

On a desktop with Win 8, Pokki is very handy. It give you the “start” button they got rid of and makes it easy to navigate just like in Win 7. When you are using Win 8 with a tablet, you don’t need that. I’m not a fan of the tiles on a desktop PC. But it is good to have an OS that works for both desktop and tablets, so you can use your apps on either. That is a drawback to iPads and OSX.


57 posted on 04/14/2013 9:13:57 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: CommieCutter

We have a bunch of broken Macs in the storeroom. They fall apart just as fast as a PC.


58 posted on 04/14/2013 9:16:12 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

It probably could be but I don’t know a lot about how the non-touch motion sensing qualities of the device are implemented.

The Leap Motion device seems to be taking touch tech to higher levels from the Kinect technology that MS developed. Neat stuff though.


59 posted on 04/14/2013 9:21:31 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: oh8eleven

What monopoly/oligopoly free zone do you live in,


60 posted on 04/14/2013 9:29:39 AM PDT by SengirV
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